Split! Babies and Baby names...and stuff...

[AlohaDawg]

I never heard any of this stuff during our first pregnancy nor this far in our second. This is starting to support my previously unscientifically founded beliefs about the deep south.

Your attitudes toward the deep south are probably justified, however the kind of goofy magical thinking such as I described above is extremely widespread.  I've been spending an unfortunate amount of time on the boards for a pregnancy site and the items I cited above are some of the least-stupid things that some of these cows believe.

No doubt posted from AOL and WebTV accounts. Most everyone's allowed to fuck in this great country of ours. Damn shame, too, sometimes.

[Choop]

Hey, man, Fuckin' ain't the problem. It's Fuckin' Irresponsibly that's the problem.

Condoms, the pill, sex-ed, RU-486, they're all around and most are available to anybody.

Fuckin' Irresponsibly and Abstinence Education tied to The Moral Statutes of Religions are the main causes of the Stupid People of America getting pregnant.

When will they learn. When.

[AlohaDawg]

There are a couple of college-trained public health types here in the office and we were just talking yesterday about Abstinence Education. Having both worked in STD, we're still appalled at the amount of money, including Federal money that goes to making films and developing programs to celebrate abstinence. It's asinine.

I'm not anti-Catholic but in this topic I've got to say that they are so far out of step that it's causing more harm than good.

[wombat]

Trying to talk living beings into not having sex is like trying to talk them into giving up eating.  How can you have such a fundamental misunderstanding of how nature works?  None of us would be here today if our ancestors hadn't wanted to have sex, and passed on those sex-liking genes.  The urge that gets the species to perpetuate itself will win out over any amount of federal dollars.

Wait, maybe now I get it.  They don't get it about abstinence because they don't believe in evolution either?

[CortJstr]

Every sprem is sacred, every sperm is good!

[V-Adore]

See, I don't tend to blame the Church for this becamse, dogma be damned, I know a lot of Catholics who accept the entire "condoms are a good thing" idea. Hell, I'm dating one.

Besides, to paraphrase from an old editorial: given the number of families these days who are coming to Catholic services with two kids in tow, either the rhythm method works much better than assumed, or people are being reasonable about this.

[CortJstr]

Besides, to paraphrase from an old editorial: given the number of families these days who are coming to Catholic services with two kids in tow, either the rhythm method works much better than assumed, or people are being reasonable about this.

You've never been to my church. The average age is 7. I'm not kidding. Most of the families has 4 or 5 kids all under 10. Apparently the concept of zero population growth is lost on these people.

[AlohaDawg]

See, I don't tend to blame the Church for this becamse, dogma be damned, I know a lot of Catholics who accept the entire "condoms are a good thing" idea. Hell, I'm dating one.

Besides, to paraphrase from an old editorial: given the number of families these days who are coming to Catholic services with two kids in tow, either the rhythm method works much better than assumed, or people are being reasonable about this.

Look at the average age of the true decision makers of the Church - do you really think a group of lifetime abstinent, 60+ year old men are going to suddenly have an epiphany about birth control? Better yet, are they going to name among their successors people who don't think the way they do?

C'mon, this is a Church that revoked the first communion of a little girl with Celiac disease because the wafer the priest subsituted for the usual Host was rice and did not contain any wheat, which her body won't tolerate. Dogma is a poor substitute for understanding.

[Choop]

Dogma is a poor substitute for understanding.

HERE HERE

or is it

HEAR HEAR

or some other combination thereof? anyway, I totally agree.

In terms of belief systems, karma trumps dogma anyday.