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« on: December 02, 2004, 12:19:26 PM »

pat, you're a dick.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2004, 12:28:13 PM »

A racist dick no less.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2004, 01:18:43 PM »

What's racist about his comment? It may be accurate or inaccurate; to tell you the truth I've never paid attention to Mexicans and their cars. But how is the comment racist?
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2004, 01:30:52 PM »

Don't pick on me you nazi!
It just seems like the sort of thing a closeted-racist would say as a means of justifying their inherent bigotry and small-mindedness.
Hey, if you wanna back up Pat and his cavalcade of ignorance please, be my guest, but just don't expect me to sew your white sheets together or to tie your nooses for the next coon-lynchin'.


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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2004, 01:40:40 PM »

I think the "don't you lie to me" is what confirmed Pat's identity.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2004, 02:00:17 PM »

I've never had issues with Mexicans taking too long to get in their cars.  However, I used to live next to a Salvadorean neighborhood.  Sometimes I drove through it in the mornings, on a street with garden apartment buildings, and head-in parking on both sides of the street.  ALWAYS and without fail, those stopping to pick up others would double-park and block traffic, rather than pull into a space, even when half the spaces were empty.  I have always wondered what the hell was up with that.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2004, 03:12:21 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2004, 04:08:39 PM »

All my friends know the low rider.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2004, 04:28:38 PM »

A lowrider gets a little higher.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2004, 04:29:04 PM »

And Zartan returns on his postiversary.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2004, 04:49:55 PM »

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What's racist about his comment? It may be accurate or inaccurate; to tell you the truth I've never paid attention to Mexicans and their cars. But how is the comment racist?


It's racist in that it seems to be "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race or color is superior."  I don't know what Pat's race is, but if he's not Mexican and just being ironic, I'd say it was pretty racist.  Really, are you a closet racist?  "No, I just tell it like is."  I imagine that's how Pat would respond to such a question.  The real idea behind Pat's comment is that Mexicans are lazy.  You really don't see that as racist?
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2004, 04:53:03 PM »

I'm suddenly picturing "The More You Know" segment from Family Guy. "What? Canada sucks."
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2004, 06:06:44 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2004, 06:25:08 PM »

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Quote from: "foolio"
What's racist about his comment? It may be accurate or inaccurate; to tell you the truth I've never paid attention to Mexicans and their cars. But how is the comment racist?


It's racist in that it seems to be "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race or color is superior."  I don't know what Pat's race is, but if he's not Mexican and just being ironic, I'd say it was pretty racist.  Really, are you a closet racist?  "No, I just tell it like is."  I imagine that's how Pat would respond to such a question.  The real idea behind Pat's comment is that Mexicans are lazy.  You really don't see that as racist?


is "mexican" meant racially or culturally.

perhaps pat is a "culturalist" rather than a "racist".

also,
i would posit that from what little i've seen of pat's thoughts etc that he would not be of the belief that his race or demographic is superior to any other, but that _he_ himself is superior to any other personage, singular or of a group.

as such, is one who feels singularly and individually superior to each and every single other entity a racist or simply an extreme egotist?

it would seem to me that racism is a crutch used to prop up one self's poor individual self concept on the notion that while individually the person may not be worth shit but that as a member of a superior race that they therefor are superior.

pat does not, to the extent that i have seen, seem to have any problems with a poor self-concept.

on the other hand, his self-righteousness may very well stem from a belief  in his own racial superiority.

to wander further from pat, however:

as i understand it, racism is "bad".  ie, to make a determination as to an individual based upon raciallity.

is "culturalism" bad, then?  

to make the statement that "members of the mexican race take too long to get out of cars" is intrinsically racist since the maker of the statement is assuming that the consequences of the individual stem from raciallity.

to make the statement that "members of the mexican culture take too long to get out of cars" is not racist, though, it is culturist.

it is a mistake to consider that race is determing factor in individuals.

is it a mistake to consider that culture is a determining factor in individuals?

to wander back to pat:

a joke:

pat is such an asshole.

how much of an asshole is pat?

pat's such an asshole that he shoots someone, runs away, hides, and then calls into a radio show to make a broad statement about a large collection of demographically aligned people because he was, possibly, inconvenienced by one member of said group while trying to get away from the crime scene.

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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2004, 06:31:58 PM »

Slink, Brat owners - for some crazy reason - seem to prefer raise their Brats up off the ground on big ol' monster wheels. (This authoritative-sounding generalization brought to you by three minutes of ham-fisted Google searching.) I don't know why - lowriding around in a Brat would be awesome, especially if it had those seats in the back actually facing backwards.

Speaking of generalizations and racism and such - I think a lot of people make racist comments when they actually intend to malign a particular culture. The way I understand it, anyway - when Pat (for example) says that Mexicans take forever to do things with their cars, I doubt he believes that they're genetically predisposed to this behavior. The human genome is a marvelous and mysterious thing, but that is getting fuck*ng specific.

EDIT: In the time I took putting in all those fuck*ng italics, arkabee basically beats me to the punch. Nicely done.
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