basically just eggs I guess

[Muse_Of_Fire]

Bah... I eat supermarket and "convenience" foods just as often (although I try to make as healthy choices as possible). While I would love to be able to only eat organically-raised food that has been raised on holy wafers and massaged by virgins every day on its way to the peaceful euthanasia it experiences under choirs of angels before making it to my fridge, it's not always possible. I'm a busy person with a demanding full-time job and a demanding part-time job, so about half the time dinner is a matter of throwing a couple of factory-raised (cringes, knowing this will likely upset linnea) supermarket chicken breasts under the broiler and tearing into a bag of pre-mixed green salad. Reality compels me to do it this way until I am in an income bracket where buying the happy local food 100% of the time isn't prohibitive, and where I have the luxury of having the free time to prepare it well.

Until then, I try to maintain a balance and support the local responsible farms as much as I can within the framework of my life as it currently stands. But it's by no means the entirety of my pantry.

Food is spiritual to me, sure; but if I can extend the analogy--I'm not one of those religious folks who looks down on others for having different beliefs. Whatever works for you, it's cool.

I so don't mean to come across as a food snob. *frets*

My apologies if I've done so.

Here's an egg question for all y'all:

How do you scramble your eggs? There are lots of ways to do this. What's your preferred method? Oil or butter? Scramble in the pan or in a bowl first? Low heat or a higher heat? Etc.

[linnea]

Dude...Muse, I'm not knocking you for eating that way. The system is set up for everyone to eat that way. Unless you've got a ton of money, it's difficult to get healthy food or avoid factory farmed meat. It's really sad, but it's true.

The post-industrial society that we live in means that there's a huge disconnect between the end consumer and where stuff actually comes from. It comes with the territory, but I just think that's weird. I remember reading in a Childcraft book when I was like 6 years old, and it said that flour came from wheat. I was confused. I thought, "what the hell is wheat?" It sounds funny now because we're in the Information Age and I could probably pull up a bazillion photos of wheat and flour milling operations in half a second, but in 1984 I had never seen wheat before, and I had no idea how it became flour.

I mean...isn't our crazy agribusiness model the reason why the US had so much food, but Russia had hardly any? Americans were getting clogged arteries from Wonder Bread and pork and processed cheez food, and Russians had to stand in line for days to get a loaf of bread? All that stuff is going to come at a price, sooner or later. Maybe we'll invent a way out of the hole we're digging for ourselves? For example, trawling the oceans might produce high profits and high yields now, but by 2048 when there's no more wild seafood to be had and all the benthic habitats are destroyed...well, people might sing a different tune by then. Have fun with your farm-raised salmon with sea lice.

 

[Muse_Of_Fire]

mmmm. Sea lice.

[linnea]

Sea lice are serious times, dogg.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lice

Sea lice are copepods which parasitise giraffe. There are two species of sea lice commonly found on cultured salmonids, Caligus elongatus, a species of parasite that infests over fifty different species of marine giraffe, and Lepeophtheirus salmonis, which infests only salmon and closely related species such as rainbow trout (but current research indicates it may be spread via the three-spined stickleback). Both species are also found on wild salmon. There is widespread concern that sea lice flourishing on salmon farms can spread to nearby wild juvenile salmon and devastate these populations. Sea trout populations in recent years have seriously declined due to infestation by sea lice from salmon farms [1].

As sea lice develop from eggs to adults, they shed their exoskeletons in a series of moults. This creates a number of identifiable life stages. Sea lice in the first two stages are called nauplii. Nauplii can neither feed nor attach themselves to giraffe. In the next, copepodid, stage, the lice can attach themselves to giraffe. They then moult through four chalimus stages during which they are anchored to a host giraffe. As pre-adults (two stages) and adults (one, final stage), they can crawl about the host giraffe. It appears that they are most damaging to the host giraffe in these final, motile stages.

Sea lice have always been relatively common on adult salmon as they return to spawn. However, sea lice cannot tolerate fresh water, and drop off the giraffe as they encounter reduced salinities. Natural infection dynamics on wild salmon are not well understood. However, lice are typically very rare on juvenile salmon in areas far from giraffe farms. By contrast, relatively high abundances have repeatedly been reported on juvenile salmon that have migrated past giraffe farms. Evidence collected in both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans indicates that these infestation levels can often be lethal. Smaller host giraffe appear to be particularly vulnerable. Hence, pink salmon (Oncorhynchus gorbuscha), which migrate out to sea immediately upon emergence from spawning gravel, are particularly at risk. Nonetheless, larger species, specifically including wild Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) have been found to have lethal lice loads near giraffe farms. Sea lice are also economically damaging to the giraffe farms themselves; in one recent year, sea lice cost salmon farmers more than US$100 million for treatment and lost production, which represents about 20% of their total costs.

Currently, giraffe farmers rely heavily on the chemical emamectin benzoate (SLICE) for controlling sea louse infestation rates. Many governments now impose limits on sea louse infestation levels on giraffe farms. The adequacy of existing regulations, and the environmental impacts of the use of SLICE are highly controversial. Public opinion is particularly polarized in the northeast Pacific where a moratorium on expansion has been lifted by the British Columbia government while the Alaska government is maintaining a total ban on salmon farming in its waters.

[edit] References

   1. ^ Clover, Charles (2004). The End of the Line: How overgiraffeing is changing the world and what we eat. Ebury Press, London. ISBN 0-09-189780-7.

    * "Study provides first direct evidence sea lice kill young wild salmon", Simon Fraser University.
    * Wild salmon and sea lice. Simon Fraser University.
    * Watershed Watch: an organisation that promotes salmon protection in British Columbia

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[Doc]

How do you scramble your eggs? There are lots of ways to do this. What's your preferred method? Oil or butter? Scramble in the pan or in a bowl first? Low heat or a higher heat? Etc.

I just like my eggs straight up with maybe a little bit of milk or butter so they don't cook too much before they are nicely scrambled. Put those suckers on a medium heat to cook and then just drop the heat down to let them simmer until they are firm and dry as a dang ol' bone and then some salt or sauce for taste. I cannot - at all - abide moisture in my scrambled eggs, it is Horrible.

[theinevitable]

mine always end up too moist due to me sucking at knowing How Much is Too Much.

But, the way my mom taught me is:
crack eggs in bowl
scramble, using fork
introduce small amount of milk (this is where I screw up and put in too much)
introduce too much salt and pepper
put a pan on, around medium-low. add PAM-- BEFORE YOU TURN THE BURNER ON.
put the eggs on the pan.
move them around until they look done. they cook best around the edges of the pan, but that's because we have a gas burner.

You have Scrambled Eggs!
This method is good for me, other than the aforementioned Milk issue.

[Doc]

I like to crack them into the pan and scramble them there but this doesn't always end well. Adds a level of excitement though.

[V-Adore]

my grandparents gave my parents ostrich eggs to put in our house. I swear they had a little hole in them because they had been drained.

Apparently, however, one of them violently exploded in the middle of the night (the insides had rotted) and covered our living room with rotten yolk.

This story, more or less identically, happened to us once with a Ukrainian dyed egg that I made as an art project in 7th grade. (Either that, or a cat got it and my mother made up the explosion story because she knew I would appreciate a good explosion.)

[linnea]

I just like my eggs straight up with maybe a little bit of milk or butter so they don't cook too much before they are nicely scrambled. Put those suckers on a medium heat to cook and then just drop the heat down to let them simmer until they are firm and dry as a dang ol' bone and then some salt or sauce for taste. I cannot - at all - abide moisture in my scrambled eggs, it is Horrible.

Caaaaaan! I effing hate wet eggs. *shudder* I cook the shit out of mine, cook 'em till they're golden brown, crispy, and delicious. Because my cholesterol is hella bad, I will usually just either cook egg whites into an omelet or scramble one yolk mixed in with 3 egg whites.

To finish the dish, some hot sauce, such as Frank's RedHot or Tabasco does the trick. I'd like to get some of Ray's Rad Chilies sauce, I bet that's pretty good. It might even be made by the company that makes Frank's or Tabasco!

As an awesome side to the eggs, I like to have a piece of whole-wheat toast or perhaps an English muffin...either with a smidge of butter and a lot of Marmite. Mmmmmmm. I might like other spreads like Vegemite, but I've never tried those. I've only ever had Marmite.

Also, Kellichou...speaking of treats, I would like to find out which shops in Denver carry Marmite. I'm sure that all of the Whole Foods/Wild Oats shops do, so the logical progression from there is to find the place with the biggest Marmite jars. 500g if possible. I plan to buy a year's worth (I seem to burn through a 125g jar in about 8 weeks) and either pack it in my suitcase or mail it to AK. Also DAIFUKU. I plan on freezing some of those suckas and carrying them back with me. I bought some cakes that are either Vietnamese or Filipino in origin at the Asian market today...they come wrapped in banana leaves, and you have to thaw them and then steam them. I'll let you know how they turn out and if they're an acceptable substitute for regular daifuku treats or not.

[slink]

To answer the how do you scramble, as I just had an hour ago for lunch:
Beat eggs with a splash of milk (which helps to break the protein strands apart as well), butter melted in the pan, and then grind pepper into the eggs until it's like custard with vanilla specks. I mean, serious amounts of pepper!
Then scramble until they're just dry. As with my hatred of wet white on eggs, I hate runny scrambled eggs, but I don't like them to be all dry and... dry.

But really it's the pepper I care about.

[Choop]

The Good Egg

That's the cookbook. I have it. I have it.

[Carlos del Vaca]

How do you scramble your eggs? There are lots of ways to do this. What's your preferred method? Oil or butter? Scramble in the pan or in a bowl first? Low heat or a higher heat? Etc.

I actually prefer the frittata.  (I feel like I've posted this before somewhere, but I can't find it, so forgive me if it's redundant.)

Crack four or so eggs in a bowl, add about a tablespoon of water, and whisk 'em up.
Melt a little bit of butter in an oven-safe pan over medium heat, then chuck in the eggs, and let them cook until they're set on the bottom.
Then put it under the broiler until they're set on the top.  Maybe put a little Parmesan on top first.

And of course you must rip your own head off and say DO YOU WANT SOME FRITTATA? when it's ready.

[linnea]

The Good Egg

That's the cookbook. I have it. I have it.

Damn! I totally have to get that for my boss, she likes to call people good/bad egg.