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Trivial Pursuits => Arts & Entertainment => Topic started by: Limmo on August 05, 2004, 07:22:25 pm
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Here's an interesting little tidbit I found on Metafilter.
The worst CD in the world. Here's something to while away the office hours, compiling the worst CD in the world from tracks that you own.
"What's your least favourite track by your favourite band? It's a difficult question, because often we're reluctant to admit that our favourite bands have written bad songs. We program ourselves to take sides: we'll often convince ourselves that a good song by a band we don't generally like is worse than a bad song by a band we normally love.
I'm interested to know if there's any common stuff in people's most hated songs list, and conversely if something you own and hate happens to be someone else's favourite. And if there's something you really can't stand - why did you buy it? Why do you still have it?
So it's fifteen tracks in your own record collection that you hate the most. "
I'll post my own list later today. Our own PinkStainlessTail has posted some suggestions on the MeFi comments page.]
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I've been trying to do this for a while. Will consider and post a list as soon as I have one.
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My problem is that I only rip/encode the songs I like.
As for favorite bands: TMBG's worst song is Dead by far. Mary Prankster's is Darlin' or Green Eggs & Hamlet. For Fidel it's easily My Spot.
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Man, I wish I had my mp3 collection here. Well, tomorrow I'll be reunited with it. (But first of all, I'm appalled that CortJstr dislikes "Dead", or at least that he thinks its worse than the Malcolm in the Middle theme.)
My list:
1. Sonic Youth, My Friend Goo or StreamXSonicSubway
2. Magnetic Fields, Punk Love, Washington DC, and Love Is Like A Bottle of Gin
3. R.E.M., Shiny Happy People
4. Old 97s, Question. But it got all of my friends into them.
5. Elliott Smith, Amity, which has the most annoying opening ever.
6. Nick Drake, Poor Boy. I will never ever understand why it seemed like a good idea to use that kind of arrangement for a Nick goddamn Drake song. Jesus.
7. Cat Power, Names
8. Tom Waits, Warm Beer and Cold Women, oh no wait, god, that one with Bette Midler. Jesus.
9. Bob Dylan, Blowin' in the Wind or Ballad in Plain D
10. The Velvet Underground, Beginning to See the Light
11. Lou Reed, Hallowe'en Parade (off the top of my head, since I dislike quite a lot of his solo things, with the exception of Songs for Drella, which I love with all my heart.
12. David Bowie, China Girl, because it's both politically and musically sketchy.
13. Pixies, Gigantic
14. Wilco, Nothing'severgonnastandinmyway (Again)
That was difficult.
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?! Gigantic is my favorite Pixies song!
When doing TMBG I was only counting album releases. So I ruled out the themes and weird TMBG Unlimited stuff.
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This is a hard exercise. I'm sure there are more, but you know how it goes. In no particular order, what I can think of Right Now:
1. Pixies, Silver. Narrowly beat out The Navajo Know; the latter is not fuck*ng unlistenable like Silver, but it sure as shit should not have closed out Trompe Le Monde.
2. The Smiths, Meat is Murder. Come on, Morrissey. You've weighed down otherwise great albums with some clunkers, but at least you had the British decency to put this one right at the end where it's so easily avoided.
3. The Fall, Hip Priest. No fuck*ng idea why people consider this one to be so seminal; maybe you had to be there at the time. Only down spot on the otherwise mighty Hex Enduction Hour.
4. Saint Etienne, Soft Like Me. What really makes me dislike a song is when it could have been really quite good indeed if not for one bit of indulgence that fuck*ng ruins it. In this case, the awful awful lyrics that are being rapped by some guest vocalist.
5. Black Box Recorder, The Facts of Life (Chocolate Layers Remix). See above. This version I would actually like better than the original, no small thing, were it not for the adolescent (har har) choice of samples. Wow. A woman having an orgasm? That's original.
6. The Olivia Tremor Control, The Bark and Below It. Thank you for breaking up this sparkling gem of an album with something like twelve minutes of atonal masturbation, fellas.
7. Belle & Sebastian, Beyond the Sunrise. Sort of a cheap and easy shot, but seriously: does anyone like this song?
8. Big Black, Jordan, Minnesota. Steve Albini really got into the whole child-abuse-role-play aspect when playing this one live; nothing rounds out a performance like a one-man molestation show over prolonged guitar feedback.
9. Radiohead, Climbing Up the Walls. Why did they choose this for inclusion on OK Computer over Palo Alto?
10. Komeda, Campfire. Dear Komeda: Stop letting the boys sing. Thanks. Love, Saint Zartan.
11. Sonic Youth, Kool Thing. Andalucia mentioned My Friend Goo which reminded me that I did in fact own Goo (my first Sonic Youth album, in fact; I bought it for Dirty Boots after seeing the video on Beavis and Butt-Head of all places) and that Kool Thing makes me fuck*ng cringe. Kim Gordon's husky "I'm a rough girl OK" thing is somehow amplified in its awfulness by the presence of Chuck D exhorting her to "tell (us) 'bout it", to "hit (us) where it hurts". The ears presumably.
12. Aphex Twin, Ventolin. Hey Richard? If I wanted to be physically injured by my music experience, I'd dust off my Throbbing Gristle discs. Said dust seems to indicate that I actually listen to songs now, thereby excluding this awful fuck*ng racket. Amazing this was on a disc with ICCT Hedral and Next Heap With.
13. Lush, Cul de Sac. This wonderful, wonderful band handed the songwriting reins over to the boys. The boys did not typically handle the songwriting chores, and thank goodness for that - they handed back this tepid instrumental suitable for playing in any threadbare, dimly lit Holiday Inn lounge you care to recall / imagine.
14. This Mortal Coil, Baby Ray Baby or The Jeweler (tie). What's worse, having a really good album interrupted with infant noises, or listening to What's-His-Face Appleton lisp his goddamned way through a song that is heavily laden with the letter "s"? ABC SPORTS AND NISSAN PRESENT: YOU MAKE THE CALL
15. Joy Division, Autosuggestion. The drums on this track bug the ever-loving shit out of me.
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I'll be slowly adding to my list of songs i HATE by bands i LOVE:
1. Luna- "Bonny and Clyde". I think it's on Penthouse. It's the one about Bonny and Clyde with the French(?) lady Singing(?). maybe it's an OK song, if i were to be able to get over the sheer pomposity of it, except that it just does not fit on the album. the album is not experimental. why put this song on the album? why? whywhywhywhywhy? Dean, you would have made this type of song in G500 with the crazy art-school lady, but you guys broke up that band? remember? OF COURSE YOU REMEMBER because otherwise you wouldn't have been able to make this crappy song.
Sadly, it makes me ALWAYS pick this album LAST when i'm looking for a bit of Luna.
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1. Pixies, Silver.
Goddamn.
I like it. Probably the weakest track on the album, but I certainly don't think it's unlistenable.
Then again I can on occasion enjoy a bit of squarepusher, or NIN remix cds.
For me the only one that comes to mind would be Deep by NIN. Written hastily for the Tomb Raider movie, and it was shit. Everything else by the guy I think is fantastic, but that one single was dreadful and I like to pretend it never happened.
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3. R.E.M., Shiny Happy People
I remember reading an interview with Michael Stipe where he said he felt deep regret and shame for writing that song. Recently he, Mills and Buck, did a version of this, with lyrics changed, for Sesame Street called "Furry Happy Monsters." It's actually very enjoyable, and that woman from the B52's is replaced by a puppet that looks just like her.
Here's the Sesame Site with a clip from it http://www.sesameworkshop.org/sesamestreet/tv/stars/article.php?contentId=34500
9. Bob Dylan, Blowin' in the Wind or Ballad in Plain D
I used to love The Times, They are A Changin', until it was used in a banking comercial for Bank of Montreal. I'm not sure how these things happen - if Dylan had any say in it when it happened, but it just screamed sell out. The recent Victoria's Secret thing - I just watched the comercial again from the link below, it's just so, so very, creepy. What the hell Bob? What. The. Hell.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2098635
I'd actually have to dig through my CD's to find out the names of songs I hate by artists I love. It's so automatic to hit the skip button.
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1. Luna- "Bonnie and Clyde". I think it's on Penthouse. It's the one about Bonnie and Clyde with the French(?) lady Singing(?).
That's Laetitia Sadier of Stereolab singing on that track. For some reason, this song was chucked in on the end of a Stereolab Peel Sessions bootleg disc I bought a few years back. It grew on me, but then again I am pretty damn weak-willed when it comes to female voices with lovely accents. I'm willing to admit that musically it pretty much goes nowhere.
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Okay, I'ma do a list tomorrow, but for today: songs on andalucia's list that I actually like a lot:
My Friend Goo, all of the Magnetic Fields songs, Question, Names and Gigantic. I am weak. And I hold a soft spot in my heart for "Kool Thing," just because, in concert, that song is fuck*ng HOT.
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This was harder than I thought it would be. Partially because many of my favorite artists have put out entire albums of suck: The Rolling Stones, Van Halen, Aerosmith, Radiohead, Prince, RHCP, etc. Nevertheless, when I lunge for the FF button screaming "How could you?!?!", these are the fit fifteen:
The Beatles - The Continuing Adventures of Bungalow Bill. Several McCartney tunes leapt to mind, and "Revolution #9" is an evergreen on these sort of lists, but "Bungalow Bill" really is horrible. And should have been left in the loser bin with "What's the New Mary Jane".
Bob Dylan - Lay Lady Lay. A terrible song, made worse by the tippy-tapping cowbell and Dylan's de-nicotined voice. Yeesh.
James Brown - King Heroin. A public service announcement disguised as a ballad, from a man who should never ever ever lecture other people about the dangers of drugs.
Jimi Hendrix / Band of Gypsys - Who Knows. A worthy song ruined by the out-of-control scat-singing of Buddy Miles. I read once that Hendrix had to go through these tapes with a razor to remove even more of Miles' "contributions". Why not just unplug his mic?
Led Zeppelin - Tea For One. For twenty-three seconds, this is a neat song. And then it becomes the most horrible dirge they ever recorded, and stays that way for nine minutes. No thanks.
Nirvana - Milk It. A miserable, mewling piece of shit.
Peter Gabriel - The Barry Williams Show. You can just hear the label executives saying "Look, we know Up is an extended meditation on birth and death, but could you just rewrite "Sledgehammer" with lyrics about how bad talk shows are and throw it right in the middle? We need a single!" Unforgivable, especially since "Burn You Up, Burn You Down" would have made Up a perfect album. Grrrr.
The Velvet Underground - The Murder Mystery. A multi-tracked talking-head experiment that should have been left on the cutting room floor in favor of "Lisa Says." Somehow even more annoying than Metal Machine Music.
Public Enemy w/ Anthrax - Bring the Noise. On paper, this seemed like a good idea. At least, to me it did. On disc, a useless gangbang.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers - Transcending. Though half of their last album could go on this list, the last song on the Navarro album is torture of the purest kind.
R.E.M. - Hope. Another nearly perfect album called Up ruined by one unlistenable song. Electroclash odes to cancer patients are never a good idea. Even if Jough disagrees.
Passengers - Elvis Ate America. Bono? You've recorded two songs with "Elvis" and "America" in the title. They are the two worst songs you've ever done. Knock it off.
Stevie Wonder - Isn't She Lovely. Kids are great. But I don't want to hear them screaming or taking a bath on a pop song.
The Police - Mother. An obvious choice, but wow. They could have thrown Andy Summers' song "Someone To Talk To" ( the B-side of "King of Pain" ) onto Synchronicity instead and saved so many people so much suffering.
Prince - It. Takes up a lot of space on Sign O the Times that could have been filled by a dozen better songs. He's recorded many worse songs, but this is the one that just pisses me off.
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Public Enemy w/ Anthrax - Bring the Noise. On paper, this seemed like a good idea. At least, to me it did. On disc, a useless gangbang.
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuude!
No way! This fuckin RAWKS!
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R.E.M. - Hope. Another nearly perfect album called Up ruined by one unlistenable song. Electroclash odes to cancer patients are never a good idea. Even if Jough disagrees.
I do disagree, although I don't know how you'd know that. Did I include it on a mix disc I sent you?
In any case, I think it was the best song on Up (after Daysleeper) and I can't believe you like Airportman better, or fuck*ng Parakeet. In any case, Hope is NOT the worst song on that album, and I don't know if we can be friends if you're going to keep this one on your list.
The Police - Mother. An obvious choice, but wow. They could have thrown Andy Summers' song "Someone To Talk To" ( the B-side of "King of Pain" ) onto Synchronicity instead and saved so many people so much suffering.
Mother is the song that I use as an example of when a genius band can go horribly, horribly wrong. Just strum your guitar there, Dennis Miller Show band leader. Leave the songwriting to the one-named boy.
DEATH TO THE TWO NAMED BOY!
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I do disagree, although I don't know how you'd know that.
Cuz I'm wearing my special Kangol cap that makes me all psychic and shit.
We disagreed about it in an R.E.M. thread I'm too lazy to link to right now. I do think it's worse than "Airportman"( which I take as a flat-out tribute to Eno's Music For Airports ), though only marginally worse than "Parakeet." We can still be friends, though, because I'm suuuuure there will be at least one song on your fit fifteen list that I will disagree just as violently with. Whenever you post it.
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuude!
No way! This fuckin RAWKS!
My Sarcasm Detector is in the shop getting a new meter installed, so I can't tell if you're kidding or not. If you are: Yeah, it was bad enough that they tried to play the song on their instruments, but did they have to try to rap too? If not: I've got an album for you (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000297O/002-2651666-1116854?v=glance)!
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Okay! First off, the songs on others' lists so far that I genuinely enjoy: "Dead," "Shiny Happy People," and "Hope." (I also sort of like "Airportman" and "Parakeet," and I remain fascinated by the fact that everyone agrees that there were one or two reprehensible songs on Up but nobody can agree which songs they are. For my money, the loser is "You're In the Air," but that may be because it breaks a really great progression of music before it. Track placement tends to totally create or destroy songs for me. Then again, I also like "The Wrong Child," so I am fully considering that I might be a Philistine.)
Anyway, on to my Bad Album (with two R.E.M. songs because I couldn't choose and they're on the opposite sides of their spectrum):
R.E.M., "Everybody Hurts" -- I realize this is a personal thing, but this kind of drags for me. I might like it more were it not so obviously much more insipid than the material around it.
R.E.M., "Tongue" -- This is probably my least favorite R.E.M. song ever, although I may be forgetting some of the more forgettable tracks off of Reveal. I have a live cover of it, and it's not bad musically, but the lyrics are just... "Ugly girls know their fate / anybody can get laid?" You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for writing lyrics that bad.
Moxy Fruvous, "When She Talks" -- Like several others on the list, this is not so much an objectively horrible track as much as an immensely disappointing one. Thornhill is an album full of tuneful songs and authentic-ringing lyrics; this sits in the middle of the disk and goddamn drags, and it's of the "man totally awed by perfect unapproachable woman and finding excuses not to return her interest" genre which I wish would just die.
Radiohead, "Fitter Happier" -- Yes, I know this is supposed to creep me out. This doesn't mean I have any respect for it at all.
Ben Folds Five, "Brick" -- Another case of "single I used to like and probably would like more if I didn't know how well the band could do otherwise." Folds is a dynamic performer but is just so buried in murk in this track that it's become sort of unlistenable for me.
TMBG, "Unrelated Thing" -- This may be another one that I hate because of its album placement. John Henry gets off to a fast, exciting start -- and then we hit "Unrelated Thing" and everything just dies.
Thomas Dolby, "Hot Sauce" -- Kind of fun, if stupid, but absolutely unforgivable on the same album as "Budapest By Blimp."
Raised By Wolves, (http://www.raisedbywolvesmusic.com/) "Roses Are Red" -- I like Shane working slow, but not this slow. I could accept it if the lyrics were up to his usual caliber, but they don't exactly go anywhere either. Sigh.
Octothorpe, (http://www.workshop3d.com/octothorpe/octothorpe.html) "Red *****" -- HOLY SHIT STOP IT WITH THE CHIRPING DING NOISES. This song makes me want to kill things.
Semisonic, "Surprise" -- To be totally fair, this might be one of the best tracks on the disk; like "Hot Sauce," it's not a bad song on its own, just bland and disappointing from a band that can do better. (I last listened to All About Chemistry a week ago and had to pop the disk in again just to remember which song this was.)
Natalie Merchant, "The Worst Thing" -- For God's sake! When your album has a song about lynching and a song about Henry Goddamn Darger, if you want to play the "love sucks" card, you'd better do it goddamn better than this.
Cake, "Race Car Ya-Yas" -- I know this is a gag song. But there's still no excuse for "fuzzy dice hang proudly like testicles from rear-view mirrors."
Five Iron Frenzy, "Wizard Needs Food Badly" -- Maybe this is disingenuous, since I'm not all that fond of FIF, but when they're on, they're on. "Wizard" is everything they are when they're off -- formulaic, trite, smarmy, and infuriating. Also, absolutely no good at writing lyrics at all ("I think a motorcycle's a good way to die / This must bereave you").
This made me realize that there aren't that many songs I really hate from bands I like; some of these are just disappointments, really, or personal bitterness. But this has spurred me on to remember this list and start purging MP3s.
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My Sarcasm Detector is in the shop getting a new meter installed, so I can't tell if you're kidding or not.
I'm not, actually. I'm not claiming it's high art or anything, but I think it's a fun song.
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My Sarcasm Detector is in the shop getting a new meter installed, so I can't tell if you're kidding or not.
I'm not, actually. I'm not claiming it's high art or anything, but I think it's a fun song.
I've gotta agree, but then I've spent a fair ammount of time drunk and enjoying the Judgement Night soundtrack, too.
But then I know I must be a philistine, since Washington, DC is one of my favorite tracks on that Magnetic Fields disc.
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1. Luna- "Bonnie and Clyde". I think it's on Penthouse. It's the one about Bonnie and Clyde with the French(?) lady Singing(?).
That's Laetitia Sadier of Stereolab singing on that track. For some reason, this song was chucked in on the end of a Stereolab Peel Sessions bootleg disc I bought a few years back. It grew on me, but then again I am pretty damn weak-willed when it comes to female voices with lovely accents. I'm willing to admit that musically it pretty much goes nowhere.
If it's the song I'm thinking of, it's a cover of a song originally done by Serge Gainsbourg and Brigitte Bardot. I can't imagine any cover of that being good.
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4. Saint Etienne, Soft Like Me. What really makes me dislike a song is when it could have been really quite good indeed if not for one bit of indulgence that fuck*ng ruins it. In this case, the awful awful lyrics that are being rapped by some guest vocalist.
I agree about this one.. I always skip it after that first listen. I was thinking 'wtf?!'... really, on that album I mostly stick to the tracks with that butler guy at the beginning.. now, -achewood relating!- it reminds me of waterbury.. ahah.
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As for my own picks (I've actually never thought about this, so I must go do some research with my collection.. please hold..... okay!):
1. Berg Sans Nipple - stimulus plan b. it's basically just buzzing in and out... like a radio with mumbling. dj-ish. I just found it cringe worthy at first. I did find 'something' to like about it at one point.. that fact that the word 'corruption' is uttered somewhere towards the end, but I still find it hard to listen to despite how much I see how this song works on certain levels when this is SUCH a good album.
2. Boards of Canada - You Could Feel the Sky. even the clips are better than this crap! really, I didn't even throw a big fit over it upon first listen till my mom walked in while it was playing one day and said it sounded like someone ripping a fart... and it did, so I can no longer listen to it anymore.
3. Bonnie 'prince' Billy - A Minor Place. it's just a bad song to start the album with really... it's rather boring compared to all the other tracks, so I almost got disappointed in my choice in buying it on a whim. I calmed down once it ended and the real fun began.
4. Cure, The- Close To Me. sorry, but I've never liked this song from the moment I heard it in middle school when it played over and over on the radio. probably why it took years for me to get into The Cure and become a fan around '99 since I heard a letter to elise which changed my ways.
5. Interpol - Say Hello to the Angels. this one is hard to explain since I think most people do like it since it's different, bouncy, has a catch just like the others. really, Roland should be disliked more since it doesn't have anything to make ya remember it. it's just that 'SHthA' just doesn't do it for me no matter how much I tried to like it.
6. Knife in the Water - Nevada Spider. this is still one of my fav. bands (people gawk at me just for sayin' this thinking 'you have shown how good your tastes can be.. why?? you can do better than that!' ..ah well), but this song is just boring. sorry.
7. M83 - In Church. an incident while messing about with someone.. it began playing then they asked me "have you ever wanted to do it in a church?" and I switched the song.
8. Manic Street Preachers - The Intense Humming of Evil. really, it just creeps me the HELL out. it's weird that the album as a whole doesn't, but cause of the beginning clip, this one does. in fact, since it's rather late, I didn't even put it on to listen again cause I didn't want to get creeped out at this hour.. I'm already hearing weird noises.
9. Radiohead - Street Spirit (fade out). this is probably sacrilege, but it's just the way it goes sometimes...
10. Red House Painters - Song for a Blue Guitar. yes, basically the title track. this isn't even my fav. album by them, but see, the others I have are rather complete, so I cannot think of anything I dislike off of them. this track just..... doesn't do it for me. I think it's the girl dueting in the song; I'm not too big of a fan of duets in general -- later on, I did think maybe, just maybe I'd like it if it were by another band. when I first heard it, I didn't even want to hear another Red House Painters song, but good thing I was persuaded otherwise.
Speaking of duets....
11. Tindersticks - Travelling Light. this one is almost laughable! especially when it sounds like they're arguing towards the end. "her: it's just a lie. you don't travel light. him: I'm travellin' light. her: no, you don't travel light. him: I travel light. her: no, no you don't travel light. him: I'm travellin' light. her: you don't travel light" hahahah. I much prefer their first s/t album since there isn't one duet on there (that I can remember... no, I don't think there is -- waits for a guy to argue with me about this and we can duet it).
14. Spoon - Anything You Want. it's basically the piano tune is too cheesy which is amusing since my sheep song has basically the same simple keynotes yet my song is not cheesy! I guess the only saving grace is that it mentions 'sound exchange' at the end which I just noticed... well, they are a Tx band, so it would figure.
13. Twilight Singers - verti-marte. actually, when I first noticed this song, it was while I was messing about with someone (yes another story), heard the 'ooooa ooooa's (not sure how to type out this noise) in the background and had to turn it off... cause of giggling. at some points it can be okay, but I still skip it for the most part though my mom said that's just how the bird sings sounds like Simon & Garfunkel which made me want to skip that one, too (I don't mind some S&G, but I tend to dislike songs that sound like them; not that this one entirely does, but cause I was told it does).. it would probably be top hated if not for the weird occurence during a bad time with this track.
14. Wilco - Less Than You Think. I actually do like it till the long ass droning begins way less (hah!) than midway through which makes me skip it after the beginning each time. a disappointment. I hate most albums who do that droning thing where it seems there is no change till the end perhaps you get a 'click' noise or someone speaks or there's the sound of a car... I hate this... why?? (it also happened on a Carissa's Wierd album).
15. Wrens, The- Indie 500. I just don't like the 'racing' piano sound -- it makes me think of hoss races.. I know that's part of the gimmick going by the title, but I just am not a fan. a close second would be Hats Off To Marriage, Baby!.
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2. Boards of Canada - You Could Feel the Sky. even the clips are better than this crap! really, I didn't even throw a big fit over it upon first listen till my mom walked in while it was playing one day and said it sounded like someone ripping a fart... and it did, so I can no longer listen to it anymore.
I actually looked really hard at my Boards of Canada collection, but I really couldn't bring myself to single out a song (and realizing, in the process, that I didn't know the names of almost all of them) for humiliation. The albums, to me, work so well as pieces. Even if a track doesn't stand alone terribly well, it feels appropriate within the context. Yeah, Dawn Chorus is an extremely tough act to follow.
So can anyone tell me what's the deal with A Few Old Tunes Vol. 2? Fake or not, they're terrific tracks.
9. Radiohead - Street Spirit (fade out). this is probably sacrilege, but it's just the way it goes sometimes...
I could see, if someone didn't like Radiohead to begin with, how they could point to this track as being, well, really fuck*ng Radiohead, you know? But I'm just not feeling the hate on this one. Lovely video clip as well.
I guess the only saving grace is that it mentions 'sound exchange' at the end which I just noticed...
Sound Exchange employees can all eat a great big bag of dicks.
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Okay, I am restricting my list to "Really Horrible fuck*ng Songs on Otherwise Really fuck*ng Great Albums" because otherwise I'd be here all day trying to narrow-down my bottom 15.
Nirvana - "Something in the Way" - Yeah, it's inoffensive and it is at least on the end of the album. And there's that non-song at the end of it if you wait for 20 minutes of silence first - but c'mon. This sullies an otherwise great album.
Radiohead - "Fitter Happier" - This was cute once. ONCE. But it is forever skipped afterwards. Actually, confession: I loved this album SOFA KING MUCH and played it ALL THE DAMN TIME that I actually burned a copy that did NOT contain either "Fitter Happier" or "Climbing Up the Walls," the latter of which was at least partially listenable and at least was a SONG.
Morrissey - "Sorrow Will Come in the End" - I'm breaking from the "great fuck*ng album" necessisity for a minute to talk about a laughably bad track from just a mediocre album (although when compared to Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted is a fuck*ng classic). But c'mon, LAWYER <whipcrack> LIAR <whip> LAWYER <whip> LIAR <whip>. Sorrow won't come in the end - it will come when you listen to this track!
Morphine - "The Jury" - I think there may be a theme here with a lot of "talky" tracks on otherwise very melodic and terrificlly played albums. What is it with these bands that they think these novelty tracks belong on an album, i.e. something I may want to play as a whole more than once?
Belle & Sebastian - "A Space Boy Dream" / "Dirty Dream Number Two" - A one-two punch of SUCK right in the middle of one of the best albums of the 90s. Again, more talking. Oh yeah, and you can add the entire fuck*ng Looper album to the list too.
Blur - "Theme From Retro" - What the mother FUCK is this SHIT?
Pixies - "Monkey Gone to Heaven" - Okay, time for a little sacrilege. I have always hated this song, and can't believe it is so popular and loved. Someone please explain this to me, because I otherwise love the Pixies with the passion I usually reserve for a good woman.
Bruce Springsteen - "Darlington County" - Perhaps I don't have such IRE for this song, but its deletion improves Born in the U.S.A..
R.E.M. - "New Orleans Instrumental #1" - But only because I had to pick one. Add the entire Reveal album to this list, though.
Soul Coughing - "Paint" - PAINT! <doot doot doodle doo do doot doo dooooo>
Air - "Sexy Boy" - Their only hit, and the only song that DOES NOT BELONG ON THIS ALBUM. It just kills the mood. TOTALLY.
Frank Zappa - "Stink Foot" - Here Fido, this song is sucking Fido!
Pearl Jam - "Leash" - I know they're much maligned these days, but the first two PJ albums were actually hell of kicking. To pick a song from any album after that is just too easy, so I chose "Leash" off of their second album.
Beatles - "Wild Honey Pie" - Many would put "Revolution 9" here, but no, that one at least is odd. This one is just GRATING ON MY NERVES.
Jewel - "Daddy" - Go ahead and PSYCHO analyse me. Man, Jewel is just too hot, though. I bet she yodels when she comes.
Alright, there's a quick 15. I'm sure I could come up with more loathesome tracks later.
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We can still be friends, though, because I'm suuuuure there will be at least one song on your fit fifteen list that I will disagree just as violently with. Whenever you post it.
Nirvana - "Something in the Way" - Yeah, it's inoffensive and it is at least on the end of the album. And there's that non-song at the end of it if you wait for 20 minutes of silence first - but c'mon. This sullies an otherwise great album.
See what I mean?
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R.E.M. - "New Orleans Instrumental #1" - But only because I had to pick one. Add the entire Reveal album to this list, though.
Yeah, I have to agree. I think there's nothing wrong with "NOI#1" as a song, and I would probably enjoy it if it came from a band I respected less or was on a less good R.E.M. album, but on fuck*ng Automatic? Just a giant case of "man, you guys can do better." I'd cut them more slack, but shit, this is a band entirely capable of producing perfect albums.
Anyway, at the risk of taking this thread into previously-trod R.E.M.-babble, I'll just note that there are several tracks of Reveal which I will defend. "Imitation of Life" is a perfectly good single, and I have genuine, if guilty, affection for "Saturn Return" and "Chorus and the Ring." I have heard covers of "The Lifting" and "All the Way to Reno" which were pleasing. The rest of Reveal is not worth defending, as I honestly can't remember most of it.
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Belle & Sebastian - "A Space Boy Dream" / "Dirty Dream Number Two" - A one-two punch of SUCK right in the middle of one of the best albums of the 90s. Again, more talking. Oh yeah, and you can add the entire fuck*ng Looper album to the list too.
HAHAHA, there are TWO Looper albums! I OWN THEM BOTH!!!
Okay, I can't really narrow mine down, but for the next hour, I'm going to be doing schoolwork and listening to music, and every time I skip a song that I hate, I will record it here.
1. Sex and Dying in High Society- X
Okay, I know that I'm a dick, but I really don't like "Los Angeles/Wild Gift" era X. "More Fun In The New World" is one of my favorite albums, but I just can't get into this. At this point, the whole John Doe/that chick duet thing is growing old, and the fact that the chorus is them yelling the title of the song over this god-awful synthesized high note.....shit, man. GOD.
2. Wet, Wet, Wet- Badly Drawn Boy
Okay, this is actually a relatively non-offensive short ditty, but I feel I must complain: dammit, BDB, "The Hour of Bewilderbeast" was such a good album, and then you did two albums of entirely forgettable material. And you won't take that damn hat off.
3. Sue Me, Jack- Again, just a weak song on an awesome album.
4. Southern Hospitality- Kronos Quartet, from the Requiem for a Dream OST.
Clint Mansell is the poor man's Philip Glass.
5. Here Comes You Man (Pixies Cover)- SamIAm
Why in the FUCK did I BUY this ALBUM?
6. even/odd- the Rachels
Even though I'm all about hometown pride, I really don't like the new Rachels. If I wanted to listen to minimalism, I can listen to actual minimalists, not ex-pop indie kids.
7. Emanuelle Skating on Thin Ice- The Gentle Waves
This song gave me a pu$$y.
8. My *****- Looper
I'm going to have to go with Jough here and say that a Scottish dude talking over bad techno does not a good song make.
9. Come a Little Dog- Palace Music
As much as I like Palace Music/Bonnie "Prince" Billy/Will Oldham (Starlight, I LOVE "A Minor Place"! DAMN YOUS), this one is pushing it. It's just Oldham saying, "Kill a little cat, come a little dog." and barking. W.T.F.
10. Drinking in LA- Bran Van 3000
God, let's all agree that randomly inserting rappers into songs that do not require them SUCKS.
11. Blast Off- Frank Black & the Catholics
Frank Black's creepy-ass spoken delivery here just freaks me out. I can see his little egg head right now. I see it, even when I close my eyes.
12. Good Love Never Dies- Liz Phair
I'm no Pitchfork Media; I actually thought that there were some good songs off of the new Liz Phair. This isn't one of them.
13. Free Nelson Mandela- The Specials
This is what it sounds like when mighty fall.
14. A Century of Fakers- Belle & Sebastian
This song is the sort of thing really popular among people who think the word "bourgeois" means something. I think it's shit.
15. Modem Song- Looper
God DAMMIT, I now hate this band. Does anyone want my CDs?
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2. Boards of Canada - You Could Feel the Sky. even the clips are better than this crap! really, I didn't even throw a big fit over it upon first listen till my mom walked in while it was playing one day and said it sounded like someone ripping a fart... and it did, so I can no longer listen to it anymore.
I actually looked really hard at my Boards of Canada collection, but I really couldn't bring myself to single out a song (and realizing, in the process, that I didn't know the names of almost all of them) for humiliation. The albums, to me, work so well as pieces. Even if a track doesn't stand alone terribly well, it feels appropriate within the context. Yeah, Dawn Chorus is an extremely tough act to follow.
So can anyone tell me what's the deal with A Few Old Tunes Vol. 2? Fake or not, they're terrific tracks.
9. Radiohead - Street Spirit (fade out). this is probably sacrilege, but it's just the way it goes sometimes...
I could see, if someone didn't like Radiohead to begin with, how they could point to this track as being, well, really fuck*ng Radiohead, you know? But I'm just not feeling the hate on this one. Lovely video clip as well.
I guess the only saving grace is that it mentions 'sound exchange' at the end which I just noticed...
Sound Exchange employees can all eat a great big bag of dicks.
1. yeah, see, I see it that way too with BoC -- that they're pieces to listen to as a whole, but that track... that track just isn't at all listenable.
I've never heard of A Few Old Tunes Vol. 2, soooo I couldn't say... I did hear they were supposed to produce a new album soon, but I haven't heard a thing about it in forever. the last sort've new BoC related track I have is that Cloudhead one... I could've done without the rappers who sound like alvin and the chipmunks, but I did like the beat BoC did on it.
2. reason I said this was sacrelige... especially since I WAS a really big radiohead fan.. I say was cause I haven't entirely been impressed by any of their stuff in a long time... not since this bootleg I got in '99 of their rare songs. I even like Creep better than Street Spirit :\
3. is Sound Exchange bad or something? I've never been there, but heard it had some good obscure stuff, so I was thinking of checking it out sometime, but if it sucks..... hm
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I. Blondie - (I'm alway's touched by your) Presence Dear
II. The Beatles - The Ballad of John and Yoko
III. The Doors - The Soft Parade (even when I liked the Doors, I knew that whole album sucked balls. In particular, the song the album was named after is indeed a candidate for the title of Worst Song Played on Ugliest Guitar.
IV. Again, The Doors - Peace Frog
V. Elvis Presley - Wooden Heart. Elvis, don't wear Lederhosen!
VI. Leonard Cohen - The Captain
VII. Moby - Jam for the Ladies. Moby, you ain't a motha-fuckin' P.I.M.P., so don't even try.
VIII. O Brother, Where Art Thou? soundtrack - In the Highway's by the anoying kids.
IX. Pink Floyd - Paint Box
X. They Might Be Giant's - Particle Man.
XI. Wall of Voodoo - Look at their way.
XII. Primal Scream - Come together. I don't want this on the Trainspotting soundtrack.
XIII. Neil Young - A man needs a maid.
XIV. Star Wars Soundtrack - Parade of the Ewoks. I do not need to be reminded that these things exist in the Star Wars universe.
XV. Radiohead - Idioteque
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Man, I am sorry, Mantonio, but "Idioteque" is basically like treasure and you can't convince me otherwise.
Also, "Particle Man" is a fun song. It would be more fun if it wasn't one of The Only Two TMBG Songs Most People Know, but shit, I bought my first TMBG album (Severe Tire Damage) for it and fell in love, so I can't hate it.
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This post demonstrates my modly commitment to hitting "Quote" and not "Edit" and not noticing it until some sort of wiseass points it out. So there.
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That is a strong commitment to a post, for a mod to quote herself with no added text.
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And to correct a typo in that re-quote, as if to say:
Yes, I made a mistake. I'm fallible too. Now let's all move on.
And Mantonio, Idioteque is the fuck*ng RAWK. It's my favourite track from Kid A. I listened to it over and over and over again.
The Ballad of John & Yoko - fuck*ng brilliant.
The Soft Parade - also just fuck*ng GREAT.
I am with you on the Particle Man, though. That one always irked me too. Especially considering that when it came time for the 120 Minutes compilation, what TMBG song is represented? fuck*ng Particle Man.
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I would probably agree that Particle Man is the worst single but not the worst song overall. The problem with TMBG is decided what counts. Spider? Fingertips? To the Bubblecraft?
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Ahem. Now that I have bravely traveled BACK THROUGH TIME to put right what once went wrong and hit "Edit" on a post where I once hit "Quote", let's get back to the thread, shall we?
I would probably agree that Particle Man is the worst single but not the worst song overall. The problem with TMBG is decided what counts. Spider? Fingertips? To the Bubblecraft?
This is entirely a valid point. It's an open question what constitutes "good" and "bad" in their discography, and it seems to depend heavily on which album you started listening to. (See the thousands of wildly contradictory reviews of John Henry and every album after it, for example. I think at this point I've seen reviews for every album between Apollo 18 and The Spine, inclusive, proclaiming the album either The Crowning Artistic Masterwork of Their Careers or The Bitter Fruits of TMBG's Final Sell-Out.) It doesn't help that you still have things like "Fingertips" that might not even be songs.
Objectively, I think "Particle Man" is not great music but is fairly fun as novelty tracks go. As TMBG tracks go, I think it's a cute one-off and part of why Flood is an interesting album. As a summation of TMBG's career, I'd be hard-pressed to find a song that does it more poorly than "Particle Man." Sigh.
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I think at this point I've seen reviews for every album between Apollo 18 and The Spine, inclusive, proclaiming the album either The Crowning Artistic Masterwork of Their Careers or The Bitter Fruits of TMBG's Final Sell-Out.) It doesn't help that you still have things like "Fingertips" that might not even be songs.
Objectively, I think "Particle Man" is not great music but is fairly fun as novelty tracks go. As TMBG tracks go, I think it's a cute one-off and part of why Flood is an interesting album. As a summation of TMBG's career, I'd be hard-pressed to find a song that does it more poorly than "Particle Man." Sigh.
I would put John Henry as the cut off simply because it's the when they changed from just the Johns into a real band. But JH itself is too unlike all their previous work. Their later albums featuring the Band of Dans is more like the old stuff, only with a full band. Plus their early adoption of mp3 and paid downloads unleashed hundreds of tracks on the public. I have something like 400 TMBG songs and if I hadn't accidentally missed out on almost a year's worth of updates I'm sure I'd have more. But those are mostly demos, betas (I prefer the original lyrics to Cyclops Rock), and just crazy ass shit. But I can't possibly count all that.
Was Particle Man a single before the Tiny Toons video? Or did the awesomeness of that cartoon force the issue?
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And to correct a typo in that re-quote, as if to say:
Yes, I made a mistake. I'm fallible too. Now let's all move on.
And Mantonio, Idioteque is the fuck*ng RAWK. It's my favourite track from Kid A. I listened to it over and over and over again.
The Ballad of John & Yoko - fuck*ng brilliant.
The Soft Parade - also just fuck*ng GREAT.
I am with you on the Particle Man, though. That one always irked me too. Especially considering that when it came time for the 120 Minutes compilation, what TMBG song is represented? fuck*ng Particle Man.
I have to agree with Jough; Both Ballad of John and Yoko and the Soft Parade are timeless classics. I've been laying off this thread because as ond of the resident old farts on this board, I'd be mentioning music most of you couldn't care less about. In the case of The Doors and the Beatles,
I have to say something.
Damn whippersnappers. Get off my lawn.
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I would put John Henry as the cut off simply because it's the when they changed from just the Johns into a real band. But JH itself is too unlike all their previous work. Their later albums featuring the Band of Dans is more like the old stuff, only with a full band.
I'm not totally sure about this, actually. While I think there's definitely a lot about it that's not characteristic, I don't think it's the huge stylistic discontinuity that a lot of people consider it to be; it's a very eclectic album, which probably doesn't help, but I can hear the influence and exploration of themes from Apollo 18 all over JH.
Plus their early adoption of mp3 and paid downloads unleashed hundreds of tracks on the public. I have something like 400 TMBG songs and if I hadn't accidentally missed out on almost a year's worth of updates I'm sure I'd have more. But those are mostly demos, betas (I prefer the original lyrics to Cyclops Rock), and just crazy ass shit. But I can't possibly count all that.
Yeah, this is why I limited myself to choosing actual album-release tracks obviously intended as legitimate music when I made my 15 Worst list. I honestly enjoy most of TMBG's b-sides and rarities, but it doesn't seem fair to consider things like, well, Miscellaneous T's Untitled Track and the obviously-experimental half-a-songs I've scrounged on MP3.
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Bob Dylan - Lay Lady Lay. A terrible song, made worse by the tippy-tapping cowbell and Dylan's de-nicotined voice. Yeesh.
Nirvana - Milk It. A miserable, mewling piece of shit.
I really like these two songs. I think you are mistaken.
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andalucia, you mentioned the pixies which makes me have to ask...is "andalucia" from the song where it goes "I am un chein andalucia"?
أندلسيّةThat's andalucia in Arabic.
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I really like these two songs. I think you are mistaken.
Well, you go right on thinking there, Miles.
Post your own list of the fifteen worst songs and I'll throw some rocks at your choices.
Nashville Skyline was the one record where Dylan quit smoking and I just can't staaaaand his voice when it isn't ravaged by nicotine. And that cowbell just sucks. Sorry.
Kurt Cobain admitted in interviews that he was kind of going through the motions, songwriting-wise, on In Utero. And "Milk It" proves he's right, as do "Tourette's" and "Scentless Apprentice." But the latter two don't bug me quite as much.
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Nashville Skyline was the one record where Dylan quit smoking and I just can't staaaaand his voice when it isn't ravaged by nicotine. And that cowbell just sucks.
Cowbell never sucks. At any rate, Nashville Skyline has a special place in my heart thanks to a certain cowboy in my life, and I will always love that album.
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andalucia, you mentioned the pixies which makes me have to ask...is "andalucia" from the song where it goes "I am un chein andalucia"?
أندلسيّةThat's andalucia in Arabic.
Man that is neat looking. As for my name, I was listening to the John Cale song of the same name as I registered, but I do very much appreciate both the Pixies song and the Dali/Bunuel film it references.
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I can't believe the insanity I'm seeing here.
There is no such thing as a bad Pixies song. Some are less rad than others, that is all.
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I can't believe the insanity I'm seeing here.
There is no such thing as a bad Pixies song. Some are less rad than others, that is all.
Quoted for truth.
Off-topic (oxytocin at unbearable levels): Va, you are so dang adorable I can hardly stand it. The avatar is cute, and the sig just MAKES IT. I think I speak for most everybody here when I say that we can't wait for baby pictures from you and JL. Awww! <3 <3 <3
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Off-topic (oxytocin at unbearable levels): Va, you are so dang adorable I can hardly stand it.
Aww, shucks. :blush:
The avatar is cute, and the sig just MAKES IT.
Thanks! Let's just hope jough doesn't decide it's too gross and make me change it, as threatened here (http://achewood.plagiarist.com/viewtopic.php?t=1185&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0):
I'm still deciding on whether to allow pregnant gut avatars.
I mean, I'm all for AS MUCH NUDITY AS THE LAW ALLOWS in avatar useage provided it is attractive nudity (i.e. what Jough likes) but I don't know - right now it's kinda cute but 100 days from now we're all going to be such as "Ew. Gross." So perhaps it is better to nip it in the bud ASAP.
I'll let the kids weigh in on the issue before I lay the perfunctory SMACK-DOWN on't.
I'm new 'round these parts, so I really don't know how seriously I should take jough, other than taking him DEADLY seriously because he's admin.
Uh, sorry for the additional big chunk of off-topicness.
EDIT: This exchange now makes no sense as I have changed both my avatar and sig.
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I'm new 'round these parts, so I really don't know how seriously I should take jough, other than taking him DEADLY seriously because he's admin.
Uh, sorry for the additional big chunk of off-topicness.
Jough's wrath is both powerful and fickle. So nobody is really ever sure. And we've basically accepted that here the only way to be on-topic is to stray off topic.
This is why you have to read every single thread even if the actual subject line sounds boring. Just ask wombat.
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Kurt Cobain admitted in interviews that he was kind of going through the motions, songwriting-wise, on In Utero. And "Milk It" proves he's right, as do "Tourette's" and "Scentless Apprentice." But the latter two don't bug me quite as much.
Fair enough. I also quite like Scentless Apprentice though.
I tried to come up with a list, but can't really do it. A list of 15 favorite songs on albums I otherwise dislike would be easier. I guess if I really like a band and an album, I'm willing to forgive a mediocre or bad song here and there, so it's hard for me to gather a list of songs that ruin albums for me.
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Man that is neat looking. As for my name, I was listening to the John Cale song of the same name as I registered, but I do very much appreciate both the Pixies song and the Dali/Bunuel film it references.
I'd always assumsed Debaser as the insipiration for your name. My mistake. It is a great song, and a cool film.
Also a nice Cale song. I think my favorite John Cale song is Dying on the Vine. He's really great.
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Cowbell never sucks.
This is so true. Cowbell, like handclapping, always enhances a song. And sometimes all a song needs is some good percussion to make it kick ass.
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Kurt Cobain admitted in interviews that he was kind of going through the motions, songwriting-wise, on In Utero. And "Milk It" proves he's right, as do "Tourette's" and "Scentless Apprentice." But the latter two don't bug me quite as much.
Fair enough. I also quite like Scentless Apprentice though.
I tried to come up with a list, but can't really do it. A list of 15 favorite songs on albums I otherwise dislike would be easier. I guess if I really like a band and an album, I'm willing to forgive a mediocre or bad song here and there, so it's hard for me to gather a list of songs that ruin albums for me.
Cobain wrote Scentless Apprentice in referrence to the central character in "Perfume" by Patrick Suskind, which is a relativly enjoyable book. The song itself, isn't a favorite, but I always thought the context was interesting.
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Cobain wrote Scentless Apprentice in referrence to the central character in "Perfume" by Patrick Suskind, which is a relativly enjoyable book. The song itself, isn't a favorite, but I always thought the context was interesting.
Yeah, one of those songs that show how culturally literate your favorite rock stars actually are. Like Killing an Arab by the Cure and Debaser by the Pixies.
Or maybe it's just pretentiousness.
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Cowbell never sucks.
This is so true. Cowbell, like handclapping, always enhances a song. And sometimes all a song needs is some good percussion to make it kick ass.
<geek-style: music;>
It's like someone I met a while back at a particularly dull and frustrating party, who hated Jane Says, purely because of the steel drums. They make it what it is!
Regarding Scentless Apprentice... I really like. Similarly Milk It I really like too. I liked Nirvana when they were at that level of... dischord. It's made by Grohl's drumming, and the fact that while it is relatively tuneless, you can find melody in there.
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Cowbell never sucks.
This is so true. Cowbell, like handclapping, always enhances a song. And sometimes all a song needs is some good percussion to make it kick ass.
<geek-style: music;>
It's like someone I met a while back at a particularly dull and frustrating party, who hated Jane Says, purely because of the steel drums. They make it what it is!
Regarding Scentless Apprentice... I really like. Similarly Milk It I really like too. I liked Nirvana when they were at that level of... dischord. It's made by Grohl's drumming, and the fact that while it is relatively tuneless, you can find melody in there.
I have to agree that, in comparison with the rest of the catalog, lay lady lay is just plain bad. The cowbell is RELENTLESS. And thanks to this thread, I heard this song the other day and the damn cowbell drowned out the uncharacteristically smooth and understandable Dylan as well as the slidy chord changes. It was like being on the roof of Canterbury Cathedral at noon. A tolerable song is now a horror for me..
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Wow. Someone played me some Momus songs yesterday. You know what the worst 15 songs are? Any fifteen songs by that guy. Of all the self-centered inane crud...
What is the cultural meaning
Of coming in a girl's mouth
Would I like to feed her
Or fill her up with filth
Er, does it have to have a cultural meaning, you too-precious twit? Later he says something funny about painting a milk moustache across her face. But it's still stupid. And this lyric is just beyond parodyJourneeeeey...
to the center of meeeee
Is there something I'm not getting about Momus or is he really this ridiculous? I'm soooo excited to journey to the center of Momus.
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MERCIFUL JESUS, WHAT THE SHIT IS THAT
"What is the cultural meaning of coming in a girl's mouth?!"
I would like now to issue a blanket apology to R.E.M. for previous criticism of the lyrics to "Tongue." While I still believe that you could have and have done much better than "ugly girls know their fate / everybody can get laid," that lyric cannot even begin to touch the badness of "what is the cultural meaning of coming in a girl's mouth." I'm sorry, R.E.M. I'm so, so sorry.
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A tolerable song is now a horror for me.
Well, shit, now I wrecked a song for you. Jim feel bad now.
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I'll be slowly adding to my list of songs i HATE by bands i LOVE:
1. Luna- "Bonny and Clyde". I think it's on Penthouse. It's the one about Bonny and Clyde with the French(?) lady Singing(?). maybe it's an OK song, if i were to be able to get over the sheer pomposity of it, except that it just does not fit on the album. the album is not experimental. why put this song on the album? why? whywhywhywhywhy? Dean, you would have made this type of song in G500 with the crazy art-school lady, but you guys broke up that band? remember? OF COURSE YOU REMEMBER because otherwise you wouldn't have been able to make this crappy song.
Sadly, it makes me ALWAYS pick this album LAST when i'm looking for a bit of Luna.
2. Soundgarden- "Full on Kevin's Mom" from Louder than Love.
I hate this song. my name is Kevin. i listened to this tape a lot. this song sucks. i love soundgarden. why did you make this song, guys?
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2. Soundgarden- "Full on Kevin's Mom" from Louder than Love.
I hate this song. my name is Kevin. i listened to this tape a lot. this song sucks. i love soundgarden. why did you make this song, guys?
They're probably not talking about your mom. Probably.
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2. Soundgarden- "Full on Kevin's Mom" from Louder than Love.
I hate this song. my name is Kevin. i listened to this tape a lot. this song sucks. i love soundgarden. why did you make this song, guys?
They're probably not talking about your mom. Probably.
No, that's the weird thing. They are talking about his mom. She used to par-tay with the band, groupie style.
Man, Kev, I was just thinking about your mom the other day. Good times, good times...
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Man, Kev, I was just thinking about your mom the other day. Good times, good times...
if you see her again,
tell her i'd like to meet her.
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I'm not going to post a list to this (though I really want to) because that's the punishment for being away so long. I just wanted to say that threads like this are why this message board is so enjoyable. Also I wanted to say that even if it sounds mawkish and sentimental, I missed you people. This was good reading.
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I'm not going to post a list to this (though I really want to) because that's the punishment for being away so long.
punishment for whom?
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punishment for whom?
Yea, I mean, it's not like half our threads even stay on topic, so adding to an old one, on topic would win you a Pulitzer!
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I'll be slowly adding to my list of songs i HATE by bands i LOVE:
1. Luna- "Bonny and Clyde". I think it's on Penthouse. It's the one about Bonny and Clyde with the French(?) lady Singing(?). maybe it's an OK song, if i were to be able to get over the sheer pomposity of it, except that it just does not fit on the album. the album is not experimental. why put this song on the album? why? whywhywhywhywhy? Dean, you would have made this type of song in G500 with the crazy art-school lady, but you guys broke up that band? remember? OF COURSE YOU REMEMBER because otherwise you wouldn't have been able to make this crappy song.
Sadly, it makes me ALWAYS pick this album LAST when i'm looking for a bit of Luna.
2. Soundargen- "Spoonman". On superunknown. i hate this song.
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2. Soundargen- "Spoonman". On superunknown. i hate this song.
I don't know how to spell a singularly shocked noise.
I love that song. That is all.
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I just hate when Chris tears into that word . . . "Spooooooonmaaaaaaan". I'm down with that, Ark.
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I just hate when Chris tears into that word . . . "Spooooooonmaaaaaaan". I'm down with that, Ark.
Me too. It was one of the Low points for the Seattle music scene. The rest of the album ain't bad though. In fact, much of it's pretty damn good.
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Holy Jesus, Luna covered a Serge Gainsbourg song??
I really, really need to seek this out immediately. For serious. I love my sleazy French pop.
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Yeah, I got no problem with most of Soundgarden. I did just notice that Ark has added 2 #2s to his list, and they are both Soundgarden songs.
I don't like Black Sabbath's "Changes". Ozzy, you're an iconic metal-type guy, but your voice when combined with that song seems intended to make me hate you. That's the worst possible song that could have been paired with your voice.
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I would like "Spoonman" better if local alterna-rock stations didn't overplay the shit out of it. Not on my "worst songs" list by any means though.
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A tolerable song is now a horror for me.
Well, shit, now I wrecked a song for you. Jim feel bad now.
No, my, friend, you have illuminated me. Besides, when I hear cowbell in a song now I picture Will Ferrell jumping around and Christopher Walken egging him on.
My GOD, man, I GOTTA have MORE COWBELL! I can't LIVE without more COWBELL!
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Holy Jesus, Luna covered a Serge Gainsbourg song??
I really, really need to seek this out immediately. For serious. I love my sleazy French pop.
Gainsbourg may be sleazy, but he's a fuck*ng genius. Have you heard the Cannabis soundtrack? That's been on very heavy rotation lately. It's worth seeking out, IMMEDIATELY.
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There's some quote from a William Gibson book, in which a character describes Gainsbourg as "Some French guy named Gainsbourg who sounded like he was being slowly jerked off as he sang."
But I like him too!
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There's some quote from a William Gibson book, in which a character describes Gainsbourg as "Some French guy named Gainsbourg who sounded like he was being slowly jerked off as he sang."
But I like him too!
I guess in that one song, Je T'aime...Moi Non Plus (I think that's the title, a duet with Birkin featuring heavy breathing and the like), one of the lines translates as "I come and go in between your kidneys." Also, he sang a duet about incest with his daughter. And told Whitney Houston he wanted to fuck her on a live TV show, from what I hear.
Seriously though, Cannabis is a brilliant record. I stumbled upon it through Saint Etienne--their mix album "The Trip" opens with the title track from Cannabis. It's so brilliant, and the rest of the score ain't bad either. He scored it for a movie he starred in. I'm trying to find a copy of it, but no such luck yet. But I think the album should be easy enough to download if you look around a bit. CD copies run for about $30, and I haven't found an LP copy yet.
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not only did i add #2 twice,
the second time i mispelt the bands name.
and i think i just mispelt mispell.
their grrreeeeeat! (wherein "their" = "me")
I'll be slowly adding to my list of songs i HATE by bands i LOVE:
1. Luna- "Bonny and Clyde". I think it's on Penthouse. It's the one about Bonny and Clyde with the French(?) lady Singing(?). maybe it's an OK song, if i were to be able to get over the sheer pomposity of it, except that it just does not fit on the album. the album is not experimental. why put this song on the album? why? whywhywhywhywhy? Dean, you would have made this type of song in G500 with the crazy art-school lady, but you guys broke up that band? remember? OF COURSE YOU REMEMBER because otherwise you wouldn't have been able to make this crappy song.
Sadly, it makes me ALWAYS pick this album LAST when i'm looking for a bit of Luna.
2. Soundgarden- "Full on Kevin's Mom" from Louder than Love.
I hate this song. my name is Kevin. i listened to this tape a lot. this song sucks. i love soundgarden. why did you make this song, guys?
3. Soundgarden- "Spoonman". On superunknown. i hate this song.
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2. Soundargen- "Spoonman". On superunknown. i hate this song.
I don't know how to spell a singularly shocked noise.
I love that song. That is all.
"Feel the rhythm with your hands
Steal the rhythm while you can, Spoonman
Speak the rhythm on your own
Speak the rhythm all alone, Spoonman
Spoonman, come together with your hands
Save me, I'm together with your plan
Save me"
what.
the.
fuck.
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2. Soundargen- "Spoonman". On superunknown. i hate this song.
I don't know how to spell a singularly shocked noise.
I love that song. That is all.
"Feel the rhythm with your hands
Steal the rhythm while you can, Spoonman
Speak the rhythm on your own
Speak the rhythm all alone, Spoonman
Spoonman, come together with your hands
Save me, I'm together with your plan
Save me"
what.
the.
fuck.
My own annoyance with that fuck*ng song could not have been expressed better. Although I'm sure Spoonman really appreciated the minor celebrity status that the song briefly gave him.
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My own annoyance with that fuck*ng song could not have been expressed better. Although I'm sure Spoonman really appreciated the minor celebrity status that the song briefly gave him.
i hope noone thinks i'm trying to diss the virtuosity of mr. spoonman. his spooning is incaparable.
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You have to be careful dogging Soundgarden for their lyrics, because most of them are fairly dodgy.
I'm sitting in a magic hat
With smoke and mirrors
And tire rubber fires
Watch me disappear
What made it slow you down
Sucking on a ball and chain
Another motherfucker goes down the drain
Hard headed fuck you all
Just add it up to the hot rod death toll
And I like that song. Nice work, Chris.
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I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for this thread, since I'm not sure I ever liked the band in the first place, but "Wake Up (And Make Love To Me)" (http://www.countrybumpkin.ndo.co.uk/wakeup.html) has some of the worst lyrics I have ever heard. I am honestly sort of sketched out by the fact that The SO loves this song. I mean, what the shit? Should I be troubled?
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Honey? Honey? Honneeeeeyyyyyyy! Wake up! Wake up....and make LOVE to me!
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You have to be careful dogging Soundgarden for their lyrics, because most of them are fairly dodgy.
yes, but, i hate the music part as well.
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Well, yeah - the music on that song is pretty goofy. Good point.
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I don't know what the hell you're talking about, but then again I don't really keep up with the kids anymore.
Oh, as far as the "blind buys" that I downloaded without having heard them at all first, I am very much liking Television's "Marquee Moon" and Badly Drawn Boy's "Bewilderbeast".
Also, The Thorns album is really good and I also like Love's "Forever Changes" which is the best album from the 60s you've never heard.
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I wouldn't call Forever Changes particularly unknown, but then again I assumed everyone had Marquee Moon, so what the hell do I know?
Edit: Why do my fingers fight with my keyboard, instead of working in concert with it?
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I wouldn't call Forever Changes particularly unkown, but then again I assumed everyone had Marquee Moon, so what the hell do I know?
See, I thought the game was albums anyone who is, as they say, anyone should have. Although albums everyone DOES have would also be a good game in itself.
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Or albums that are in every used CD bin ever. Or, even better, GOOD albums that are in every CD bin.
"LAST SPLASH," BY THE BREEDERS, I'M LOOKING AT YOU.
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I wouldn't call Forever Changes particularly unkown, but then again I assumed everyone had Marquee Moon, so what the hell do I know?
Arthur Lee is now out of prison, I understand. They played in Seattle one summer, but I wasn't there.
Make-Up: Mission accomplished.
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Or albums that are in every used CD bin ever.
The elves that used to repair pair after pair of shoes for kindly old tinkers are now responsible for distributing copies of "Bigger, Better, Faster, More!", and from all appearances they are doing a terrific job. I heard it is actually illegal to operate a used music storefront in some states without at least two copies of this album.
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I wouldn't call Forever Changes particularly unkown, but then again I assumed everyone had Marquee Moon, so what the hell do I know?
See, I thought the game was albums anyone who is, as they say, anyone should have. Although albums everyone DOES have would also be a good game in itself.
OK, I was just referring to Jogh's comment, which itself probably references the Albums I'm a Fool For Not Owning (http://achewood.plagiarist.com/viewtopic.php?t=1623) thread. This thread appears to be, at it's core, songs that suck by artists you love. I don't think there's anything about how everyone should have these albums, otherwise St. Zart's list makes me look like an idiot. Not only do I not have those albums, I've never even heard of some of those artists. I'm sticking with Limmo.
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Woo-hoo!
Marquee Moon is one of those records that I know is utterly excellent yet I always turn it off after the fourth song ends.
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I'll take a whack at this...
1) "It's like Soul, Man" by Guided By Voices - I'd rather listen to metal scraping across a boombox mic than hear this Tobin Sprout nugget. In fact, with the old GBV bootlegs, I can! I seriously don't consider any of the noise experiments that were thrown away and re-dredged up for compilations on Suitcase and other places as real actual songs. But as far as songs on official albums and EP's this was the bogusest.
2) "Papal Visit" by The Fall - Yeah Mark E Smith is great for spinning intricate stories but if he has shit for accompaiment why bother?
Also somebody mentioned earlier they didn't like "Hip Priest"? I thought it was fine - but I'm more into the long rambling songs in the first place. Was it more that it just didn't compare at all as an epic after "The NWRA"? That I can agree on.
3) "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" by The Beatles - Just one of about 50 reasons to kick Paul McCartney in the face. A very high-up reason too.
4) "Flaming Heart" by Swervedriver - It almost feels like dirty pool to pick a short instrumental, but it's even dirtier pool that it's stuck on Ejector Seat Reservation, my personal favorite album from the band. It's not godawful terrible - just meh.
5) "Aspectacle" by Can - JUST SO BLOODY fuck*ng PLAIN ARGH.
6) "The Breadman" by Superchunk - Man, Mac wrote some dumb shit back in the early days. He made up for it, but dang this was a dog.
7) "World in Motion" by New Order - Sports themes (even if it is for the World Cup) are BAD.
8) "For You" by Big Star - Just really plodding and almost a chore to listen to.
9) "Don't You Ever Dare Call Me Chickenhead" by Andy Partridge - Dunno if it's fair to consider his Fuzzy Warbles demos as part of the XTC canon but I'm gonna do it anyway, since some cuts are actually full band songs. I think he's even run down this song himself as the worst thing he ever recorded. And he does not lie.
10) "Look Here" by The Clash - For a band that was supposed to be perfect up until Combat Rock, the sure did pack Sandanista! with a fair amount of shit.
11) "Get Funky" by Teenage Fanclub - Just because it's every other TFC fans' least favorite. No, actually I just - I never could stand it, from the day I ripped off Thirteen from BMG I always skpped past this thing. Before it was cool to be a hater.
12) "Electronic Renaissance" by Belle and Sebastian - Nothing against them being cheery, everything against them playing with electronics and sucking at making something entertaining. Irony that the next song on Tigermilk is probably one of their best songs ever.
13) "Drive-By Fader" by Pavement - There's a difference between awesome noisy rockout instrumentals and things I could recreate on my Yamaha keyboard 10 years ago - with nothing in skills to speak of whatsoever..
14) "Saturday" by Yo La Tengo - Dear Zod I am going to fall asleep. And the album hasn't even really started yet. Way to go, Ira and Georgia.
15) "House of Sun" by The Boredoms - Losing two band members iis no excuse for a 20 minute instrument tune-up that doesn't accomplish anything. By contrast, the "Seadrum" A-side is incredible.
And that's that - I had to do something more than a "HI I AM NEW THROW POOP AT ME" post I picked this thing.
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a quick scan of my itunes reveals the worst 15 songs by bands i otherwise enjoy:
The Pixies, 'Silver' - Jesus CHRIST what is this song doing on Doolittle.
Beta Band, 'Monolith' - Self-indulgent sampling garbage of other songs on the SAME album comprises the longest song of said album. It's a centerpiece...of bullshit!
Echo and the Bunnymen, 'Make Me Shine' - Most unnecessarily flamboyant Echo song.
Modest penis, 'Convenient Parking' - Yeah, we get that you like to repeat song lines. You still need more than one line. God damn it.
My Bloody Valentine, 'Everything but the First Song' - Just joking, the first one sucks, too.
The Postal Service, 'This Place is a Prison' - When Ben Gibbard lyrical sadness joins forces with Jim Tamborello electronic sadness, they form...shit.
Radiohead, 'Treefingers' - If this selection seems controversial to you, congratulations, you are a pretentious dick.
Wilco, 'Less Than You Think' - If you're a band with 15 minutes on a CD to fill up, and you're also a band that hates it when people listen to you, check out 'Less Than You Think'.
*NEW ENTRY* ...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead, 'Worlds Apart' - Actual quote: 'Look at those punks on MTV...with cribs...and shit; is that what being celebrity means?!' Gee. How profound.
*GRAND PRIZE WINNER*
Polyphonic Spree, 'A Long Day' - I actually saw these guys live by chance a couple years ago, before I even knew who they were. Exhilirated, I bought the album at the concert, and loved up until song 10, or, more accurately, the second half of the fuck*ng album. At over 36 minutes, 'A Long Day' is nothing more than a tone experiment that changes a voice pitch once every ten minutes, and literally does nothing else. If I ever meet a member of the Polyphonic Spree again I will kick his or her flower-loving, music-bullshitting ass.
There you go; not quite 15, but I think that's a quality sampling of all the pent up rage I have inside.
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"Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" by The Beatles - Just one of about 50 reasons to kick Paul McCartney in the face. A very high-up reason too.
BatzRadio is not my friend.
~Paul
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The Postal Service, 'This Place is a Prison' - When Ben Gibbard lyrical sadness joins forces with Jim Tamborello electronic sadness, they form...shit.
Radiohead, 'Treefingers' - If this selection seems controversial to you, congratulations, you are a pretentious dick.
Wilco, 'Less Than You Think' - If you're a band with 15 minutes on a CD to fill up, and you're also a band that hates it when people listen to you, check out 'Less Than You Think'.
Aw... I like that Postal Service song -- perhaps since the placement I put it at on the best mix I ever made a couple years ago goes well with the theme... I admit on the album I didn't pay as much attention.
Hell, I dislike about half or more of what Radiohead has done since OK Computer. lots of people get on my case about this, but honestly! I heard rarities in '99 with some future Kid A tracks on it which were acoustic only, got my hopes up then wondered what in the hell happened. perhaps I would have appreciated the new sound better if I didn't hear the acoustics.
Indeed to the Wilco track.. it's on my top 15 as well (on pg.1 of this very thread).
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"Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" by The Beatles - Just one of about 50 reasons to kick Paul McCartney in the face. A very high-up reason too.
BatzRadio is not my friend.
~Paul
But but but but...I LIKED RAM!
And as far as other Paul White Album songs I liked Rocky Raccoon and Blackbird and I think just about everytrhing else Paul wrote on that album - but GODDAMN I hated that TRAAHH LAHHH HOW DEE LIFE GOES AWN.
And all other 49 reasons happened either outside of the studio (during the existence of the Beatles), or after Band on the Run. I defy you to defend "Ebony and Ivory" even being hatched outside its' PC overtones.
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Also somebody mentioned earlier they didn't like "Hip Priest"? I thought it was fine - but I'm more into the long rambling songs in the first place. Was it more that it just didn't compare at all as an epic after "The NWRA"? That I can agree on.
That was me. And yeah, you had two mighty, epic songs on Grotesque: "C & C Stop Mithering" and "The N.W.R.A." (which, as an added bonus, continued the legend of the Totale family). They told stories, and were engaging - "Hip Priest" is what? Mark E. Smith making fun of record critics? That is too easy, even for its time; I've seen / heard it done better and without a gratuitous falsetto. What bugs me is that so many people hold that up as "classic / essential The Fall", when it's just that sort of song that puts off potential new listeners.
"World in Motion" by New Order - Sports themes (even if it is for the World Cup) are BAD.
I listen to early New Order, and then I listen to "World in Motion" and its accomplices, and I wonder if maybe they had, somewhere along the way, taken the KLF's "The Manual" a little too seriously.
"Electronic Renaissance" by Belle and Sebastian - Nothing against them being cheery, everything against them playing with electronics and sucking at making something entertaining. Irony that the next song on Tigermilk is probably one of their best songs ever.
I'm sorry, but this is one of my favorites off of that album. I wouldn't like a steady dose of it (although it's better than almost anything off of Waitress, unfortunately), but I think the effects actually suited the very gentle and low-key vocals Stuart was going with at the time. And that opening burst of notes is just so upbeat and good.
EDIT: Don't worry, Batz, I caught shit from Paul early in my career for missing an Al Green reference.
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My Bloody Valentine, 'Everything but the First Song' - Just joking, the first one sucks, too.
You could have saved a lot of time and effort by just typing in
I HATE MUSIC
and pressing "Submit".
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I've seen / heard it done better and without a gratuitous falsetto. What bugs me is that so many people hold that up as "classic / essential The Fall", when it's just that sort of song that puts off potential new listeners.
Well I wouldn't call it ESSENTIAL - just merely enjoyable. I sure as hell wouldn't put it on an introductory mix CD of their stuff for new initiates. Did you happen to hear their final Peel session? I'm thinking I'd close out my latest version of what I'd make with "Blindness" (from that session). I'm hoping the studio version turns out good and there's not another slight to the end product like with "Eat Y'Self Fitter".
I listen to early New Order, and then I listen to "World in Motion" and its accomplices, and I wonder if maybe they had, somewhere along the way, taken the KLF's "The Manual" a little too seriously.
Well I liked most of Republic, and this latest stuff that's due out in a month is great - but the whole sports anthem motif doesn't fit the band at all, and it shows like an ugly putrid bruise.
I'm sorry, but this is one of my favorites off of that album. I wouldn't like a steady dose of it (although it's better than almost anything off of Waitress, unfortunately), but I think the effects actually suited the very gentle and low-key vocals Stuart was going with at the time. And that opening burst of notes is just so upbeat and good.
It was just - difficult to listen to and it still is - although not as badly as it was 4 years ago when I first heard it. I guess that's due to oversaturation with beats and that discopunk thing that all the kids are into. But still, when listening to Tigermilk in the car I can't resist the urge to hit the skip button. But that might be more rooted in an urge to get to "I Could Be Dreaming" sooner.
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Did you happen to hear their final Peel session?
The last Peel Session I heard was from February 2003 - the one that kicked off with just a fantastic performance of "Sparta F.C.", the one that makes the album version look like an anemia patient living on a diet of sherbet and waffles.
I guess that's due to oversaturation with beats and that discopunk thing that all the kids are into. But still, when listening to Tigermilk in the car I can't resist the urge to hit the skip button. But that might be more rooted in an urge to get to "I Could Be Dreaming" sooner.
Yes, that song is beautiful. Do you love the girl energetically, sincerely reading the passage at the end of that song? Because it makes it for me. Also discopunk kids are basically on my Brass Knuckle List™; it is one thing to like Ladytron and another thing to live your life like you like Ladytron.
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3) "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" by The Beatles - Just one of about 50 reasons to kick Paul McCartney in the face. A very high-up reason too.
I'll see your Ob-La-Di and raise you a Why Don't You Get a Job? by The Offspring.
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I'll see your Ob-La-Di and raise you a Why Don't You Get a Job? by The Offspring.
Haha. Same place in hell they will both end up, indeed. Ugh!
They kept playing the Offspring version on the radio when I used to listen to the radio and it was I think their worst moment in history. I still qill occasionally put Ixnay on, but after that they were just selling out fast.
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I'll see your Ob-La-Di and raise you a Why Don't You Get a Job? by The Offspring.
Haha. Same place in hell they will both end up, indeed. Ugh!
They kept playing the Offspring version on the radio when I used to listen to the radio and it was I think their worst moment in history. I still qill occasionally put Ixnay on, but after that they were just selling out fast.
I dunno... there's also this (http://www.lyrics007.com/Offspring%20Lyrics/Pretty%20Fly%20(For%20A%20White%20Guy)%20Lyrics.html), which, (although this'll regrettably show my age pretty clearly), I will forever associate with aerobics in seventh-grade gym class. My teacher thought he was pretty hip with what the kids were into, which was apparently running up and down stairs then throwing medicine balls at one another while listening to the Offspring. Sadly, to the majority of my peers, he was probably right.
</digression into scarring childhood>
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</digression into scarring childhood>
Was that not on the same album? I think it was. i think it was all Americana. It really was a fairly dire jump into being shills. Ixnay I reckon has some good stuff on it, some well thought out melodies and harmonies, though OK, it's still just not real punk...
I guess you have to remember that Dexter started the band with his high school's janitor. Doesn't bode well for coolness.
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</digression into scarring childhood>
Was that not on the same album? I think it was. i think it was all Americana.
Indeed they are both on Americana. I only mentioned Why Don't You Get a Job? because it's derived form Ob-la-di. And mananges to make it worse.