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Title: 04/14 - Washing grapes
Post by: foolio on April 14, 2005, 06:03:55 am

F1rst Post! again!

Didn't like this one much.

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Post by: hello_jello on April 14, 2005, 07:09:47 am

why would you pop the virginity of a thread for a strip you didn't even like that much

cold, dude

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Post by: MattFish on April 14, 2005, 07:35:13 am

I applaud Onstad for being able to write so much dialogue with that weird broken english and not completely break down.

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Post by: pmcd9 on April 14, 2005, 11:57:18 am

We hate the wait, but the payoff is worth it.

~Paul

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Post by: CortJstr on April 14, 2005, 12:51:01 pm

You people at least have to admit the greatness of Ray's face in the last panel.

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Post by: Mr Trout on April 14, 2005, 01:21:25 pm

Yeah, that last panel is great. I have an uncontrollable habit of glancing ahead at panels before I read the dialogue and when I saw that expression for an instant I couldn't imagine what turn in the conversation could change Ray's mood like that.

The comparison to John Henry is awesome, and it sure seems to have gotten to Ray.

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Post by: side_show on April 14, 2005, 01:27:33 pm

Agreed - I love the progression to the last panel - the evolution from Ray having fun with the converstaion to just looking totally crushed.

I'm honestly surprised at the amount of empathy Lil' N apparently has for Japanese-American Jointrolling buisiness man, and impressed as to how he uses this to bring down Ray.  

So is Lil' N actually dealing drugs and feeling the sting from Ray and Lyle, or is it just a prank?

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Post by: wombat on April 14, 2005, 01:31:10 pm

Oh LN, you little devil. Keep up the good work.

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Post by: arkabee on April 14, 2005, 01:38:06 pm

Quote from: "side_show"

Agreed - I love the progression to the last panel - the evolution from Ray having fun with the converstaion to just looking totally crushed.

I'm honestly surprised at the amount of empathy Lil' N apparently has for Japanese-American Jointrolling buisiness man, and impressed as to how he uses this to bring down Ray.  

So is Lil' N actually dealing drugs and feeling the sting from Ray and Lyle, or is it just a prank?

i was reading something the other day from this guy who as a child new a serial killer.  discussions go towards others in the same boat.  general consensus was that they, the killers, were either anti-social or _Extremely_ capable of displaying "excellent" empathy.  whether that empathy was real or feigned was being discussed.

however, it was generally agreed upon that whether due to conscious effort or not, the empathy was used in such a way as to produce the results from people that the sociopathic killer wanted.  

often times you hear people talking about the latest sick fuck on tv, and you hear them say "man, why did she let him live in her house for 6 months?  that's so dumb!!!.  yet, was she dumb?  was she dumb to be taken in by an extremely charismatic and empathic person who was able, possibly for the first time ever, listen and show compassion?

what i'm getting at people, is that Little Nephew is a sociopath and have you seen the squirrels lately?  or the *****s?  or pat?  or nice pete?

i haven't.

i sure do wonder when Little Nephew saw them last...



seriously, though, i think LN is just messing with ray, because even if LN _is_ selling pot, given his propensity to steal from uncle ray, it's in his best interest for the machine to work, because there will be higher volume, which means:  greater amount to steal.

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Post by: Golfhaus on April 14, 2005, 02:22:47 pm

The latest blog entry would indicate that LN is, in fact, dealing - but that at the moment, Teodor is his only client.

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Post by: PinkStainlessTail on April 14, 2005, 02:48:20 pm

Quote from: "arkabee"

i was reading something the other day from this guy who as a child knew a serial killer.  discussions go towards others in the same boat.  general consensus was that they, the killers, were either anti-social or _Extremely_ capable of displaying "excellent" empathy.  whether that empathy was real or feigned was being discussed.

however, it was generally agreed upon that whether due to conscious effort or not, the empathy was used in such a way as to produce the results from people that the sociopathic killer wanted.  

often times you hear people talking about the latest sick fuck on tv, and you hear them say "man, why did she let him live in her house for 6 months?  that's so dumb!!!.  yet, was she dumb?  was she dumb to be taken in by an extremely charismatic and empathic person who was able, possibly for the first time ever, listen and show compassion?

See, this is why whenever I hear people going on about "emotional intelligence (http://www.eiconsortium.org/research/what_is_emotional_intelligence.htm)" I start thinking about successful sociopaths and how they must have just gobs of the stuff.

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Post by: V-Adore on April 14, 2005, 03:21:43 pm

Love the expression changes. LN is doing a really remarkable job here, even if he is proving himself to be The Littl'st Sociopath.

Also... mmmmm, irregular panels.

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Post by: pmcd9 on April 16, 2005, 05:12:03 am

Quote from: "arkabee"

what i'm getting at people, is that Little Nephew is a sociopath and have you seen the squirrels lately?  or the *****s?  or pat?  or nice pete?

i haven't.

i sure do wonder when Little Nephew saw them last...

Interesting little tidbit I found over at The Achewood Underground Gun (http://www.paulmcrae.com/Miscellany/Achewood_Underground_Gun/Achewood_Underground_Gun.html)

~Paul

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Post by: AugustWest on April 16, 2005, 05:16:45 am

Paul,   You..Are..Rad.

Really really rad.

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Post by: Limmo on April 17, 2005, 11:19:10 pm

No! NOOOOOOOOOO!  Not Todd!

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Post by: V-Adore on April 18, 2005, 12:28:12 am

Quote from: "Limmo"

No! NOOOOOOOOOO!  Not Todd!

Don't worry; he'll flush himself out of Hell soon enough.

EDIT: Assuming he's in Hell at all. It seems to be sort of unclear, since it is heavily implied that as long as you die "for real," you'll go to Heaven. (http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=12242001) That said, the last time Todd got peeled out on, he went to Hell. What gives? CONTINUITY, MR. ONSTAD, CONTINUITY </anorak>

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Post by: Golfhaus on April 18, 2005, 12:44:44 am

Seems to me Todd would rather go to Hell anyway. Once you get over the Brat thing, it doesn't seem that bad... especially since he's figured out how to get back and all. I'd rather answer a question from a Friendly's menu then have the murder act commisioned upon me anyday.

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Post by: jough on April 18, 2005, 01:06:18 am

Heaven burned to the ground (clouds?) so going to heaven is not an option for anyone anymore.

Am I the only one who reads this strip?  Hello?

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Post by: Golfhaus on April 18, 2005, 01:46:36 am

Are we sure it was all of Heaven, and not just that one building within Heaven? Seems to me, if all of Heaven came crashing down, and everyone who "collected on a bum ticket" was returned to Earth, there should have been an influx of new characters, not just Molly.

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Post by: arkabee on April 18, 2005, 02:11:39 pm

paul is The (proverbial non-gender specific) Man.

i thought of you Paul, this weekend, when i planted my first ever tomato plant at my lady's new house.  I named it Nader.  is that wrong?

also, is chainlink fence an acceptable "thing" for which the tomato plant to entwine within and not fall over?