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Title: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on April 14, 2006, 08:11:06 pm
New Neil Young Album (https://www.harpmagazine.com/news/detail.cfm?article=10623)

Quote from: HARP Magazine
[Johnathon] Demme, who filmed the award-winning documentary Neil Young: Heart of Gold, writes in an e-mail, “Neil just finished writing and recording – with no warning – a new album called Living With War. It all happened in three days.” How rock ‘n ‘roll is that?

I just wet myself.

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on April 29, 2006, 12:00:06 am
All ya'lls complaining about Neil Being too blunt with titles like Let's Impeach the President are about to miss a fuckin' killer album.

Go listen to it (http://www.hyfntrak.com/neilyoung2/AFF23130/), or go fuck yourself.  Either one, don't matter.

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: miles on April 29, 2006, 01:04:46 am
Never said I won't listen to it, but I will fuck myself.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: miles on April 29, 2006, 02:56:48 am
The weird thing is that Neil is actually allowing it to be streamed.  I remember reading a petition a few years ago to release On the Beach on CD, and it quoted Neil saying that the low quality of CD audio was the reason it hadn't been released.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on April 29, 2006, 02:57:26 am
I haven't really finished listening to Prairie Wind yet. 

TOO SOON, Neil.

TOO SOON
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on April 29, 2006, 05:01:42 am
I haven't really finished listening to Prairie Wind yet.

I'll never be finished listening to Prarie Wind.

Is so good...

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on April 29, 2006, 05:15:30 am
The weird thing is that Neil is actually allowing it to be streamed.  I remember reading a petition a few years ago to release On the Beach on CD, and it quoted Neil saying that the low quality of CD audio was the reason it hadn't been released.

Think of the stream as akin to hearing it on the radio.  It's gonna be in the stores in May.  I got an e-mail from amazon.com today, guess what, they somehow knew I was a Neil Young Fan.

Ok, so I go to amazon.com and when I get there I realize I don't have Ragged Glory or American Stars and Bars so I bought them instead.

But man, why you gotta send me back to amazon.com for On the Beach?  Haven't I spent enough already?

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: side_show on April 29, 2006, 02:32:45 pm
Hey, my current play (the one that's getting the attention) has thinly veiled attempt to have me meet Neil Young built right into it.  That, or it has the possibility that I will be sued by Neil Young for illegally putting "Helpless" into my script.  No, I kid.  I plan to legally pursue the rights to put part of the song into my play at a pivotal moment.  He is Manitoba's son after all, and if all goes as planned I will meet and hug Neil in two years.  If all goes in a bad way I will have to moderately edit a few scenes in the play. 

Also, Neil Young, along with Crosby Stills and Nash will be performing here in summer, but I'm not going - tickets went on sale today and are already sold out.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: AlohaDawg on May 02, 2006, 12:59:32 am
Hey, my current play (the one that's getting the attention) has thinly veiled attempt to have me meet Neil Young built right into it.  That, or it has the possibility that I will be sued by Neil Young for illegally putting "Helpless" into my script.  No, I kid.  I plan to legally pursue the rights to put part of the song into my play at a pivotal moment.  He is Manitoba's son after all, and if all goes as planned I will meet and hug Neil in two years.  If all goes in a bad way I will have to moderately edit a few scenes in the play petition his estate for it.

Also, Neil Young, along with Crosby Stills and Nash will be performing here in summer, but I'm not going - tickets went on sale today and are already sold out.


All you have to do is wait long enough.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on May 02, 2006, 03:14:10 am
The weird thing is that Neil is actually allowing it to be streamed.  I remember reading a petition a few years ago to release On the Beach on CD, and it quoted Neil saying that the low quality of CD audio was the reason it hadn't been released.

It's like the radio.  To whet your appetite.  So you'll buy.  And it's totally going to work.

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on May 02, 2006, 03:15:15 am
I haven't really finished listening to Prairie Wind yet.

Isn't it good?

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on May 02, 2006, 03:17:11 am
It's funny - I really thought it sucked when I first heard it.  Then he did a whole week on Conan, playing a song or two a night, and I really loved the new ones there.  So I relistened to the album a few times and I think it was my sixth or seventh listen where it really hit me. 

But seriously, I'm still kind of absorbing that one.  I listen to it about once a week.  I'm not quite ready for a new Neil Young album yet.

TOO SOON
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on May 02, 2006, 03:17:48 am
...iif all goes as planned I will meet and hug Neil in two years.

If you accomplish this I will officially idolize you.

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on May 02, 2006, 03:18:33 am
You don't already, Paul?

Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on May 02, 2006, 03:19:45 am
You don't already, Paul?

We're just making it official.

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: miles on May 02, 2006, 04:22:33 am
I do like the new album after hearing over half of it.  Still haven't heard Prairie Wind.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on September 08, 2006, 08:51:20 pm
Okay, so seriously I really needed to come to terms with his previous album before I could even start on this one.

I finally bought Living with War and I'm thinking it's one of his best albums ever.

But is it just me, or is almost every song making allusions to other Neil Young songs?  With some of them I'm singing "Hey Hey My My" or "Keep On Rockin' In The Free World" because the chord progressions are exactly the same, and the melody lines similar but not exact (the Keep on Rockin' one in particular is much slower and in a minor key, but it's obviously the same song) so I'm wondering how much of this is intentional and how much is just Neil Young sounding like Neil Young.

Still, it's brilliant.  "The Restless Consumer" is just amazing.  The whole album sounds restless and urgent.  I'm usually not a fan of sound clips and stuff in songs, but of course the Bush quotes in "Let's Impeach the President" are wholly appropriate.

Neil Young's albums are often angry, or bourne out of sadness and anger, but this is probably his angriest.  Jesus.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on September 08, 2006, 10:44:36 pm
I think he recorded it in an afternoon so maybe he just copped some of his favorite lines from his other songs.  One of my favorite lines from the Greendale album is Grandpa Green singing "That guy singing this song, been doing it a long time.  Is there anything he knows, he ain't said?"   So if he's run out of things to play or say, at least he is aware of it.  Remember he's also the guy that wrote "It's better to burn out than to Fade Away."  And that was 25 years ago.  According to Johnny Rotton, he was over the hill then.

I just got Tonights the Night (Thanks Miles) and there is a chord progression on it that is exactly like one on Prarie Wind.  I can't remember which ones the two similar song are at the moment.  Actually they aren't similar at all, one is about death, the other is about love, but they do share a common chord progression.

He announces at the start of the Year of the hoss album "It's all the same song, they're all the same"

Rock and Roll will never die.

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on September 09, 2006, 05:07:37 am
Into the black.

Yeah, he recorded Living with War over three days, but he wrote the song while on the Prairie Wind tour, so he and his band had a lot of time to practice the new stuff and get it right before going into the studio and recording it.

My favourite R.E.M. album was done the same way - with about half of it actually recorded on the road, with one song being recorded in a locker room bathroom.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: KeithHernandez on September 11, 2006, 08:01:54 am
Which one?
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on September 11, 2006, 03:45:34 pm
The one that was recorded on the road and had a track recorded in a lockerroom bathroom in Philly.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: Drygioni on September 11, 2006, 03:49:05 pm
New Adventures in Hi-fi?
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on September 11, 2006, 03:55:23 pm
Please don't pollute this Neil Young thread with a bunch of REM talk.

Heh heh...

~Paul
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: Drygioni on September 11, 2006, 04:02:12 pm
Can anyone recommend me any Neil Young albums? His music is thoroughly decent from the snippets I've heard. But the guy has released a ton of highly acclaimed albums, and I just know that if I pick one myself it'll be too inaccessible. Bear in mind that I am a product of the '90s; if it ain't something I can enjoy even slightly on the first listen, it can go hang.

Or should I just go for the lily livered option and get a Best Of?

Because really, we don't need REM talk.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on September 11, 2006, 04:11:50 pm
Well, if you're a child of the 90s I'd say try "Sleeps with Angels," his tribute to Kurt Cobain, or "Mirror Ball" where Pearl Jam is his back-up band.

Otherwise, if you want his GOOD albums, start with "Harvest" and then follow that up with "After the Gold Rush," which is arguably his best album.  I think Gold Rush came out just before Harvest, actually, but if it were me I'd start out with great (harvest) and then listen to a bunch of the others before returning finally to Gold Rush and just being ready to die.

Because you're not ready to die until you've heard that album. 

Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: Drygioni on September 11, 2006, 04:15:49 pm
Well, if you're a child of the 90s I'd say try "Sleeps with Angels," his tribute to Kurt Cobain, or "Mirror Ball" where Pearl Jam is his back-up band.

Damn, Jough. I'm not that kind of child. I'd feel vaguely insulted, but the finishing line on that recommendation makes up for it. You get a can.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: pmcd9 on September 11, 2006, 04:22:12 pm
Can anyone recommend me any Neil Young albums? He sounds like an awesome dude and his music is thoroughly decent from the snippets I've heard. But the guy has released a ton of highly acclaimed albums, and I just know that if I pick one myself it'll be too inaccessible. Bear in mind that I am a product of the '90s; if it ain't something I can enjoy even slightly on the first listen, it can go hang.

Based on what I know of you via mix tape I'm not sure what to recommend.  I think his greatest album is After the Gold Rush, but it's mostly accoustic.  Everyone is going to have a different opinion, but After The Gold Rush is also one of his most enduringly popular albums.  Of his more rockin' albums Gosh I don't know, Freedom is pretty damn good.

~Paul

Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: AugustWest on September 11, 2006, 04:25:14 pm
Rust Never Sleeps is another good one.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: side_show on September 11, 2006, 11:58:29 pm
You know what a great starter Neil Young album is?  Neil Young Unplugged.  It's less embarrassing than your standard greatest hits compilation, and, well, I just really enjoy it.  There are moments of raw honesty on that album that still bring me to the brink of tears.  If you can, just listen to it while driving along the prairie, and well, that's Neil Young to me.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: Limmo on September 12, 2006, 02:14:31 am
Can anyone recommend me any Neil Young albums?

You are going to buy a 2-CD set called Decade.  Amazon has it, and a used copy will set you back less than a new single CD. 

Decade is the greatest greatest-hits compilation ever made (http://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/neil_young/decade/).*   You cannot possibly go wrong with it.  It covers all of his different stylistic quirks, and will point you towards the other albums in his catalog you will eventually want.

Decade.   Definitely.

*Except maybe for James Brown's Star Time box set.

Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on September 12, 2006, 05:23:43 am
And if you do buy it, be sure to click on Limmo's link that has his Amazon referrer ID in there.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: KeithHernandez on September 12, 2006, 08:11:22 am
Yea, I would start at Decade, then Harvest, then After the Goldrush.  At this point you will probably want more, and I would recommend Neil Young and On the Beach (heavily, heavily recommended), but everyone's choice will be different after the first three.

Live Rust is fuck*ng awesome as well.
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: Limmo on September 12, 2006, 09:52:34 pm
And if you do buy it, be sure to click on Limmo's link that has his Amazon referrer ID in there.

Did I do something wrong?
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: jough on September 13, 2006, 03:52:05 am
No, I just figured I'd let you know that it did not go unnoticed, slickster. ;)
Title: Re: Neil Young Living with War
Post by: Limmo on September 13, 2006, 10:46:53 pm
You are attributing to me a slickness that I do not really have - I didn't know that there was any kind of benefit to posting an Amazon link.  I just automatically went there and noticed they had a shitload of used copies for ten bucks.

I've altered the original post to remove the Amazon link and include a new one from rateyourmusic, so interested parties can read Decade reviews without any dreaded commercial taint.   

Heh heh, I said "taint."