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Achewood => Achewood => Topic started by: Drygioni on October 05, 2006, 06:33:30 am
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http://charleysmuckles.blogspot.com/2006/10/da-nhoo-jabbah.html (http://charleysmuckles.blogspot.com/2006/10/da-nhoo-jabbah.html)
http://peterhcropes.blogspot.com/2006/10/complicated-gay-man-sold-me-sandwich.html (http://peterhcropes.blogspot.com/2006/10/complicated-gay-man-sold-me-sandwich.html)
http://philippesblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-got-buck.html (http://philippesblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-got-buck.html)
Come on, Onstad. Enough foreshadowing; when does Nice Pete finally get to reveal his inner (presumably gay) feelings and blossom like the true man he is?
Phillipe really called out Onstad on the 'jerk' thing. Way to go, Phillipe.
EDIT: Made links perma.
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I worry that when Nice Pete expresses an interest in a gay man's bottom, he is probably thinking more of barbecue possibilities than traditional man-on-man goings on.
Basically, I feel sorry for what the gay sandwich man might have lined up in his future.
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Come on, Onstad. Enough foreshadowing; when does Nice Pete finally get to reveal his inner (presumably gay) feelings and blossom like the true man he is?
In his very first appearance we learn that Pete is down with men kissing men (http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=04032003) so I don't think that him coming out is such a big deal. But you do have to worry how many pieces sandwich guy is going to end up in.
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Mayonnaise on scrapple?!
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Mayonnaise on scrapple?!
FILLER
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Mayonnaise on scrapple?!
People actually consuming scrapple?!
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If I didnt have the internet I'd have guessed that scrapple would be some sort of apple-based drink or breakfast cereal.
Scrapple(tm) - Chock-full of Scrunchy Yummy Dried Apple Fragments!
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People actually consuming scrapple?!
No, no, good scrapple is really good. You have to go buy it from a farmer's market or a real butcher, not the supermarket. But mayonnaise on it? I mean, it doesn't have enough fat in it already?
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People actually consuming scrapple?!
Apparently this is not uncommon. I have a vegetarian friend originally from Pennsylvania who has confessed to only missing scrapple out of the entire meat pantheon, and I believe her. I have yet to work up the nerve to try it, but I may be too old to make a successful scrapple introduction.
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I am from south central PA, went to college in Lancaster itself. While I don't partake myself, I can tell you definitively: HELL YES people eat scrapple, and actually enjoy it.
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As a Philadelphian, I have been eating and enjoying scrapple my entire life. It is my favourite breakfast meat next to bacon, and I seriously have already looked at ways to get scrapple shipped to D.C. and Chicago.
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I'm also from PA. Maybe I don't have the connection because I just don't dig on pork to begin with. I do miss hot dog sauce and pierogi, though.
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I'm also from PA. Maybe I don't have the connection because I just don't dig on pork to begin with. I do miss hot dog sauce and pierogi, though.
These must be western PA things, then. I had never heard of pierogies until I got to college. And I don't know of this hot dog sauce you speak of. Scrapple is more of an Amish-influenced eastern/central PA delicacy.
(Also, shooting up a schoolhouse is bad enough under any circumstances, but who the HELL has a grudge against little Amish girls? Criminy, they have to be digging a new, deeper level of Hell for that guy.)
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Jough, move to DC then - you won't need to have scrapple shipped. I can direct you to a Pennsylvania farmer's market outside the city where you can buy it.
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What the hell is hot dog sauce? Must be from that unfortunate western expanse of the state.
What I'll miss most about Philly is the pizza - not that I eat that much pizza these days. Yes, I know Chicago is famous for its pizza, but it's that deep dish kind which is more like a large hot pocket than actual pizza. I have heard talk that there is a New York style pizzeria downtown, though, and I will judge it harshly should I move there.
Anyway, yeah. Blogs.
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What the hell is hot dog sauce? Must be from that unfortunate western expanse of the state.
Hot dog sauce is a red sauce that one puts on a hot dog that may or may not replace ketchup depending on the stand. Frequently with ground beef in it (though not nearly the amount in chili or sloppy joes). It's mainly found at window-service hot dog stands and many people have one favorite and won't eat any others if they can help it. And if they do end up eating from another place they'll complain the whole time about how Nick's is so much better and why did we go to Ed's. These stands are also where I discovered the concept of "everything and relish." I guess relish is sufficiently unpopular that it's the same as ordering a pizza with "everything and anchovies."
I don't know what that horrid substance they serve in Chicago is, but pizza it ain't.
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As a Philadelphian, I have been eating and enjoying scrapple my entire life. It is my favourite breakfast meat next to bacon, and I seriously have already looked at ways to get scrapple shipped to D.C. and Chicago.
Dude, but it's grey!
Closest we have I guess is corned beef or spam, neither of which I really touch, so Scrapple just scares me, and I've only just come across it's existence today (I think through something random too).
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I had a little pressed corned beef today. It's awesome.
Scrapple is only grey until you cook it, when it turns a satisfying brown. It should be crispy on the outside and still a little mushy on the inside.
What makes it mushy is cornmeal. It is basically scraps of meat mixed with cornmeal so that it holds together. Ever had a corndog? Imagine if they mixed the meat with the outer covering.
Welcome to scrapple.
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I need to eat this, now.
And you, Venuses and Cupids, need to eat the new (culinary) love of my life-- st Louis pizza from Imo's.
People who told me to be sure and try this, I will wire you the accustomed Fee.
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who the HELL has a grudge against little Amish girls?
Fred Phelps (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200610/NAT20061004a.html) apparently.
Sorry, totally ot, carry on.
And until I read this thread I thought scrapple was some sort of apple sauce people had on sandwiches, creepy. If it's anything like corned beef I don't want to know about it, that stuff is rank.
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I need to eat this, now.
And you, Venuses and Cupids, need to eat the new (culinary) love of my life-- st Louis pizza from Imo's.
People who told me to be sure and try this, I will wire you the accustomed Fee.
I'm jealous. Imo's is great.
It's totally counter-intuitive that it should be. Greasy cheese, thin sauce, flavorless crackery crust. But somehow, some way, it's just right.
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I ate half a pie.
(for me, that is a big deal.)
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Freshman Fifteen, this here's theInevitable. tI, here's FF.
You'll be good friends, I'm sure.
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dude, I fuckin' hope so. I've been trying to gain weight since I was in the womb.
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dude, I fuckin' hope so. I've been trying to gain weight since I was in the womb.
Hush, you.
Also, a lot of girls like skinny guys.
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It is important to eat Imo's luke-warm or cold. Eating at the restaurant is no good. A major part of the appeal is the gummy texture of the provel. If it's fresh from the oven, it just tastes like American cheese. Their salads are also worth trying--completely unhealthy, but delicious. Iceburg lettuce with loads of provel and a sugary italian dressing.
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Geeze, when I was in school all we had was Gumby's Pizza: The Pizza Place So Shitty We Only Open in College Towns! Although you do have to admire a place calling their signature item The Gumby Dammit!
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Greeks make the best pizza.
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Greeks make the best pizza.
This is so wrong, my grandmother is spinning in her grave.
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wait, eat it cold? why! It's so good warm!
a-so: linnea, I am so aware of this. I tell my mom that I am trying to gain weight, but if I actually gain weight in a way that I can tell (ie: "I can't see my ribs! My stomach isn't perfectly flat, or even concave!") I get all weird. Luckily, I rarely gain weight permanently. I will, though, once i get off my ass and gain some muscle. which is, in my experience, what 50% of girls who pretend to like skinny boys will end up telling you to do. saying "oh, so we can tell each other stuff like that now? By the way, you could stand to (insert damaging personal remark about weight or other element of personal appearance)" is not an acceptable comeback, no matter how upsetting this is. apparently.
(clarification: I was never stupid enough to actually say that. I just really really wanted to, at the time.)
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The world could be powered by the graves El Jefe has spun.
This has the potential to generate even more electricity than the mythical Buttered Cat Array. If only we could combine them.
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wait, eat it cold? why! It's so good warm!
a-so: linnea, I am so aware of this. I tell my mom that I am trying to gain weight, but if I actually gain weight in a way that I can tell (ie: "I can't see my ribs! My stomach isn't perfectly flat, or even concave!") I get all weird. Luckily, I rarely gain weight permanently. I will, though, once i get off my ass and gain some muscle. which is, in my experience, what 50% of girls who pretend to like skinny boys will end up telling you to do. saying "oh, so we can tell each other stuff like that now? By the way, you could stand to (insert damaging personal remark about weight or other element of personal appearance)" is not an acceptable comeback, no matter how upsetting this is. apparently.
(clarification: I was never stupid enough to actually say that. I just really really wanted to, at the time.)
I am not a fan of cold pizza. That just sounds wrong.
theinev: WTF do those girls think? Where in hell do they get off saying stuff like that? Dayumn, just strut your skinny ass down the road and be happy, because people who think it's okay to say shit like that are not polite at all.
I remember being jealous of a friend in college who was very thin. She was a ballet dancer and although she didn't have an eating disorder, she did not have a big appetite at all (hence the skinniness). I remember saying something about her being "scrawny" and she got really upset. She said, "That really hurts my feelings, dammit! Do you know how many times I got called flat-chested or skin-ande-bones in school? How would you feel if I said you were too fat?"
I was shocked, because I thought that skinny people were constantly gloating over their scrawniness as proof of being more godly, having so much self control, etc. I never stopped to think that the same jackass schoolkids who made fun of me for being chubby were probably the same ones who made fun of her (and Eva Longoria, and Tyra Banks, etc.) for being "too skinny". You just can't please everyone.
My ex was a very skinny, wiry guy, and he was always fretting that his arms and pecs and biceps weren't "big enough". I thought he looked awesome the way he was, and I told him that constantly. If you have some stupid bitch telling you to "gain some muscle" tell her that she'd be happier with some dumb meathead, and dump her. Then find a cute emo/hipster girl who loves your skinny ass as it should be loved!
This goes out to everyone who has ever had someone tell them that they have a physical shortcoming, like being "too tall", "too short", "too heavy", etc. You don't have to put up with that bullshit.
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Seriously, Linnea. Seriously.
It has always amazed me how many of my friends who would scream bloody murder if anyone made fat jokes feel free to make jokes about, and sometimes criticize the health of, skinny people quite thoroughly. Most recently, they were the ones gloating about the European models not allowed to walk the runway because of a low BMI -- as if they didn't process that this was preventing women from doing their jobs because of weight discrimination, exactly as if they had been kept from walking by a high BMI. (I would have had no problem with it had it been a genuine crackdown on eating disorders and poor health, but doing it by setting a gateway BMI is just bizarrely arbitrary.)
... That example rambled towards the end, but I think my point is that, if we want to end size discrimination, we have to avoid discriminating against anyone -- even those we assume are "safe targets" because they're more generally socially accepted. It kind of saddens me how many people don't seem to grasp that.
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I think that story about the models is completely different. Those women aren't naturally that thin, they are basically forced to refrain from eating to keep their jobs. Wasn't the idea to try to change an industry that required them to do that?
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linn-- I am no longer dating that lady. she was crazy.
the lady who I am "with" now is much nicer. we are a pair of awkwardly skinny people, and it is good.
I feel like we end up having this converstion a lot. because I was about to start singing "closer to the bone, sweeter is the meat..." but I think I've done that before.
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I feel like we end up having this converstion a lot. because I was about to start singing "closer to the bone, sweeter is the meat..." but I think I've done that before.
The nature of this board is that every good, and many "good" conversations, will keep happening over and over. So, what do people think about cat c*ckes? I hear they're barbed!
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Disregarding cat c*ckes for a moment!
I do agree that it is important to be happy with how you are. However, I don't think people are really quite so static as to consider their weight part of who the really are. A skinny dude could get into rock climbing and suddenly become slightly muscular. Or an overweight person could discover a love for soccer and lose a lot of it. I wouldn't say you'd have lost yourself in the process.
As for me, I am torn between being a computer programmer and loving the outdoors. So my school/career/hobby inspires a sedentary lifestyle, while I love to climb trees, walls, etc., and find adventures in the forests and mountains. As a result, I am dissatisfied with my current physique, because I know if I were slimmer I would find a lot more enjoyment in such wilderness tomfoolery. At the same time, I have people telling me that I am perfect as I am, but that is blatently false! Granted, I did approach almost-skinniness at the end of high school, and I think I look like an utter dork in pictures taken at those times, but I would gladly choose ability over appearance, so that is entirely irrelevant.
What is my point? Ah, that changing yourself is not always bad, and that it is a remarkably vain person who will not admit that they could use some change. You just have to find a middle ground between confidence and utility.
Ok, now for the cat c*ck discussions.
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I think that story about the models is completely different. Those women aren't naturally that thin, they are basically forced to refrain from eating to keep their jobs. Wasn't the idea to try to change an industry that required them to do that?
It's not weight discrimination. The whole thing that initiated the Madrid ban was the death of a 22-year-old Uruguayan model, Luisel Ramos. She died of a heart attack during a fashion show because her agent had told her that if she could lose more weight, that her career would really take off and she could become a supermodel. When she died she had been eating nothing but negative-calorie vegetables like celery and Diet Coke for WEEKS.
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Hey, remember the blogs?
I am pleased by this development regarding the name of the pub. I think The Dude and Catastrophe would make a good tshirt.
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What I'll miss most about Philly is the pizza - not that I eat that much pizza these days. Yes, I know Chicago is famous for its pizza, but it's that deep dish kind which is more like a large hot pocket than actual pizza. I have heard talk that there is a New York style pizzeria downtown, though, and I will judge it harshly should I move there.
As a Chicagoan, I (along with many others) firmly believe that the best pizza in the city is Phil's, from exactly the kind of hole-in-the-wall southside pizza joint the best pizza in the city should be from. Not deep dish, not New York, just amazing.
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Chicagoans are coming out of the woodwork on here.
Did I tell the board I have secured an apartment and will be moving to Chicago in less than two weeks?
Yes.
Anyway, now that there are (at least) four of us, we shall have to do a proper Chicago Achethon before the year is out.
I actually like the Chicago deep dish pizza thing, but I can't really eat it very often (like at all) and when I do I doubt it will slake my pizza jones.
But I'll be back to Philly to visit often, I'm sure, and will enjoy the comforts of Philly foods upon my return.
I mean, it's not like Chicago doesn't have incredible food. It has everything Philly has and then some. It's just that in Chicago it's a little different.