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Trivial Pursuits => History => Topic started by: Nabubrush on March 19, 2011, 05:44:01 pm
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Things sure are going well all the way around lately, aren't they?
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The Telegraph's page (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/) on Libya.
Al Jazeera live blog (http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-19).
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U.S. launches first missiles against Gadhafi forces (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/19/libya.civil.war/)
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I remain convinced that this is still a horrible idea.
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I remain convinced that this is still a horrible idea.
I am with you, I think, on this.
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I am so ambivalent on the subject that I wrote a parody of "Lydia the Tattooed Lady" about Lybia.
This is what I do with my time now, apparently.
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I am so ambivalent on the subject that I wrote a parody of "Lydia the Tattooed Lady" about Lybia.
This is what I do with my time now, apparently.
Yeah bro, mass murders by a government on its own people are totally not worth paying attention to. I mean, everything worked out with Hitler, right? We should totally make jokes about the guy.
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The idea of getting Qaddafy outta there is fine. I am all for that idea.
But holy shit, there are all kinds of ways the fall-out could end up worse instead of better for Libyans and for us and for everybody.
Not to mention that for all our talk about America not being at war against Islam in general, man, it would sure like a move toward being at war with Islam in general.
Just because something awful is going on doesn't mean we can't feel oogy about the way that fixing it might end up making thing worse in the long run.
Just look at... everything in the world since World War One. Basically everything that has happened since the end of World War One. Look at... that stuff.
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You are ideologically schizophrenic.
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Aw, you two. You haven't had sloppy make outs in such a long time.
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I remain convinced that this is still a horrible idea.
This is definitely not encouraging.
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Yeah bro, mass murders by a government on its own people are totally not worth paying attention to.
As a side note, I think maybe AC doesn't know the proper definition of the word ambivalent. Ambivalent =/= disinterested, although that's a very common misinterpretation of the word. Being ambivalent, in the proper definition of the word, is about being deeply conflicted about something, which is very, very different from thinking something is "not worth paying attention to."
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Yes, I definitely meant ambivalent in the classic deeply-conflicted sense.
I both despise what's going on over there right now with a peoples' revolution being brutally crushed and I am also frightened with the track record of Western intervention anywhere other than other parts of The West, what with how it almost always ends up even worse than before except with a bunch of people dead along the way.
I take the idea of being ideologically schizoid as a compliment. That means that I'm not so married to ideology that I can't consider what's humane to the greatest number of people in the long-view of history.
What is ultimately humane is more important than sticking to a defined ideology as though it is a liferaft upon the deep murderous sea that is reality.
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Things are not yet so bad that they can't get worse. I guess this is a good thing.
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Oh man, am I about to say "What Ash said" again??
I mean, on the one hand A-Cap is right. But on the other, I don't see how we can intervene every time a dictator does something horrible to his own people. There is too much horribleness in the world for one country to be responsible for stopping it all.
Also, do some people really think that "ambivalent" means "indifferent"? Because if so, I am going to pushed over the edge into being one of those crazy people who rail against the unstoppable changes in the language.
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If we can't fuck around in other people's business, what's the point of being American?
Seriously, if we spent half the time, energy and money trying to help people that we do telling them how to run shit and trying to blow their asses apart, things would be going a lot better and people might not be so fuck*ng pissed off at us all the time.
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Also, do some people really think that "ambivalent" means "indifferent"? Because if so, I am going to pushed over the edge into being one of those crazy people who rail against the unstoppable changes in the language.
STEP AWAY FROM THE LEDGE.
I think that it's one of those words that people don't use incorrectly as much as don't understand it when they come across it. It doesn't seem to get used all that often by people who don't know what it means, at least from my observation.
Not like "begging the question," which I'm convinced is understood by only a handful of people, but gets used all the time. Though I'll forgive Tom Waits for "the question begs the answer," even though it plays off the incorrect use of the term. But there isn't much for which I wouldn't forgive Tom Waits.
Also, I hate it when people correct me when I say "he hanged himself" or tell me that I mispronounce Nietzsche.
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I'm hearing more and more that "begs the question" is so prevalent in its incorrect usage that the new usage is now considered acceptable as a bit of descriptive grammar. I'm not really comfortable with that, and I'm pretty much a descriptivist.
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My main problem with that is that there are other phrases, like "raises the question" or "prompts the question," that work so much better. "Begs the question" is awkward and doesn't really make sense when used in that way. I think it mainly bugs me because, much like irregardless, I think its misuse comes from people trying to sound smarter. I hear it on NPR all the time.
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I'm with you on that. I'm with you on the whole "begs the question" subject. I guess it's strange that I would have much of a problem with this, considering I could not care any less whether "ain't" is acceptable usage (well, except for wondering what "ai not" means).
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TOUAMB: Where world affairs will always take a back seat to prescriptive vs. descriptive grammar.
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It didn't completely swap until the second page - I'd say that's progress.
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TOUAMB: Where world affairs will always take a back seat to prescriptive vs. descriptive grammar.
CANNED.
That's why you're the Doc, Doc.
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I'm pushing Aiiiiight real hard as a replacement for alright. Does that make me a descriptividy or a prescritionist?
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I'm pushing Aiiiiight real hard as a replacement for alright. Does that make me a descriptividy or a prescritionist?
That might make you RZA.
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All the world's ills can be solved with proper communication.
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All the world's ills can be solved with proper communication.
As long as it's the right kind (http://www.allmusic.com/album/ill-communication-r194755/review).
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Yeah, communication at about 2800 feet per second.
a FB friend made posted a status update about culling her friend-list and wishing there was a 'delete friend' button in real life. i replied that the trigger of a gun is that thing.
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Guy I supervise up here (not a FB friend) posted that he wanted to go into the street with his shotgun and execute every liberal he saw. That makes it fun to work with him.
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Guy I supervise up here (not a FB friend) posted that he wanted to go into the street with his shotgun and execute every liberal he saw. That makes it fun to work with him.
I am far more worried about something like this, on a day-to-day basis, than I am about an al Qaeda-sponsored international terrorist attack.
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Fortunately I live in hipster-slacker-pothead central and work in a place where firearms aren't allowed.