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Title: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on March 28, 2011, 02:17:43 am
So, I have this blog (http://professional-detours.blogspot.com/). I have had a few people flake out on me in quick succession, and I need someone to interview (by phone) ASAP. (Preferably 2 someones, because I don't have anyone lined up for next week, either, and apparently I can't count on my supposed co-writer to get her stories up on time, or at all.) I know some of you have volunteered, and I've talked to at least one of you off-board, but to make it easier on myself, I thought I'd start a thread to keep it all in once place.

So if you're interested, please post here a brief (4 - 8 line) description of some interesting aspect(s) of your career path, current or former job(s), etc. and a rough timetable for when you'd be available to spend an hour or so with me on the phone. I will choose two based on availability and balance with the three interviews I've already posted (e.g. I don't really need another computer programmer again so soon) and if you don't make it in this time I'll keep you on file for a later date.

If I can get a couple interviews done this week I will...uh...love you forever? Give you tiny cans of Dr. Pepper?

Please and thank you.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: AugustWest on March 28, 2011, 03:11:16 am
I'm certainly willing to give you the time, but I don't know if my career could be considered a detour.  I went to law school and I practice law.  But I have meandered around within the profession a good bit.  If you'd told me I'd end up doing tax law when I was in law school, I'd have laughed at you.

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I will...uh...love you forever?

Long time would be sufficient.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: littlefallsmets on March 28, 2011, 04:11:25 am
Some day, when I've figured out what the hell to do with my life, I will be happy to help you with this, jayelle, but...

Right now it ain't applicable to a dude.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: pmcd9 on March 28, 2011, 07:14:01 am
You expressed interest in doing a story on my father.  He is available for an interview whenever you need him.  Info on his career can be found here (http://www.paulmcrae.com/siteBuilding/mcraeCombustion/pages/aboutUs.php).
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: pmcd9 on March 28, 2011, 07:40:07 am
After reading your post about Danny Dunston I think my career path might be of interest to your readers.  It's in a similar vein, but not the same at all.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on March 28, 2011, 04:42:17 pm
I'm here for you. I'm not sure how much is interesting, but on the other hand there's a thread around here somewhere specifically about my particular picaresque. Crap jobs, off to uni, major based on an off-the-cuff remark an advisor made, never worked in my field, currently working as an engineer in the frozen wastes. An interview would probably be easier once I'm home (I head home the first of April) but whatever helps you out I can probably swing.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: theinevitable on March 28, 2011, 04:46:16 pm
sorry that I flaked out on giving you an interview, JL. I'm sure everyone was excited to hear the story of how I got my exciting career.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on March 28, 2011, 04:48:17 pm
sorry that I flaked out on giving you an interview, JL. I'm sure everyone was excited to hear the story of how I got my exciting career.

Don't be that guy, inev. Don't be a flake. Inquiring minds are waiting to hear your story.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: theinevitable on March 28, 2011, 05:03:14 pm
Now I just have to turn his, Ray style, into my motivation to get an exciting job.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on March 28, 2011, 06:57:24 pm
I think Nabu might be my best bet for the moment, since August's might be similar to the one I posted last week, and Paul thinks his is a lot like the one I posted 2 weeks ago. I could also do Paul's dad, which sounds really fascinating, but I have to confess I'm more comfortable with Nabu because I (sort of) know him.

Paul, if you can convince me your dad isn't scary, I'll interview him first and wait 'til Nabu gets home. I would like to interview him this week but honestly my schedule is so full the only times I have are in the evenings after the kids to go bed. So, like, 8 or 9 PM EST. During a normal week I have mornings available, but this week Pedro is having minor surgery on Wednesday so the only morning I can count on is tomorrow between 9 and 10:30 EST. Is that too soon? If so, I will figure out something else for this Friday and I can talk to him next week. You can call or text me (I think you have my number still? If not, PM me) and we can figure out scheduling.

My theoretical co-writer supposedly did her first interview over the weekend that was supposed to go up Saturday, but who knows if that's going to happen. If she did the interview, I can post her piece this coming Friday. My photographer who flaked out last week is set up for an interview tomorrow night, so if she makes that I can post that the following week and it will give me a little more time to get my ducks in a row with you guys. But I feel like I need a backup plan because I have been let down by a lot of people this week and I'm not inclined to trust them when, quite honestly, there's no reason for them to be invested in this project (other than free publicity, which, apparently, is not motivating for an already-successful, well-known local wedding photographer.)

I think Wombat is still up for a mid-April piece to coincide with the publication of her first book, right? If so, and if I get a response from the professional video game competitor, I might be set until May.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: wombat on March 28, 2011, 07:32:20 pm
End of April is better for me. Actually, beginning of May. I am speaking on a panel at a mystery conference last weekend in April and maybe there will be some funny stories of my huge success there, or not.

An old acquaintance of mine just emailed me with a long story of what she's done in the 25 years since I saw her last, which sounds like a good subject, but I think it would be better to wait to ask until you have more material up, so the blog looks more impressive when I say "hey go look at this blog, want to be interviewed?"  That being said, I don't know Paul's dad, but just on general principles I can't imagine any dad of Paul's being scary, and you had better start getting up the nerve to interview people you don't know or the project isn't going to last very long.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: AugustWest on March 28, 2011, 07:59:49 pm
That being said, I don't know Paul's dad, but just on general principles I can't imagine any dad of Paul's being scary,

This. 
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on March 28, 2011, 08:17:39 pm
you had better start getting up the nerve to interview people you don't know or the project isn't going to last very long.

Also, this.

I know! At one point, I looked at Pedro and said, "Why on earth did I chose a blog topic that requires me to be social?" But it is all about personal growth, I guess.

I have a call scheduled with my cousin for tonight (B.A. in abnormal psych, worked in the psych ward of a hospital, went to law school, joined a practice, started her own practice, became well-known in the community through volunteering at her daughter's school, ended up getting appointed to serve as a trustee in her township & is now a full-time public official). Should be interesting. She's a talker.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: wombat on March 28, 2011, 09:02:42 pm
I have always hated making phone calls. Hate, hate, hate. So of course my first major writing job in my life required making phone interviews. Lots of them. At least three for each 800 word article. Maybe 5% of the time I went out and covered a story in person, but the rest was phone interviews.

What I found was that interviewing people isn't that much like being social. It's not like being at a party. You're not trying to make small talk, having to come up with some topic out of nowhere that you might both be able to talk about. It's not that kind of improvisation without a net feeling that we introverts have in social situations.  Instead you have a defined subject, defined questions you need to get answers to (although don't forget to be open to answers that you didn't think to ask for). You don't have to worry you're boring the other person or whatever because you're not doing the talking. Most people love to talk about themselves and have someone hang on their every word.

So I recommend that you just think of this as something different. It's not socializing, it's a job extracting stuff from people. You'll learn how best to basically manipulate people to get their best stories out of them. Which might actually help you fake being social as a side benefit, but basically, you can do it by analyzing your experiences and discovering what works to get information out of people, even if you have no intuitive grasp of human socialization. This was my experience, anyway.


Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on March 28, 2011, 09:04:40 pm
I plan on our phone call going well enough that you look forward to continuing this experiment.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: pmcd9 on March 28, 2011, 09:21:58 pm
Paul, if you can convince me your dad isn't scary, I'll interview him first and wait 'til Nabu gets home. I would like to interview him this week but honestly my schedule is so full the only times I have are in the evenings after the kids to go bed. So, like, 8 or 9 PM EST. During a normal week I have mornings available, but this week Pedro is having minor surgery on Wednesday so the only morning I can count on is tomorrow between 9 and 10:30 EST. Is that too soon? If so, I will figure out something else for this Friday and I can talk to him next week. You can call or text me (I think you have my number still? If not, PM me) and we can figure out scheduling

My dad is super friendly and easy to talk to. Just look at that sweet face (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmcd9/2369886641/).  I'll run it by him to make sure he is free, but I'm thinking that tomorrow morning would be just fine.  I'll get back to you shortly.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on March 29, 2011, 01:07:09 am
Paul did get back to me; we'll be doing an interview next week. He was willing to talk to me tonight, but between getting supper on the table and prepping for my other interview tonight (my cousin came through FTW) I didn't have time. But I a super-excited to get the underway.

I know that interviewing is very different from normal socializing, I think that's why I can do it. But the part I have trouble with is asking people to let me interview them. That feels very much like asking for a favor, and I have trouble asking anyone for anything, at all, ever.

I'm getting better at it, though. I've discovered that, indeed, people do love to talk about (and promote) themselves, given half a chance. The trick is pinning them down to a particular time and place -- that's the part that requires me to go slightly beyond the bounds of what I would consider "pushy" (but what I think most people would call "persistent").
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: wombat on March 29, 2011, 02:26:29 am
That is something that you do have to be persistent about. Just remember that they have a lot of other pressures and deadlines in their lives and as much as they might like the free publicity, it doesn't matter to them if your article never gets written nearly as much as it matters to you. It's inevitably going to be lower on their list, so it is your job to follow up until you pin them down.

Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on March 29, 2011, 02:58:42 am
I definitely don't get enough publicity, so any amount is much appreciated.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: AugustWest on March 29, 2011, 04:16:05 am
What I found was that interviewing people isn't that much like being social. It's not like being at a party. You're not trying to make small talk, having to come up with some topic out of nowhere that you might both be able to talk about. It's not that kind of improvisation without a net feeling that we introverts have in social situations.  Instead you have a defined subject, defined questions you need to get answers to (although don't forget to be open to answers that you didn't think to ask for). You don't have to worry you're boring the other person or whatever because you're not doing the talking. Most people love to talk about themselves and have someone hang on their every word.

So I recommend that you just think of this as something different. It's not socializing, it's a job extracting stuff from people. You'll learn how best to basically manipulate people to get their best stories out of them. Which might actually help you fake being social as a side benefit, but basically, you can do it by analyzing your experiences and discovering what works to get information out of people, even if you have no intuitive grasp of human socialization. This was my experience, anyway.



This is a good analysis.  Interviews are conversations with an objective.  However, the social skills side of it helps get people to take the time to talk to you, and to encourage them to open up.  As in most things, you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.  You're non-judgmental and just listening.  Also, the shutting up and letting them talk thing works, sometimes.

Listen to Terry Groce on Fresh Aire.  She's one of the best interviewers I've ever heard.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on March 29, 2011, 01:40:26 pm
Yes, Terry Groce. She is such a great interviewer, you almost never hear her voice. I like that.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I did learn basic interview techniques, you know, in Journalism school, but they focused an awful lot on writing good questions.

Still, I think I am a fairly good interviewer, because I do write good questions, but I also am good about being flexible and not just sticking to the list when it's obvious there are much more interesting places to go. The hardest part is keeping my subjects on topic, but that's easy to do with careers because talking about what you do or have done for a living is a great way to talk about yourself without getting too intensely personal.

So I interviewed my cousin last night, I'm scheduled to do the photographer tonight (keep your fingers crossed), Paul's dad is next Monday and -- when it rains, it pours -- the professional video game competitor emailed me this morning and promised her replies "today or tomorrow."

So I guess I won't throw in the towel just yet.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on March 29, 2011, 05:25:46 pm
Yes, Terry Groce. She is such a great interviewer, you almost never hear her voice. I like that.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I did learn basic interview techniques, you know, in Journalism school, but they focused an awful lot on writing good questions.

Still, I think I am a fairly good interviewer, because I do write good questions, but I also am good about being flexible and not just sticking to the list when it's obvious there are much more interesting places to go. The hardest part is keeping my subjects on topic, but that's easy to do with careers because talking about what you do or have done for a living is a great way to talk about yourself without getting too intensely personal.

So I interviewed my cousin last night, I'm scheduled to do the photographer tonight (keep your fingers crossed), Paul's dad is next Monday and -- when it rains, it pours -- the professional video game competitor emailed me this morning and promised her replies "today or tomorrow."

So I guess I won't throw in the towel just yet.

Do let me know what time/date would work best for you - I've got some, ah, projects lined up for this time home.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on March 29, 2011, 07:19:44 pm
I'll let you know. Looks like I might not need you until May, if the people I've got signed up come through this time.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on March 29, 2011, 07:20:34 pm
I'll let you know. Looks like I might not need you until May, if the people I've got signed up come through this time.

Ok. I'm doing some schedule-swapping around there somewhere, so we'll need to work out a time.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on May 18, 2011, 04:36:51 pm
So, looks like I need someone for next week. Could one of youse guys who volunteered earlier do an interview either by email (I can send out the list of questions today) or by phone tomorrow morning between 9 and 10:30 EST, or any evening except Friday (including tonight) between 8 and 10 EST? I could also do basically any time on Saturday or after noon on Sunday. I like to allow an hour but it normally doesn't take that long.

I am posting on Mondays now so I would like to have the interview done by suppertime (6ish EST) on Sunday. If nobody's free, don't sweat it -- I'll figure out something with somebody local.

Thanks!
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on May 18, 2011, 10:21:49 pm
So, looks like I need someone for next week. Could one of youse guys who volunteered earlier do an interview either by email (I can send out the list of questions today) or by phone tomorrow morning between 9 and 10:30 EST, or any evening except Friday (including tonight) between 8 and 10 EST? I could also do basically any time on Saturday or after noon on Sunday. I like to allow an hour but it normally doesn't take that long.

I am posting on Mondays now so I would like to have the interview done by suppertime (6ish EST) on Sunday. If nobody's free, don't sweat it -- I'll figure out something with somebody local.

Thanks!

I could do Thursday night or by email. Phone would probably work better - or at least I'm thinking I'll come off better. Let me know if nobody else bit.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on May 19, 2011, 12:48:27 pm
Not yet.

Let's do this: PM me your preferred email address and I'll send you my list of questions, and you can send me the nuts and bolts type stuff via email. Then we can schedule a call if you want to have a chat as well.

Sound good?
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on May 19, 2011, 02:40:44 pm
Not yet.

Let's do this: PM me your preferred email address and I'll send you my list of questions, and you can send me the nuts and bolts type stuff via email. Then we can schedule a call if you want to have a chat as well.

Sound good?

Okey-dokey. Actually, my schedule has tightened up, so this would maybe be better.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Nabubrush on May 22, 2011, 06:17:39 pm
I hope you can make something out of that.
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: jay-ell on May 23, 2011, 01:58:05 pm
I did! Let me know if you're not thrilled with it -- I sort of phoned it in due to lack of time & other pressures this weekend, but I'm happy to make adjustments if I skipped over anything important or got any of the details wrong.

Thanks, though. I think it's interesting, and especially with the Deepwater Horizon spill in recent memory, I think a lot of people will be curious about what goes on in an oilfield. (I took pains not to mention your company by name, BTW. Just in case.)
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: smick on May 25, 2011, 06:30:03 pm
This isn't about Jay-ell's blog, but I figured it made more sense to post it in here than make a whole new post.  Feel free to "mod the fuck out of 'em Philippe" if I am wrong.

I decided to start blogging my TL;DR feelings about my current comedy undertakings over at http://footsoretramp.tumblr.com/ instead of tossing my walls of text into the TODAY I'M GONNA thread.

(Footsore Tramps is from H.G. Wells - The Time Machine, and was going to be my band name, but I was never good enough musically to be in a band, I had a whole bit about it that I culled from last night.   So it was still kicking around when I made the tumblr.)
Title: Re: My Blog
Post by: Carlos del Vaca on May 25, 2011, 07:33:40 pm
RSS'd!