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Title: Interesting...
Post by: AugustWest on June 13, 2013, 05:11:47 pm
Saw this (http://sorrycomics.blogspot.com/2013/06/cars-are-bugs.html) on Reddit.  Disturbing.
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Post by: jaydub on June 13, 2013, 07:46:25 pm
Just try not to think at all...
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Post by: pmcd9 on June 14, 2013, 05:33:17 am
Very provocative.
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Post by: littlefallsmets on June 15, 2013, 07:07:07 pm
I always thought of cars as red blood cells and we are the oxygen that bonds to them.

The organism we're in the vascular system of is some kind of surface parasitic infection on the Earth, I guess. The world-wide wart.
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Post by: Doc on June 16, 2013, 11:14:38 am
It worries me that so many people's view of us as a species is overwhelmingly negative.
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Post by: Arachno-capitalist on June 16, 2013, 03:19:40 pm
It worries me that so many people's view of us as a species is overwhelmingly negative.
Worries you how? As a species we've done some pretty amazing things.

My beef with this strip is when he starts to talk about how we will use the last drop of fossil fuels. That event will never happen. We will never use the 'last drop' of fossil fuels. We innovate ourselves out of crisis.
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Post by: theinevitable on June 16, 2013, 04:52:50 pm
lol
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Post by: littlefallsmets on June 16, 2013, 06:31:29 pm
Oh, there are lots of fossil fuels left... trapped in shales and tar sands that are insanely expensive to extract and ruin whole states worth of land to take out.

So yeah, I mean, there's lots more fossil fuels. But as it gets harder to extract, it will only serve to pollute and concentrate wealth exponentially more as we go.

It would be better if we COULD run out.
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Post by: littlefallsmets on June 16, 2013, 08:53:48 pm
By which I meant "then we'd have to get serious about solar and hydro and wind power and not be a bunch of goddamned savages who will always invade and/or strip mine away our problems."
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Post by: pmcd9 on June 17, 2013, 12:09:54 am
I'm with ACap on this one. And yeah, hydro is a non starter because we'll run out of water before we run out of oil.
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Post by: KeithHernandez on June 17, 2013, 12:13:12 am
There is a difference between water and affordable, safe drinking water, FYI.  But yeah, we are going to run out of affordable, safe drinking water long before oil.  Unsure how it effects hydro tho.
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Post by: Arachno-capitalist on June 17, 2013, 02:08:08 am
There is a difference between water and affordable, safe drinking water, FYI.  But yeah, we are going to run out of affordable, safe drinking water long before oil.  Unsure how it effects hydro tho.

The thing about water is that it literally falls from the sky.

So yeah, I mean, there's lots more fossil fuels. But as it gets harder to extract, it will only serve to pollute and concentrate wealth exponentially more as we go.

I'm unopposed to wealth flowing to the smartest guys in the room.
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Post by: jaydub on June 17, 2013, 02:16:58 am
Maybe in your neck of the woods.  The Colorado river is a nice example of how complicated managing a natural resource is.  And there is still none left to actually flow into the Sea of Cortez.  Its a weird thing to watch the churning of the enormous quantities of water at the foot of Hoover Dam and realize that literally NONE of it will make it all the way to sea.
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Post by: Arachno-capitalist on June 17, 2013, 02:22:01 am
Maybe in your neck of the woods.  The Colorado river is a nice example of how complicated managing a natural resource is.  And there is still none left to actually flow into the Sea of Cortez.  Its a weird thing to watch the churning of the enormous quantities of water at the foot of Hoover Dam and realize that literally NONE of it will make it all the way to sea.

Here is where we agree.
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Post by: theinevitable on June 17, 2013, 04:02:53 am
Quote
I'm unopposed to wealth flowing to the smartest guys in the room.

This is because you are actually a bad person.
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Post by: Choop on June 17, 2013, 04:18:45 am
why the dang aint there turbines in the ocean yanking power out the currents that wont never go away til the moon does i mean we got phone cables and oil drills out there but we cant make electrics from gravity by way of the ocean i mean come the shit on
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Post by: pmcd9 on June 17, 2013, 05:42:09 am
why the dang aint there turbines in the ocean yanking power out the currents that wont never go away til the moon does i mean we got phone cables and oil drills out there but we cant make electrics from gravity by way of the ocean i mean come the shit on

The same reason we sucked up the easy to get to oil first.
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Post by: Doc on June 17, 2013, 01:37:07 pm
Worries you how? As a species we've done some pretty amazing things.

For the reason you say. I think we're overall pretty awesome but the consensus view in some groups is that everything humanity does is awful and it makes me sad that people think of their species that way.

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Post by: wombat on June 17, 2013, 01:47:34 pm
why the dang aint there turbines in the ocean yanking power out the currents that wont never go away til the moon does i mean we got phone cables and oil drills out there but we cant make electrics from gravity by way of the ocean i mean come the shit on

At first glance this sounds awesome but the more I think about it, the more it seems like this would majorly fuck up ocean ecosystems.
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Post by: AugustWest on June 17, 2013, 03:02:04 pm
I think we'll survive.  Maybe not so many of us or in the style to which we have become accustomed, but I think the species is safe for a long while.  We're nothing if not adaptable.
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Post by: jaydub on June 17, 2013, 07:19:07 pm
Stepping back from the nuclear brink was our species' equivalent of and 18yr old selling their Ninja 1200 superbike.
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Post by: pmcd9 on June 17, 2013, 07:46:38 pm
Stepping back from the nuclear brink was our species' equivalent of and 18yr old selling their Ninja 1200 superbike.

Are we back from the nuclear brink? I'm not sure we are. We never sold the Ninja, we just parked it in the garage and now we are letting our crazy nephew ride it.
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Post by: Choop on June 17, 2013, 09:27:04 pm
At first glance this sounds awesome but the more I think about it, the more it seems like this would majorly fuck up ocean ecosystems.

theres gotta be a way
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Post by: Arachno-capitalist on June 17, 2013, 10:01:45 pm
theres gotta be a way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_thermal_energy_conversion ? I always had a thing for geothermal energy, but that appears to be severely limited by possible locations.
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Post by: Choop on June 18, 2013, 06:19:48 am
nah dude not geothermal, imagine wind energy but instead of wind it's ocean currents

it's a trillion dollar idea that would only require a billion dollar investment lol
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Post by: dejavroom on June 18, 2013, 06:39:36 pm
Nothing against cars per se, but I think there's too much of them. And when I think of the number of vehicles leaving factories right as I type this... it can't be good.

Also I really don't think anyone will ever use nukes. It would look *terrible* on Facebook and Twitter.