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Trivial Pursuits => Arts & Entertainment => Topic started by: jay-ell on May 11, 2004, 11:18:58 pm
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So, after three years of marriage, Pedro has finally worn me down. I've finally agreed to a once-monthly "movie night." As background for those of you just tuning in (or otherwise not paying attention), I don't watch movies. I rarely have the patience to sit in once place for two hours at a time to watch pretty lights flash by on a screen and have nothing to show for it at the end. (This message board is different, I tell you.) But, because Pedro has convinced me that I'm missing out on a major part of the world's culture by ignoring the film industry wholesale, I've agreed to embark on this journey of self-improvement by sitting in a dark room once every four weeks. Hence, I humbly place myself in y'all's capable hands. What movies must I watch in order to become a well-rounded, less boring individual?
Of the few movies I have seen, my favorites include:
Blade Runner
The LOTR Trilogy (of course)
Wag the Dog
The Usual Suspects
The Matrix (Although I am currently pretending that the other two didn't happen.)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Desperado
True Lies
Fight Club
The Edge
So, I like movies with blood, violence and/or politics, intrigue and suspense; explosions and humour are pluses, and rugged, unshaven heroes (think Aragorn, not Frodo) and/or Salma Hayak's boobies are appreciated but not required.
Pedro, meanwhile, likes movies with good guys who are truly good and bad guys who are truly bad. He likes seeing the underdog prevail against all odds and get the girl in the end. He likes neat ideas that are excecuted well. His favorites: Casablanca, Rocky IV, Die Hard, Groundhog Day, Unforgiven, A New Hope (that's Star Wars to you and me).
That said, we're taking suggestions. Movies similar to the ones I've described are welcome, as they're the ones likely to get watched first. However, we're also looking to expand our horizons, so if there are some offbeat films you geekier film geeks can suggest (we also liked The City of Lost Children) we'd be open to those as well. Please limit you suggestions to films currently available on VHS or DVD, since I also promised a separate night once a month to go to the theatre. (What did I get myself into?)
So, open season. Blast away.
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I don't watch movies. I rarely have the patience to sit in once place for two hours at a time to watch pretty lights flash by on a screen and have nothing to show for it at the end. (This message board is different, I tell you.)
I just wanted to thank you for letting me know that somewhere in this world there is at least one other person aside from me who feels this way. Of course, this means I am useless for offering any suggestions in answer to your request.
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I consider Citizen Kane to be absolutely essential, but it really doesn't fit either of your categories, since the explosions are basically nonexistent and all the characters are quite flawed. Nonetheless, it is perhaps the finest film ever made and deserves your love. Otherwise, I'm fairly uncertain; my tastes in explodey films leaves a lot to be desired (I still love The Fifth Element and enjoyed Tank Girl, for example), so I'll think of something I like that is not repulsive to others.
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Regardless of your criteria you should really make an effort to see The Manchurian Candidate in it's original black and white form. It's awesome.
The Original Cape Fear is also really good.
I'm in a weird moving-suggesting mood today it seems.
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Memento
The Spanish Prisoner
El Mariachi
The original Italian Job
Dr. Strangelove
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Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter
It's got action -- it's got intrigue. A bit hard to find, but a great homage to the B-Movie genre.
Even more so, you need to watch the Evil Dead trilogy. The first is not as necessary, but the second is a great horror film, and the third combines it with some great comedy. Also, Bruce Campbell kicks ass.
Hard.
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Lawrence of Arabia
Patton
Blazing Saddles
Young Frankenstein
Animal House
Godfather I and II
Apocolypse Now
Goodfellas
Pulp fuckin' Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
The Stoned Age
The Manchurian Candidate
Repo Man
Slaughterhouse Five
2001
A Clockwork Orange
Barton Fink
Fargo
Blood Simple
Raising Arizona
Rushmore
The Royal Tenenbaums
The Conversation
Little Big Man (also an excellent book)
Alien
Brazil
The giraffeer King
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Life of Brian
The Outlaw Josey Wales
off the top of my head...
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Yeah, what he said - all good, and by the time you get through those and one per month, we'll all be long gone anyway.
You wouldn't be far wrong seeing all Coen Bros and all Tarantino to start.
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot --
Bloodsucking Freaks.
It's a heartwarming, brain devouring experience.
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Citizen Kane
Memento
The Spanish Prisoner
El Mariachi
Godfather I
Dr. Strangelove
Young Frankenstein
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
All these films, we've seen and either liked or loved. All very, very good suggestions.
Evil Dead
Alien
I forgot to add one caveat: I cannot watch horror films. I'm a total pansy and they give me nightmares. Blood, gore, violence, etc. are fine -- but people hurting other people for fun and creepy, easily disguised monsters bent on our destruction are taboo. For pete's sake, I had nightmares after Blade 2. So go easy on the horror.
I know, that rules out, like, 80% of the stuff y'all were going to suggest. Sorry.
Also, stuff that's been floating around my head for a while, that y'all reminded me of:
Apocolypse Now
A Clockwork Orange (in spite of it's scariness, I'm determined to see it)
Meanwhile, I'm amazed at the number of films you've deemed essential that I havent even heard of. Holy Moses! I live under a rock!
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Black Rain
Chinatown
Goodfellas
Donnie Brasco
Batman (Tim Burton - ignore all sequels)
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
Galaxy Quest
Strangely, only the last really fits into your criteria. The rest are full of intrigue (save Batman) and action (save Goodfellas) and fantastic performances all around. I'll wait until you've cleared through the queue you're building right now to suggest more.
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It sounds like you're not looking for a film education as much as you just want something interesting to watch once a month.
To that end, I'll suggest less "challenging" films (i.e. those that are important art but not necessarily the most entertaining) other than one, which is both challenging AND entertaining:
8 1/2
Don't let the fact that it's in B&W and in Italian throw you - it's all about the visuals, which are stunning.
And JL, aren't you one to sit in one place and play video games (and eat bon-bons) all day?
Anyway, here are some more quick suggestions, based on what I think you'd like based on your list above:
Adaptation
The Sweet Hereafter
House of Games
The Spanish Prisoner
Panic Room
The Game
Magnolia
Boogie Nights
E.T.
Dark City
Singin' in the Rain
Once Upon a Time in the West
Changing Lanes
The Big Lebowski
Ocean's 11 (2001)
The Italian Job (1969)
Minority Report
Solaris (2002)
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I've got nothing-- all the recommendations that I'd have that would fit your criteria have already been named, and my taste seems to be diametrically opposed to yours. Cf. me liking Koyaanisqatsi.
I'm pretentious that way. But of the recommendations thus far, I'd most second Blade Runner. It's one of my favourites, and it's aesthetically pleasing as well as exciting and such.
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Yeah, definitely Chinatown.
Tampopo
True Stories
Swimming to Cambodia
The Blues Brothers
Fletch
True Stories
The Hudsucker Proxy
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Outland
Lethal Weapon I and II
Harold and Maude
Slacker
I, Claudius (not really a movie, just the greatest mini-series evar!)
The Cowboys
The Sting
The Birds
Psycho
North by Northwest
His Gal Friday
The Apartment
Highlander (but ONLY the first one)
The Man Who Would be King (This should have been high on the first list)
The Name of the Rose
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
Sleeper
The Big Brawl
PCU
Mad Max
It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
The French Connection
Tommy
OK, I know I'm going overboard here and just listing movies that I like. But a) so what and b) I thought it could be useful as a list of things to keep an eye out for on TV. Some of these show up regularly.
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Raising Arizona
The Hudsucker Proxy
The Royal Tenenbaums
Dazed and Confused
For A Few Dollars More
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
Duck Soup
The Seven Samurai
L'Age D'or
and, of course - Dolemite II: The Human Tornado
Aliens is pretty much tied with Citizen Kane as my favorite movie ever, but if you're squeamish...
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They don't fit the criteria, but any Miyazaki (sp?), dammit! Spirited Away! Kiki's Delivery Service! But no Princess Mononoke because it's whole point is that good and bad are vague which you said Pedro doesn't like.
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They don't fit the criteria, but any Miyazaki (sp?), dammit! Spirited Away! Kiki's Delivery Service! But no Princess Mononoke because it's whole point is that good and bad are vague which you said Pedro doesn't like.
Also there's that all-consuming blob again. Damn that blob!
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They don't fit the criteria, but any Miyazaki (sp?), dammit! Spirited Away! Kiki's Delivery Service! But no Princess Mononoke because it's whole point is that good and bad are vague which you said Pedro doesn't like.
Also there's that all-consuming blob again. Damn that blob!
Respect the blob, man.
Anyway, further mad props to Miyazaki. If you don't have any severe moral objections to kids' movies, I give My Neighbor Totoro my highest recommendation. There's basically no violence, and Selma Hayek's breasts inexplicably fail to appear, but it's still a joyful and charming film.
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Salma Hayak's boobies are appreciated but not required.
Dogma
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I'll see that Dogma and raise you a Clerks.
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Clerks suffers for no Salma Hayek boobs.
How about Desperado?
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Of the few movies I have seen, my favorites include:
Desperado
How about Desperado?
Good idea. Anyway, how about Neighbors, or The 'Burbs?
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They don't fit the criteria, but any Miyazaki (sp?), dammit! Spirited Away! Kiki's Delivery Service! But no Princess Mononoke because it's whole point is that good and bad are vague which you said Pedro doesn't like.
It's less classically Miyazaki, but Castle of Cagliostro is "Miyazaki Does Heist-Movie" which sounds like it might go over well. But I dunno.
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I mean, I wouldn't be hatin' so if y'all weren't neglecting so many pairs of perfectly utilitarian boobies.
Salma Hayak's boobies were just tossed out there as an example. She's purdy. Hur hur hur.
I also have a thing for Antionio Banderas, so of course I own Desperado.
Mmmmmmmmmm. Desperado.
We did see Once Upon a Time in Mexico, and thought it was awful (in spite of all the pretty boys -- AB & JD, yum). Saw that one in the theatre, even. But we did like El Mariachi. Big budget filmmaking ruined the trilogy.
Last night we saw The Crow. It was good. I was surprised -- it had more humor than I expected. Now I want to read the comic book. I bet it kicks ass.
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Now I want to read the comic book. I bet it kicks ass.
That it does. I haven't read it in a long time, but must get round to picking up a copy, as like the movie, it is somewhat a keeper.
If you like the movie, you might try Dark City, Proyas' follow up movie, which was muchly underrated, and actually got note from some of the big critics as such.
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My favourite part about the Crow is that someone is credited as playing a character called "Bad Ass Criminal."
Can you imagine putting that on your CV?
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Salma Hayak's boobies are appreciated but not required.
Have you seen Frida? Besides fitting this criterion, it's got great art, rad computer animation, much carousing, AND when you rent it, you are much more likely to be taken for an artsy type than a Wants To Peruse Breasts Type. If that happens to trouble you, which it needn't especially.
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JL, you understand of course, that by accepting our recommendations you are by implication undertaking an obligation.
You must post a review of each movie that you watch as a result of this thread. Or else.
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Two more, both comic related:
Crumb
and
American Splendor
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Midnight Cowboy
On the Waterfront
Taxi Driver
Dunston Checks In
~Paul
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Paul, are you testing us? Dunston Checks In?
I suggest also
It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad World
The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming
The Odd Couple (original)
The Desk Set
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Now I want to read the comic book. I bet it kicks ass.
Yeah, the comic is good, although it is a huge-ass slice of 80's (actually, late 80's/early 90's) . The second you see the fiance (blond, enormous poofy hair....CHECK), you can date it. But good, nonetheless, and despite most of the fans.
DAMN FOREIGN CARS.
I don't really know what else to recommend. Oh, "The Magic Crane," this awesome kung fu movie. I almost guarantee you that you will never find it unless I mail you a copy. OHHH! And speaking of kung fu, CRIPPLED MASTERS! An armless guy teams up with a legless guy teams up with a MONKEY to FIGHT EVIL WARLORDS! Played by a real legless guy, armless guy and monkey, respectively!
Oh, man, I think I'm going to try and disgorge all of my knowledge gleaned through Kung Fu Klub:
SHAOLIN INVINCIBLES- The movie that invented TONGUE FU! (as seen below)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000560X6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
DRUNKEN MASTER- The ORIGINAL, starring a really young Jackie Chan and Siu Tien Yuen, best know for playing THOUSANDS OF DRUNK OLD MASTERS! See an old Chinese guy do what they do best: hit people and then mock them!
5 VENOMS VS. WU-TANG- 5 year old Hopping Chinese Zombies. Just....just brillan.t Hold on, I need a moment. WARNING: Contains baby c*ck.
BATTLE ROYALE- Now we move on to our other mysterious friends from the far East, the Japanese! BATTLE ROYALE dares to ask, what would happen if you put a bunch of 7th-graders on an island, and made them kill eachother? WHAT INDEED! The sequel is also good: imagine SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, only there are a bunch of little Japanese girls running up the beach.
HARD BOILED- Highest onscreen body count of any movie, ever: 230 people are shot onscreen. That enough should make you want to see it. Oh, and Chow Yun-Fat plays a cop named Tequila. I watched this for the third time after watching NATURAL BORN KILLERS for the first.....damn.
THE HAPPINESS OF THE KATAKURAS- Do you like Japanese people, dancing in sailor uniforms? How about if they SING, too? Do you like movies where people die? This movie is basically treasure.
Wow, those were some awesome movies. Now I gotta go back and rent them again. Sorry about all of the caps, I enjoy violating internet manners/want to be like that dude from Aint-It-Cool.
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SHAOLIN INVINCIBLES- The movie that invented TONGUE FU!
DRUNKEN MASTER- The ORIGINAL, starring a really young Jackie Chan and Siu Tien Yuen, best know for playing THOUSANDS OF DRUNK OLD MASTERS! See an old Chinese guy do what they do best: hit people and then mock them!
So that's where they got the idea for Tonguey in Kung Pow (also a really excellent movie, btw).
And is Drunken Master 2 available anywhere other than in the crappy disneyfied bastard-child version?
Random trivia: the Drunken Master is the same character as the kid in Iron Monkey and Jet Li in the Once Upon a Time in China movies.
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And is Drunken Master 2 available anywhere other than in the crappy disneyfied bastard-child version?
Random trivia: the Drunken Master is the same character as the kid in Iron Monkey and Jet Li in the Once Upon a Time in China movies.
I got a copy of "Legend of the Drunken Master" which is really Drunken Master 2. Is this the disneyfied version you speak of.
Random trivia 2: While I can't dig up his name right now, that character is an important hero in Chinese lore. Jackie Chan was making a bold move by portraying him as a bratty kid in a kung-fu comedy.
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JL, you understand of course, that by accepting our recommendations you are by implication undertaking an obligation.
You must post a review of each movie that you watch as a result of this thread. Or else.
Happily. I'm compiling a list of all the films now, and I'll be weeding out the ones that are too scary or that we've seen. Then we'll go down the list according to what we're most interested in, what we feel like seeing that particular day, and what's available that week at North American Video. (Screw Blockbuster! Screw them in the face.) Brief reviews will be posted in this thread as we go along. Since you've all seen the films, it'll probably be as simple as "two thumbs up" or "two thumbs down."
If you guys were Amazon.com, you'd be able to tailor your reccommendations to our tastes after the first few films we rated. But instead, we'll probably just argue about it ;)
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I got a copy of "Legend of the Drunken Master" which is really Drunken Master 2. Is this the disneyfied version you speak of.
Yeah, Jackie did a new version a few years ago. I never saw it, just because it totally lacked SAM SEED, international drunk man kung fu machine.
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Golly, you guys are nuts. I compiled the list, and after weeding out the dozen or so movies we'd seen and all the doubles, I have nearly 100 movies to choose from.
And I'm sure there's more to come.
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Having gotten onto the Asian stuff, I'd throw in:
Ringu (despite your hatred of horrors - I don't think it's scary anyway).
A Chinese Ghost Story
Audition
Definitely - like Bozack said - Battle Royale.
Once Upon A Time In China (and the subsequent ones too) 'cause Jet Li is as good as they come!
Iron Monkey
Cowboy Bebop - Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Someone said anything by Miyazaki and that stands!
Wonderful Days (to be Sky Blue upon American release)
I think everyone else has mentioned the myriad I can think of at the moment. And there are, I'm sure, far more I could dredge up from memory alone.
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We both liked Princess Mononoke and loved Spirited Away. I'd really like to see Seven Samurai. Please lean on her about Seven Samurai.
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And is Drunken Master 2 available anywhere other than in the crappy disneyfied bastard-child version?
Random trivia: the Drunken Master is the same character as the kid in Iron Monkey and Jet Li in the Once Upon a Time in China movies.
I got a copy of "Legend of the Drunken Master" which is really Drunken Master 2. Is this the disneyfied version you speak of.
Random trivia 2: While I can't dig up his name right now, that character is an important hero in Chinese lore. Jackie Chan was making a bold move by portraying him as a bratty kid in a kung-fu comedy.
Yes. Disney completely redid the score and made major cuts of the ending.
Wong Fei Hong (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008EY6M/103-2073984-1243809?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=IWTJBCVETO0DH&colid=I2LVRH8D3C0X)
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We both liked Princess Mononoke and loved Spirited Away. I'd really like to see Seven Samurai. Please lean on her about Seven Samurai.
Try Yojimbo instead. All the goodness of a Kurasawa/Mifune movie without requiring the patience needed to really enjoy Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress.
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Try Yojimbo instead. All the goodness of a Kurasawa/Mifune movie without requiring the patience needed to really enjoy Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress.
What the fuck?!?
Sure. "Pass over two A+ masterpieces for an A-, because you might have a short attention span." Yojimbo's good, no question, but that's like telling someone to pass over Citizen Kane and The Magnificent Ambersons for Chimes at Midnight. Come on.
Rent the Criterion Collection DVD of Seven Samurai. Better still, buy it.
Then, either Hidden Fortress, Throne of Blood, or Ran if you're in the mood for a color film. Yojimbo and it's sequel, Sanjuro, after that, or perhaps Kagemusha ( The Shadow Warrior ).
Hope you've got a good video store near you.
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Try Yojimbo instead. All the goodness of a Kurasawa/Mifune movie without requiring the patience needed to really enjoy Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress.
What the fuck?!?
Sure. "Pass over two A+ masterpieces for an A-, because you might have a short attention span." Yojimbo's good, no question, but that's like telling someone to pass over Citizen Kane and The Magnificent Ambersons for Chimes at Midnight. Come on.
Rent the Criterion Collection DVD of Seven Samurai. Better still, buy it.
Then, either Hidden Fortress, Throne of Blood, or Ran if you're in the mood for a color film. Yojimbo and it's sequel, Sanjuro, after that, or perhaps Kagemusha ( The Shadow Warrior ).
Hope you've got a good video store near you.
Chimes at Midnight and F for Fake are my two favorite Welles movies actually. De gustabus blah blah blah. But my point was that I found Yojimbo a better introductory film. Seven Samurai and Hidden Fortress are magnificent films, but from what JL's described, I think she'd find them a bit plodding if not already shown how great Kurasawa is.
Yojimbo is also a great way to demonstrate existentialism to someone without insisting they snore their way through Camus.
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Gummo
1991-The year punk broke
Gates of Heaven
Wings of Desire
Any infared porn you can get yr hands on
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that's like telling someone to pass over Citizen Kane and The Magnificent Ambersons for Chimes at Midnight. Come on.
Honestly? For someone in JL's position of being a movie neophyte not instantly engaged by the medium, I would be exceptionally leery about recommending Ambersons. Is it a great movie? Fuck yes. Is it a remarkably difficult movie to appreciate fully and interpret in the light of the studio's butchering? Damn straight it is. It's a must-see, but I'd definitely recommend Kane and possibly even Chimes first, just to give her something resembling a toolkit for the movie.
But Kane she should see.
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Movies that must be seen...
Pretty much all of them, OK...
Otherwise they're just ineffective radio shows.
It's a visual medium, doncha know. If you don't see a movie you're missing most of art. Have I belabored this lame joke long enough yet?
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Movies that must be seen...
Pretty much all of them, OK...
Otherwise they're just ineffective radio shows.
It's a visual medium, doncha know. If you don't see a movie you're missing most of art. Have I belabored this lame joke long enough yet?
Except maybe The Miracle Worker.
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Movies that must be seen...
Pretty much all of them, OK...
Derek Jarman's Blue (http://imdb.com/title/tt0106438/) doesn't need to be seen. Actually, none of his movies need to be seen, but this one has basically no visual component.
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Derek Jarman's Blue (http://imdb.com/title/tt0106438/) doesn't need to be seen. Actually, none of his movies need to be seen, but this one has basically no visual component.
Rent Krystof Kieslowski's Blue (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008976Y/qid=1084547580/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/102-9654685-0611337?v=glance&s=dvd) instead.
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Rent Krystof Kieslowski's Blue (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008976Y/qid=1084547580/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/102-9654685-0611337?v=glance&s=dvd) instead.[/url]
Pedro, I'll see Seven Samauri and two other Kurosawa films with you if you'll watch Trois Couleurs (http://imdb.com/find?tt=on;nm=on;mx=20;q=trois%20couleurs) with me.
I've seen Blue (http://imdb.com/title/tt0108394/) and White (http://imdb.com/title/tt0111507/), but not Red (http://imdb.com/title/tt0111495/). This must be rectified.
Then again, I probably owe you one for Artemesia, what with that curly headed guy's floppy wang, and all.
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Rouge is my favourite of the Trois Couleurs Trilogy.
They are all good, though.
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The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
The Wild Bunch
Badlands
Now, the first two are pretty violent, but lack when it comes to the good guy/bad guy things probably. Badlands has a clear cut bad guy, but I did empathize with him. Its just a great movie. Unfortunately, it's only PG. Aside from that though, beautiful.
Oh yeah, I liked Heat too. It's a cops and robbers story. Nice gun shootin.
I'm not gay, but I do have a thing for Johnny Depp. Donnie Brasco was good.
Most of my other recommendations were taken I think.
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Dude, way to resurrect a dead thread.
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Yeah, I realize it's an older one, but as I was looking for another topic I stumbled upon this and had to contribute.
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I am hell of not going back through this whole damn thing to see if these have been mentioned. So here are a couple of afterthought suggestions:
Night on Earth
Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
Brubaker
His Gal Friday
Outland
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Once Upon a Time in the West
Westworld
American Movie
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I am not the world's biggest fan of movies... but here goes with my list.
La Vita e Bella
The Royal Tenenbaums
Pi
Jackie Brown
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La Vita e Bella
The Royal Tenenbaums
Pi
Jackie Brown
Yup. Although I haven't seen Tenenbaums yet, I already know I am going to like it (just from the list of people I know who do), and Jackie Brown I think is a great film. I have never understood people's problem with it...
And I'm still just in shock about people's reactions to Kill Bill. Goddam!
Serenity will be on the list, in a years time. Infuriating, much!
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I like Bottle Rocket, Wes Anderson's first, over Royal Tennenbaums. Or Rushmore. I think I am alone in this though.
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Yeah, you're alone.
Rushmore is the best.
Then Bottle Rocket.
Then Tenenbaums.
It's hard to forsee where The Life Aquatic will fit in, but I can't imagine it being better than his first two.
We'll see.
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Anderson hierarchy.
I don't know about Rushmore being better than the other two, but Wes Anderson's probably my favourite contemporary director so I'd have a lot of trouble ranking his films. I find I enjoy the same things about all of them and that they have similar flaws. I'm terrified that I'll dislike Life Aquatic, however, since I've set quite high standards for it.
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I like Rushmore best of the three, followed closely by Tennenbaums. If nothing else you have to like these movies because they give Bill Murray a chance to act -- that is, to play a character other than Bill Murray.
My main criticism of Anderson is that he needs a good editor. A story editor that is, not a film editor. His pacing is a little slack which leads to some dragginess at points.
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Hell yes isn't that true. Although that is kind of why I love Bottle Rocket so much. It's such a lazy plot, or at least feels so lazy. It gets kind of annoying in the next two.
My main criticism of Anderson is that he needs a good editor. A story editor that is, not a film editor. His pacing is a little slack which leads to some dragginess at points.
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I just rented Citizen Kane. It's really weird to watch a movie that's been referenced so much. I kind of felt like I'd already seen it although I hadn't. I'd say it stands up well over time.
As for recent must see movies, I'd recommend The Triplets of Belleville. I saw the french only version in a theatre. The DVD has totally unnessisary subtitles. It's very enjoyable, and the music is great too.