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Title: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Flaaron on November 29, 2006, 02:16:07 am
A family's life is changed forever. (http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=11292006) And Ray seems to be working some rough chuckles and/or threats these days.

Pat's expression in the last panel: a child about to be run over? A mailbox? Cliffhanger or am I just nuts? THESE ARE NOT THINGS MEANT FOR MORTAL MINDS TO KNOW.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: AugustWest on November 29, 2006, 02:20:19 am
Wow.  A strip where Pat is the more sympathetic character.  That's gotta be a first.

Is the Escalade on the wrong side of the road in panel 4?
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: CortJstr on November 29, 2006, 02:44:07 am
Wow.  A strip where Pat is the more sympathetic character.  That's gotta be a first.

Is the Escalade on the wrong side of the road in panel 4?

I think he was taking an exit.

My question is how can Ray think dumb is a good thing?
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: ryanpeq on November 29, 2006, 03:00:12 am
I think he was taking an exit.

My question is how can Ray think dumb is a good thing?
Ray likes to get laid

Also, "The police walk up the mother's driveway!  I'm serious!" is the funniest line I've seen in Achewood in a good while.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: theinevitable on November 29, 2006, 03:01:40 am
also, some guys are attracted to girls like that. I don't know why. I mean, I'm not saying that I know guys that go for that, but, you know. I do.

it's some kind of dominance thing, maybe.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: littlefallsmets on November 29, 2006, 03:24:58 am
Quote from: theinevitable
it's some kind of dominance thing, maybe.

Ease of mating, generally.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: linnea on November 29, 2006, 04:03:23 am
With Ray talking like that, there's got to be some pavement carnage coming up.

Ray isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, so that's probably why he likes dumb women. A girl that I roomed with in college was so fuck*ng stupid that I'm amazed she could get herself dressed in the morning, but she was very beautiful and so that's how I suspect she passed all her classes. There are two kinds of men who like dumb women: A.) Men who are also stupid and don't like to be challenged or threatened by a woman; and B.) Men who have a dominance thing and like to have someone who doesn't challenge them intellectually. 
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: melack on November 29, 2006, 07:02:28 am
I have a friend who bought a pair of pink converse a couple years ago. He's a really hip guy, well-versed in all things indie -- I'm sure you know the type. He made a pretty big to-do about how cool they were when he brought them home from the store. Flash forward a few years, and I've yet to see him wear them even one single time. It's pretty easy for a dude in his early 20s to talk about wearing pink converse, but pulling it off is another story entirely.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: theinevitable on November 29, 2006, 07:16:28 am
see, this is the conundrum.

I would wear the pink converses. And everyone I know would think I was a complete idiot.

I'll stick with my big ol' leather hiking boots. I fuck*ng love these things. I kind of wish late 80's/early 90's indie-type fashion would come back... I'd be so hip. ugly t-shirts, sweaters, old jeans, hiking boots. mmm.

also, the pea-coat which Q and others suggested is working out nicely. once it gets cold (ie: thursday.) I will basically look like I am wearing the same clothes every day, once I venture outside (peacoat, some kind of jeans, boots, scarf, grey knit hat. presumably something is underneath the coat, but you can't see it.)

I really want to know what Pat sees, though.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Alternate on November 29, 2006, 08:38:00 am
1)  "I pour one out for the stick of butter that gave its life to be that eggnog."  So awesome. 

2)  "but that was like 'stick two wires in her and she can power a clock' dumb."  Also so awesome.  Does anyone know whether it's actually possible to make a potato battery out of a human, or is an genuine potato necessary?  I want to know. 
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: melack on November 29, 2006, 05:00:32 pm
1)  "I pour one out for the stick of butter that gave its life to be that eggnog."  So awesome. 

2)  "but that was like 'stick two wires in her and she can power a clock' dumb."  Also so awesome.  Does anyone know whether it's actually possible to make a potato battery out of a human, or is an genuine potato necessary?  I want to know. 

I propose there's only one way to find out. Do it for science.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Drygioni on November 29, 2006, 05:33:33 pm
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Does anyone know whether it's actually possible to make a potato battery out of a human, or is an genuine potato necessary?

Things I have tried to work potato clocks on while younger:

Things that work:
A pool of coke
Potatoes, bananas, etc.

Things that don't:
Pillows
Cheese
Uncooked chicken
A lake

In answer to your actual question: I don't see why it wouldn't work on humans, I swear I got a reading before the cat scarpered.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: theinevitable on November 29, 2006, 07:26:39 pm
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a lake

a lake.

oh my goodness, that list made me real happy.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: AugustWest on November 29, 2006, 08:37:45 pm
Judy, could you please explain again how we know the earth is banana shaped?
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Ben-San on November 29, 2006, 08:56:54 pm
Apparently what is necessary is that the object be acidic. So aim those electrodes for the stomach.

A can to Judy for Junior Science.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Alternate on November 29, 2006, 09:19:40 pm
In answer to your actual question: I don't see why it wouldn't work on humans, I swear I got a reading before the cat scarpered.

Sweet, good to know.  Come to think of it, Ray's bartender was probably a cat rather than a human, so this actually answers the question I should have asked.  (I forgot they were cats.  It happens to the best of us.) 

As for the some-guys-liking-dumb-girls phenomenon, once in my life this conversation happened:

Math Girl:  You know what's lame?  Sometimes a guy will hit on me, and when he finds out I'm a math girl his first reaction is to be all, "Math, eh?  Well, I know a thing or two about math myself.  Probably more than you do, in fact, even though you're getting a degree in it and I'm not.  Maybe I could help you with your homework sometime." 

Math Boy:  You think that's lame?  When girls hit on me and they find out I'm a math boy, their first reaction is to go, "Math?  Gee!  Math is hard!  I've got no head for figures!  Maybe you could help me with my homework sometime." 

So it seems like for a lot of people, male and female, heterosexual courtship means putting on a performance called "girls are dumb, boys are much smarter"  I don't know if they drop the act once the relationship starts or if they keep it up indefinitely. 

Also:  When I see models in magazines I am less annoyed by the fact that their bodies are photoshopped to be unreasonably thin, and more annoyed by the fact that their faces are photoshopped to look uniformly dumb.  They've all got that identical vacant "come hither" look, a look that says "I'm a non-player character who's programmed to want you."  So apparently someone out there looooves dumb as much as ray does, although I couldn't say whether it's the editors or the readers. 
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: smick on November 29, 2006, 09:59:38 pm
Things I have tried to work potato clocks on while younger:

Things that work:
A pool of coke
Potatoes, bananas, etc.

Things that don't:
Pillows
Cheese
Uncooked chicken
A lake

In answer to your actual question: I don't see why it wouldn't work on humans, I swear I got a reading before the cat scarpered.

This list is two entries shy of being "From the desk of Peter H. Cropes", also possible: Johnny Cash.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: pmcd9 on November 29, 2006, 11:04:10 pm
Men like dumb girls because getting your bone on shouldn't be such hard work.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: littlefox on November 29, 2006, 11:12:27 pm
I think it's true that dumb girls are easier to bang, but are they easier to date? A male friend of mine had an incredibly dumb girlfriend, and they were together for ages. He didn't even seem that happy with her whenever I saw them because they would have to actually interact, but maybe they were "happier" behind closed doors.
Personally, I don't think I could stand to go to all that trouble. I think it's possible for a chick to be so dumb that even sex doesn't justify spending time with her. It isn't too hard to find somebody to screw who is at least tolerable, especially if you're looking to date them as well.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: FlipConstantine on November 29, 2006, 11:53:38 pm
Men like dumb girls because getting your bone on shouldn't be such hard work.

I have seen very few statements I consider to be as can-worthy as this one.  Huzzah sir, you have accomplished great things.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: jaydub on November 30, 2006, 02:25:56 am
I think it's possible for a chick to be so dumb that even sex doesn't justify spending time with her.

I'll say "true that" to this.  Not that I was a swinging horn-dog when I was a single guy, but there was a time or two where I'd be chatting up someone at a club, or bar, or between classes or whatnot, thinking that it would be nice to knock boots and so forth and I'd come to realize the giddy dumb act wasn't an act.  Life's too short - sex is nice, but there are 23 other hours in the day and if I found someone tiresome in 15 minutes of conversation it would be a short trip to annoyance.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: elfbabe on November 30, 2006, 08:02:31 pm
Math Girl:  You know what's lame?  Sometimes a guy will hit on me, and when he finds out I'm a math girl his first reaction is to be all, "Math, eh?  Well, I know a thing or two about math myself.  Probably more than you do, in fact, even though you're getting a degree in it and I'm not.  Maybe I could help you with your homework sometime." 

Math Boy:  You think that's lame?  When girls hit on me and they find out I'm a math boy, their first reaction is to go, "Math?  Gee!  Math is hard!  I've got no head for figures!  Maybe you could help me with my homework sometime."

Please tell me Math Girl and Math Boy hooked up and had hot Math Sex after this.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: littlefallsmets on November 30, 2006, 08:21:05 pm
Quote from: elfbabe
Please tell me Math Girl and Math Boy hooked up and had hot Math Sex after this.

Pi puns optional?

No, pi puns MANDATORY.

Good ones, though. Not like "I know it's only three point one but it's all four you."

Good ones like I couldn't actually think of.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: wombat on November 30, 2006, 08:31:43 pm

Also:  When I see models in magazines I am less annoyed by the fact that their bodies are photoshopped to be unreasonably thin, and more annoyed by the fact that their faces are photoshopped to look uniformly dumb. 

You think they are photoshopped? I always assumed they are highly trained professionals at not eating and at looking dumb. At least for the latter, how hard can it be?  I can't imagine it needs technological intervention.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: theinevitable on November 30, 2006, 11:22:41 pm
yeah, for real.

the saddest thing, for me, is that one of the most intelligent girls I know is working in modeling. She is totally faking the dumb-face.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Alternate on November 30, 2006, 11:52:34 pm
Please tell me Math Girl and Math Boy hooked up and had hot Math Sex after this.

Well... I guess I see no real need to disabuse you of that notion.  I can confirm that in general Math Sex is exactly as hot as it sounds. 

Pi puns optional?

No, pi puns MANDATORY.

"Our love may be irrational, baby, but it's also transcendental... and very, very real." 

You think they are photoshopped? I always assumed they are highly trained professionals at not eating and at looking dumb. At least for the latter, how hard can it be?  I can't imagine it needs technological intervention.

This is the kind of thing I'm talking about: 

http://homepage.mac.com/gapodaca/digital/bikini/bikini2.html (http://homepage.mac.com/gapodaca/digital/bikini/bikini2.html)

http://www.glennferon.com/portfolio1/index.html (http://www.glennferon.com/portfolio1/index.html)

In some of these pictures the retouching only changes the color and lighting, but a lot of them take an already skinny model and make her stomach a bit more concave, or something like that.  Some of them make the women thinner while editing out their ribs, which is kind of amusing.  As for the faces it seems pretty typical to give the skin a homogenous orange glow, make the eyes sparkle and saturate the colors in the makeup.  Sometimes it's harmless, but there are pictures in that second link where I feel like the alteration erased so much data from the original face that it really changed the expression.  I'm mostly thinking of images 03, 29, 34 and 39. 
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: theinevitable on December 01, 2006, 12:00:08 am
whoever invented photoshop has a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: wombat on December 01, 2006, 12:30:25 am
Creepy.  I guess they figure, ribs, what good are they except on a pig?

But another thing - anyone else think that many pictures of models don't just look dumb, they look like they are about to throw up?  I guess they are trying to look sexy?  Seriously, I know there are a lot of weird fetishes out there but...
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: CortJstr on December 01, 2006, 02:06:51 am
whoever invented photoshop has a lot to answer for.

You mean John and Beef and the boys (http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=08172004)?
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Drastic Action on December 01, 2006, 02:10:36 am
Those sad/pouty faces really annoy me.  I like people happy, not all fake-brooding.  Blank expressions are better than trying to look all sad or angry or whatever it seems to be, but of course, a good smile is much better.  But then, you get into problems of gigantic fake smiles and all that, which are just ridiculous.  I guess, whenever you make a profession out of looking good, some kind of real spark gets lost.  And then of course, photoshopping every ounce of humanity out of it does not help either.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: theinevitable on December 01, 2006, 03:49:34 am
Steinmart's advertising utilises gigantic fake smiles which horrify me.

I personally like the things about people which make them unique. You know, the things that make them not the same as barbie dolls.

(I feel like I had posted something else to this effect before, but it is gone. Did it get deleted? Did I not post it? I apologize if I said something wrong, but I'd like to know what it was.)

the problem with liking people's unique features is that sometimes you compliment them on the very feature they dislike about themselves. Which makes them get all weirded out.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: pmcd9 on December 01, 2006, 09:22:43 pm
I think we're being played a little bit here.  I'm gonna say that these photos are photoshopped both ways.  The before photos are altered to make them look worse and the after photos are altered to make them look better.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Alternate on December 01, 2006, 10:49:13 pm
Hmm, I guess it's possible.  Those websites claim to be the portfolios of professional retouchers advertising their services -- although I can't verify that -- so it might be to their advantage to alter the before photos to make it seem like they affected bigger changes.  Or it could be that the websites are hoaxes designed to get people pissed off at the fashion industry, in which case it would also help their cause to cheat and make the difference seem bigger.  It seems to me, though, that photoshopping a picture to make it look "worse" -- drawing in hundreds of stray hairs, stippling the skin with realistic pores, painting in believable shadows, sculpting a curvy stomach over a flat one -- is probably much harder than changing it to make it "better" -- erasing the hairs, smoothing the pores and shadows, shaving off the curves.  I also think the pictures I see on the covers of magazines don't just display unusual body types, but they feature such intense colors and such uniform skin that I'm skeptical that it's possible to take a picture of a person and have it come out that way without digital enhancement.  I don't have any experience with photography or photoshopping, though, so maybe someone more knowledgable on those subjects can comment on this.  Recall, though, that my main issue with the photoshopping in those websites is that some of it takes people who look like interesting, potentially intelligent individuals, and makes their faces look relatively identical and lifeless.  I could believe they photoshopped bigger thighs into the before pictures if I saw evidence to that effect, but it's probably much harder to photoshop signs of life and individuality into someone's face than it is to remove them. 
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: AugustWest on December 02, 2006, 03:15:02 am
This is an interesting video.

http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/home_films_evolution_v2.swf
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: Drastic Action on December 02, 2006, 04:08:23 am
That was indeed interesting.

I still would prefer her as she was in the beginning, so the implication that that sort of thing has shifted my perceptions of beauty isn't correct.  She kinda looked a bit off at the end, like her proportions just did not make sense.  But I imagine there's a reason they go through that trouble, and that enough people would go for the latter look.

Perhaps I feel like I do because I don't watch TV and I am inherently skeptical of almost every ad, billboard, whatever, that I see.  It's kind of scary the secondary powers TV seems to have.  So nicely homogenizing.
Title: Re: 29 November 2006 - A child's pink Converse on the pavement...
Post by: AugustWest on December 02, 2006, 04:15:49 am
I still would prefer her as she was in the beginning,

Me too.  I'm far more attracted to women who look like actual humans that I've encountered.