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Trivial Pursuits => Science & Nature => Topic started by: fanta on August 29, 2010, 07:44:33 am
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check this out... you get a hard drive duplicator for under $100...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=hard+drive+duplicator&x=0&y=0
you get several 1TB hard drives for under $100 each:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%20600003269%204026&IsNodeId=1&name=%2450%20-%20%2475
You save all your files to a hard drive... fuck, if you want to, you could even install your OS on one of these hard drives and boot to it if you have a decent computer that supports booting to external media...
Every week, or however often is appropriate, you toss a backup hard drive into the duplicator and hit the 'copy' button.
If you have 4 backup hard drives, and you rotate drives always using the oldest drive, and you backup once a week, this means you can have access to a backup of your files that is 1, 2, 3, or 4 weeks old.
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I have a 1TB USB hard drive plugged into my Mac. Every Monday it duplicates the hard drive (256GB) to the external, and I can boot off of it. ($10 software).
Every hour, Time Machine (built in) runs, and makes a snapshot of my computer. I can go back and look at these hourly backups for the past 24 hours, daily backups for the past month, and weekly backups for everything older than a month. This goes on until the hard drive fills up.
Then every week or so, I take my laptop to work and run the drive duplicator on a external drive that lives in my office. (So I have an offsite backup in case of EL FUEGO)
I'm amazed that windows doesn't have anything that easy.
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I bought an external hard drive and it died in less than two weeks.
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I bought an external hard drive and it died in less than two weeks.
Musta been an Apple product.
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I bought an external hard drive and it died in less than two weeks.
Which died? The hard drive, or the USB adapter? When you buy a hard drive/adapter packaged together, you likely get a crappy adapter, and a cheap-ass hard drive as well. In case of failure, replacing one or the other is also much more difficult. You should buy a quality hard drive, and you should also buy a quality adapter.
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You should buy a quality hard drive, and you should also buy a quality adapter.
well, bloody hell, captain obvious, thank you so much!
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I'm amazed that windows doesn't have anything that easy.
Natural selection in the marketplace favors stupid products over products that work well, and further, natural selection in the market place favors corporate culture that is stupid instead of competent. This is partly because greed and selgiraffeness and lack of ethics are generally packaged together with incompetence and stupidity, but this is also because of the simple dynamics of the marketplace: A product that works too well and never has to be replaced and never needs service will not generate the cash flow needed to sustain an ecosystem of advertising and franchising and dealership/supplier/customer relationships such as you see with Windows.
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well, bloody hell, captain obvious, thank you so much!
If it's obvious, then why do people buy external hard drives with an integrated USB adapter?
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Which died? The hard drive, or the USB adapter? When you buy a hard drive/adapter packaged together, you likely get a crappy adapter, and a cheap-ass hard drive as well. In case of failure, replacing one or the other is also much more difficult. You should buy a quality hard drive, and you should also buy a quality adapter.
The hard drive... where is it... let me see here...
Found it... SimpleTech. What a piece of shit. It was one of the cheapest ones.
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simpletech doesn't make hard drives. that is not a brand of hard drive. It is a brand of USB adapter that happens to have a hard drive already installed inside of it. If you were to look at the hard drive, you'd probably find it to be a hitachi drive. It might or might not be in perfectly good working order. The failure of your "hard drive" is likely not a failure of your hard drive but rather is more likely a failure of your "Simpletech" USB adapter and/or the power adapter that supplies it with electricity. English motherfucker -- Do you speak it?
okay that's kind of harsh. I've been a real asshole lately. here... have a : - )
PS did you check to make sure the power adapter is plugged in? To the wall?
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lately?
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Please Hammer don't hurt 'em.
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There was some mechanical problem, the disk was making a clicking sound when it spun. Somewhere on the internet said that meant it was good for trash. I really don't care about it. I have no use for it anyway.
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well it depends on the clicking sound. it depends. All hard drives click sometimes.
what did you do to it anyway?
why did you hate this hard drive?
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Just let a hard drive die, man. Let it be at peace.
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[insensitive joke equating a hard drive to terry shiavo]
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Remember when the United States congress was having floor debates about whether or not that woman would die? That shit was surreal. It was the same week the pope died.
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That hard drive killed my sensei! Its kung fu is weak!
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that hard drive has a soul damnit! pet dogs and cats don't have souls, but that hard drive has a soul.
yeah I really feel sorry for people whose religious belief relegates other species to some lesser plane of existence. This dude at work, I like him a lot, he's one of the most decent people you'll ever meet in the world, has a great all around sense of ethics, and then one day he starts ranting about how pets don't have souls and so it's a sin to feed them organic cat food or something that that effect. The dude probably votes republican because they're ostensibly pro-life, or something like that.
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I don't believe animals have souls, but the only way that affects my beliefs about how they should be treated is that it requires that they not be held responsible for acting according to their instincts, even when that results in hurting humans.
In other words, animals aren't people and should be treated with respect, dignity, and an appropriate level of caution.
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Well, yeah, but that's no different from how I treat people.
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I'm just curious, what is the basis that animals don't possess a soul?
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I'm just curious, what is the basis that animals don't possess a soul?
According to catholicism? Animals can't have a meaningful relationship with god.
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Oh well, another good reason to reject religion I suppose.
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Hm. If every molecule in the universe has a soul, and I let a hard drive die, am I actively condemning possible universes? Ponderable.
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I don't know what a soul is? I mean, I know what soul is, it's like, a genre of music, and a way of being. But 'a' soul? That's like, a really high capacity flash drive that God uses to back me up? So in case I'm destroyed by fire or flood or the like, I can continue to exist, on some sort of virtual level? I don't know about that. Wake up one day, all uploaded to God's hard disk storage array, without a physical body? God's all like 'I couldn't save your body, but I saved your hard drive' http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/12/15/owner.still.awaiting.compensation/
No. Fuc7 you God! What good is my Hard Drive to me without my HARD DRIVE if you know what I mean. A soul without a physical pen1s just wouldn't be the same. I like my peni5 . A lot. I refuse to believe that God would let me exist without my p3nis. That sounds more like something that Satan would do. Separate me from my physical p3nis for all of eternity. I could probably also do with labia and a pu$$y and a clit, in a pinch. either way. I'm sure that rocks too. Hell, in a way that's even better because you have the strap-on option, so you can kind of go both ways. But to have neither? For the rest of eternity? Just hanging out there as some invisible black-matter anti-energy with no mass and no physicality and no peni5, in the ethernet of space and time? WTF people. Get a grip! no pun intended.
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So did we decide if electronic devices have souls? Because if my Blackberry has a soul, it's the reincarnation of Hitler, is what it is.
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I'm just curious, what is the basis that animals don't possess a soul?
I'm not Catholic, but I don't believe animals have souls simply because that's the exclusive right of humans, being created in the image of God and all. If Genesis is to be believed, that is -- which, clearly, is up for debate.
We humans, having souls, reason, and consciences, are supposed to be stewards of the earth and all its inhabitants, caring for all God's creatures, especially those who lack opposable thumbs and higher thinking skills. Unfortunately, a lot of otherwise comitted Christians have forgotten this bit.
Do we get to eat animals? Yeah, because they don't have souls and God made them of meat for our benefit (again, Genesis). Do we get to raise them in abominable conditions, shoot them full of hormones and drugs, and beat them with sticks when they don't behave exactly as we'd like? No, because they also feel pain and fear. It seems pretty clear to me, and I don't know why there seems to be this cultural divide between right-wing fundamentalist Christians and hard-core environmentalists. Caring about the planet should be tied closely to Christianity, I can't figure out why a lot of Christians seem offended by the very concept of environmental awareness.
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Drum machines can has souls?
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Caring about the planet should be tied closely to Christianity, I can't figure out why a lot of Christians seem offended by the very concept of environmental awareness.
a lot of people mistake self-righteousness for righteousness.
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I think it has to do with the fact that for most people religion is a cultural decision rather than a theological one.
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Interesting debate, that one.
I don't wanna get too much into it because we've gotten into certain parts of this before and most of y'all dislike my take on faith.
However, it is interesting as hell the ways that things we pick up culturally influence us ideologically and vicey-vee, unintentionally.
Outside of religion, for example.
I grew up a fan of the Mets because their minor league team was the one thing about my hometown I thought "special" as a child.
Did I absorb the ideology of the Mets fanbase... a tendency toward being whiny and put-upon and undermining my actual needs through a self-destructive desire to keep up with a serious of exterior older-brother figures with radically different skill-sets and goals... through this cultural identification?
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I'm not arguing pro soul/no soul. I'm just saying if we do have souls I don't want to go to a heaven that doesn't include my dog Mack. Fuck that noise.
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See, the solution for that is the thing where the afterlife is such a different plane of existence that our memories of mortal life are but dim and distant dreams. So if we die before our loved ones (when Pedro outlives me, for instance) or if they don't make it past the pearly gates at all, we don't miss them. If we had to be sad about who isn't present, it wouldn't really be heaven.
Certainly, some animals are more deserving of eternal reward than many humans. But when it comes to God's grace, it ain't about deservin'. If it were, we'd *all* be screwed.
Again, these are my personal beliefs, which I offer here not with the intention of persuading anyone, but simply for the sake of explication and/or your collective amusement.
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I'm not arguing pro soul/no soul. I'm just saying if we do have souls I don't want to go to a heaven that doesn't include my dog Mack. Fuck that noise.
C. S. Lewis covers this in one of his books. (Miracles, maybe?) His argument, which by the way is his own speculation and not based on any sort of official dogma, is that any individual animals a person has ever had a connection to become immortal by participating in the soul of the person connected to them. The idea is that you, the person in heaven, by loving a pet actually give it part of your soul, so that it is still with you in the afterlife. This concept allows pets to be with you in heaven, but prevents every damn mosquito that ever lived from being there as well.
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The splitting of the difference between jay and Ash would be...
In the afterlife, you are allowed the illusion that all the things you liked got in with you? That you would have the company of your internal approximation of whatever you wanted?
If you died remembering your grandchild as a good young man, kinda quiet, but unbeknownst to you he was a horrible serial killer? You spend eternity with a sort of celestial animatron of your conception of him, when you want to interact with him?
I've seen no evidence of a next life, myself, but I've always personally enjoyed the idea of a next life as level two after this life being level one. Everything here happened and you remember it but you're so overwhelmed by all the new next-level crazy shit you're up against that... it is all, at best, a pleasant memory where you accrued a basic skill set that you're going to have to take into overdrive whatever this next adventure is?
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Just Sayin' (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=458011820139)
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C. S. Lewis covers this in one of his books. (Miracles, maybe?) His argument, which by the way is his own speculation and not based on any sort of official dogma, is that any individual animals a person has ever had a connection to become immortal by participating in the soul of the person connected to them. The idea is that you, the person in heaven, by loving a pet actually give it part of your soul, so that it is still with you in the afterlife. This concept allows pets to be with you in heaven, but prevents every damn mosquito that ever lived from being there as well.
I like this plan (fuck those mosquitoes, seriously) as long as I also get the animals I didn't personally own, like the sloths and maras that I worked with at the zoo. That seems fair, right?
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It just seems odd to me that some guy gets to make up those rules, but maybe that's how it all works. And either way, what difference does it make, I guess.
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Hmmmph. So this experience is transitory and Heaven will pull out a handi-wipe and clean this terrestrial junk off my soul once I get into the afterparty.
Kinda doesn't work for me. It leads to a "why bother" moment.
Yeah, it does. Which is why even people who firmly, unquestioningly believe in a higher power still sometimes have crises of faith. Yeah, he's there, but why did he put me here?
I've seen no evidence of a next life, myself, but I've always personally enjoyed the idea of a next life as level two after this life being level one. Everything here happened and you remember it but you're so overwhelmed by all the new next-level crazy shit you're up against that... it is all, at best, a pleasant memory where you accrued a basic skill set that you're going to have to take into overdrive whatever this next adventure is?
And that's basically the answer I came up with. I have a complex explanation, based purely on personal observation and speculation, but what it boils down to is that we've got a lot of shit to learn before we get to hang with the Big Guy, and this little big planet of ours is the best way to get it through our thick skulls in one go-round. So he sticks us here and gives us a couple of billion classmates to learn with and from, and by the time we "graduate" we've got it down well enough that St. Peter can fill us in on the rest.
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Don't expect there to be any sort of next anything. Every entity in one way or another perceives itself as immortal. THAT SUX. But it's true. Anyway, I'd explain it but it's alot easier not to.
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I mean, I've seen no evidence that disagrees with what you're saying, cyberdeity.
But it is a fun thought experiment to bat around, nonetheless.
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Christian theological views of animals is one of my favorite subjects, so I've been chewing on a post for this thread.
I don't believe that animals were created to be food for humans. Genesis 1 says that God created humans to rule over animals, but in regards to food specifies
"Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so."
In Genesis 2, God gives the fruit of every tree (except for the tree of knowledge of good and evil) to Adam to eat. Then God creates animals and asks Adam to name them and to see if he can find a helper amongst them.
The first time that an animal is killed in the garden is to hide Adam and Eve's shame after they ate from said tree (Genesis 3). That is to say, the animal's death is the result of this human pair's sin.
The further result of their sin is conflict with the snake, with the land, and the establishment of patriarchy.
The first time that God gives the animals to humans for food is after the flood (which, again, was a reaction to humankind's sinfulness).
Isaiah 11 prophesies that the messiah will usher in a time when there will be no conflict between animals and an end to the conflict between humans and snakes (and presumably other animals). Predators will become herbivores and "They will not hurt or destroy in all My holy mountain."
Romans 8:19-23 suggests that all of creation will redeemed, but is currently subjected to the powers and principalities (one of which could arguably be anthropocentrism).
In this essay (http://www.jesusradicals.com/wp-content/uploads/end-of-flesh.pdf) co-authored by my favorite theologian, Stanley Hauerwas, the authors assert that nature should thus be understood as "creation in bondage."
So do animals have souls? I don't know. The bible doesn't really say that they don't. Fanta brings up a good point that the idea of a body-less soul is kind alienating. There is some of that type of language in the New Testament, but there is also talk of a new body and/or bodily resurrection. The body/soul dichotomy really comes from earlier Greek thought.
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I don't believe that animals were created to be food for humans. Genesis 1 says that God created humans to rule over animals, but in regards to food specifies
"Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so."
Yeah, but then the Gospels right up and say that Jesus ate a giraffe. If eating giraffe is okay for God, I figure it's fine for us, too.
Also, there's that other bit in the Gospels where Jesus directly created several thousand giraffe to be food for humans.
EDIT: Let's hear it for posting late at night when you forget what the filters are.
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Jorge, I don't want to belittle your well thought out post. You've raised some interesting points in a way that I've never considered before.
But on a lighter note... One of my favorite quotes regarding vegetarianism. If god didn't want us to eat meat, why did he make it taste like steak? Ha ha...
I wonder if humans are tasty? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmcd9/4606174793/)
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Yeah, but then the Gospels right up and say that Jesus ate a giraffe. If eating giraffe is okay for God, I figure it's fine for us, too.
Also, there's that other bit in the Gospels where Jesus directly created several thousand giraffe to be food for humans.
He certainly did and that's certainly something to be reckoned with in my line of thought.
The standard response is that he also said "I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father." Now, since there aren't too many accounts of Christians running around raising the dead and walking on the water (although there are some of the former in the NT), he may not have meant greater in a more spectacular sense. Perhaps it was in a moral sense. Many early Christian groups were vegetarian.
Paul, human flesh is probably tasty since many people around the globe eat monkey meat.
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Filter = awesome. I was all, shit, I've read the bible. How did I miss that part?
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Also, there's that other bit in the Gospels where Jesus directly created several thousand giraffe to be food for humans.
Now there's a religion I could get on board with.
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Jorge, you are rad. I've got nothing to say at this juncture, but I will certainly think on that whole post.
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damn I need to catch up on y'alls jibber jab jab
so anyway, I'm gonna try this puppy:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817270022
SIIG SC-SA0G12-S1 2.5" & 3.5" Black USB2.0 & eSATA Hard Drive Duplicator
$52.98 + $5 shipping.
I was gonna try the startech, but I have one of their docks that failed, and upon taking it apart I was not inspired by the looks of the internal hardware, nor was I inspired by the fact that it failed...
In other news... I have a cheap-o Epson scanner... so I try to launch the scan program, and it gives an error that it can't write to drive or some such, and then it closes... I'm like... WTF... obviously, what happened is I told it to use an external drive as a destination and/or temp file storage, and now I don't have said drive hooked up anymore, so the program is crashing.
solution 1) (keep in mind I'm on windows xp) open a command window and type in:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\admin>subst f: e:\
C:\Documents and Settings\admin>
voila, the f drive now exists (mapped to the e drive) without me having to go to the trouble to physically mount another drive.
solution 2) buy a Mac and/or don't buy epson. This option, of course, costs money.
solution 3) run linux. And why not, if you're already having to mess with a command like just to get your windows gui to work.
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PROS:
* slightly better instructions than industry average
* low price
* noisy cooling fan can be disconnected with screwdriver
* small lightweight power brick
* ROHS compliant
* power supply appears to be a quality switching supply
* nice styling of the case
* Copy of a PGP encrypted drive worked fine
CONS:
** Manual does not discuss what level of copy is done, if sectors marked as bad on the target drive are preserved as bad or if they or are used...
HUGE CON: ** When inserting a 2nd drive, I find that the computer loses connection with the 1st drive. This is likely due to the power brick not supplying enough power for the 1st drive to keep running while the 2nd drive spins up. I guess I can work around this, but not having this documented is terrible. It could result in loss of data and corruption, depending on what you are doing at the time.
** noisy cooling fan
** cooling fan does not appear to go into sleep mode when/if hard drives go into sleep mode.
** no discussion of hard drive sleep mode in the instructions so I'm not even sure if sleep mode will work with this device yet.
** cooling fan can be disconnected but can not be replaced
**lights are annoyingly bright blue
**instructions are confusing and misleading if you have less than intermediate technical knowledge
**have to physically disconnect in order to copy
**the indicator light human interface is counter-intuitive, so the copy in-progress/finished indication may confuse you unless you read the instructions.
**power brick awkwardly placed in middle of cord.
**power button requires too much pressure to activate, is likely to bounce as a result.
**copy button requires too little pressure to activate...
**manual says how to 'confirm' the copy command, but there is no discussion in the manual of how to abort if you accidentally press the copy button...
having to physically disconnect the USB cable in order to copy is inconvenient, and will cause premature wear to the USB connectors which are rated for a finite number of cycles.
you can pop the bottom off to disconnect the cooling fan cable from the plug on the PC board, but you dare not pull the PC board from the case because it's an interference fit. It's amazing they can assemble this thing without causing damage to the PC board component solder connections because it's such a tight fit. The fan is unfortunately under the PC board so replacing it with a quiet fan is off limits. unfortunately, because of this, if you drop a coin or other object into the open top of the unit, you won't be able to open it up to retrieve it without putting a dangerous amount of stress on the PC board.
In summary, this device is fine if you have intermediate technical knowledge, but if you're a newbie, you may find this device to be frustrating in some respects.
2 yr warranty is some consolation.