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Trivial Pursuits => People & Places => Topic started by: Nabubrush on November 24, 2011, 02:42:34 pm
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Hey, happy day to all those who celebrate it. Do they have thanksgiving in Oz? Anyway, salutations to you and yours. I'll be celebrating here at work (seventh big year!) but at least I'll get to watch some throw-ball. You kids have fun out there!
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man, I forgot what psychos my friends from highschool are. Every single one of them moved to NYC and I am already sick of hearing about the F train or whatever.
Also my old pal who I see twice a year still thinks She Knows Me and tries to do this whole "I'm your friend so I can say mean things that aren't true and say that you just won't admit they're true" thing. Bizarre. Also: she is such a bullshitter that she claims to know things about St Louis when I start to tell her things. "You think I don't know about Cherokee street? I live in Williamsburg, man."
I am really, really happy to be spending thanksgiving with my family. There will be lots of food, and I will make my parents drink hot apple cider with rye whiskey in it. Yum.
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If you wanna get from certain hip spots in Brooklyn to certain others, Dan, you gotta take the J into Manhattan and then flip to the F back to Brooklyn.
There is a key weird reason why the F might come up, it is involved in the conspiracy to put you into Manhattan if you wanna get anywhere in Brooklyn by train.
My hint to you for blowing their minds would be to mention that on the G line, the G stands for "Good Luck Getting Anywhere On This Train".
It is the only major line that does not have a stop in Manhattan, it is under continuous ridiculous repair stoppages and it fuck*ng sucks on toast.
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yeah, I have actually experienced that annoying thing where you have to go into Manhattan. And a different set of annoying friends insisted that we call a cab because they were too frustrated by having to do that. This made me so mad.
TIME FOR PIES.
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The G train is fuck*ng useless. No person alive or dead has ever said "Man I really need to get from Classon Ave to Steinway St and I need that shit to be indirect. Manhattan can eat a dick."
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A lot of people are calling bullshit on this subway talk. Y'all need to take the g line to another slice of pie
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well i didnt choke any greedy asshole soccermoms and i didnt get trampled. first black friday as a retail-dude=a success. i just got home and ate the hell out of some apple pie. bed time will follow shortly.
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you're supposed to take the L train only and use a bike for anything else. duh.
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That's how I know I ain't no hipster, at least not a full-blood.
I take the J into Manhattan and when I wanna get around Brooklyn, I drive.
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The J is one of the nicest and most useful lines. I don't know what Paul means about calling bullshit on the G train talk. I have been trapped on the G train and asked myself if it was a Milgram experiment run by the MTA.
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The J is one of the nicest and most useful lines. I don't know what Paul means about calling bullshit on the G train talk. I have been trapped on the G train and asked myself if it was a Milgram experiment run by the MTA.
He just doesn't want to hear it is the thing.
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"Would you like to get from a random point in the western tip of Queens to a random point about halfway into Brooklyn? That doesn't sound inconvenient enough for you? How about we get to rebuilding a stop in the middle of that completely arbitrary line so that you have to transfer from point to point on the line via bus in a sketchy part of town? Still not fuck*ng idiotic enough? Okay, if you act now, we'll occasionally just shut the whole fuck*ng thing down on weekends without warning? NOW HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY?"
What do you think you're running from, person in charge of the G-line? The disease is inside of you.
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I don't know what Paul means about calling bullshit on the G train talk.
My theory is that Paul prefers the A train (http://youtu.be/bHRbEhLj540), like I do. (Note: Though I have been to NYC, I have not taken the subway there.)
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Man, I hate it when I go to ride my hoss and he craps in the barn before we can get out on the trail and just leave it to nature.
public transportation will not kick you in the jewels. win some, lose some.
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public transportation will not kick you in the jewels. win some, lose some.
Although feces is often involved.
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He just doesn't want to hear it is the thing.
Actually, I find it interesting, but at the time I was more interested in Thanksgiving, which is what this thread was once about.
My theory is that Paul prefers the A train (http://youtu.be/bHRbEhLj540), like I do. (Note: Though I have been to NYC, I have not taken the subway there.)
I have been to NYC and I even have a set of subway pictures (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmcd9/sets/72157608077035368/). And yes I did take the A Train (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmcd9/5368449620/). I even referenced the same video in the caption for the picture.
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My theory is that Paul prefers the A train (http://youtu.be/bHRbEhLj540), like I do. (Note: Though I have been to NYC, I have not taken the subway there.)
How could you be in NYC and not take the subway??
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I frequently have dreams where i am in Paris and decide that all I want is to take the Metro around all day.
...I really need to live in a city with better public transport. I am never tempted to just ride the bus around here.
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It is understandable on that count, though, Dan.
Buses are the kind of horror that either disproves the concept of a higher power or, at least, proves there is a functional evil counterpoint to a higher power.
If I can never ride another bus again in my life, I will count myself as not having failed on that point.
Cars or trains, please. Planes when I have to.
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How could you be in NYC and not take the subway??
Well, I only spent a little time in the city - I was stuck out in Long Island with an (ex) girlfriend most of the time. Plus when I first got there I came down with strep throat. Fun vacation, I can assure you.
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Oh. Riding the bus is fine, and I would do it if it werent more expensive than driving due to our broke-ass transit agency and my short commute. I would definitely hate it if I had to deal with waiting for transfers in 20 degree weather. Which is my impression of the average STL commute by bus.
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I'm with LFM, my goal in life is never to ride a bus again. Buses combine all the worst features of public transit with all the worst features of cars. Also, maybe the bus is different in St Louis but most places I have lived, only poor people take the bus, because it sucks so hard because only people with no alternative ride it.
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I'm all up in the Kool-Aid, but the bus in Portland is quite democratic. A real cross-section of folks, including lots of shockingly attractive people.
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I don't like the bus. I would never ride one on purpose. I can never figure out where they are going.
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Yeah, the reason I said only most places I have lived and not all, is that I can't remember there being anything wrong with the bus in Toronto.
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You can get where you want to go in my home city walking faster than you can get there on the bus. The damn routes meander all the hell over and back.
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Also, maybe the bus is different in St Louis but most places I have lived, only poor people take the bus, because it sucks so hard because only people with no alternative ride it.
Yeah, but also some of my friends take it to save money/as an environmental thing. Also, I live along a major bus route that is relatively easy to understand. It goes straight to where my internship is, but due to a major bridge being out it takes about twice as long as it should. It also has a stop along the Metro line, which means I could get to my girlfriend's house, my job, etc. pretty easily. Unfortunately the schedule sucks, the aforementioned bridge is out, and the pricing is inconvenient (buying a monthly pass costs the same as 4 weekly passes, you have to ride the bus ~4 times a day to break even).
The other wrench in the plan is that if my LAZY GIRLFRIEND would have gone down to the college parking office and gotten a free metro pass, I could have been taking the bus everywhere for free.
A positive that may be more relevant to my lifestyle than to some of yours: if I take the bus to a bar, i can drink as much as I want. I can even drink BEFORE I go to the bar. Showing up to a concert already drunk and knowing I don't have to worry about driving home is a major plus.
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A positive that may be more relevant to my lifestyle than to some of yours: if I take the bus to a bar, i can drink as much as I want.
At this point, you'll fit right in with the typical bus user.
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At this point, you'll fit right in with the typical bus user.
Well, as soon as you piss yourself.
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A positive that may be more relevant to my lifestyle than to some of yours: if I take the bus to a bar, i can drink as much as I want. I can even drink BEFORE I go to the bar. Showing up to a concert already drunk and knowing I don't have to worry about driving home is a major plus.
You can do that on a subway too and it doesn't take two hours to go seven miles.
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true. I want to live somewhere with a subway, or El or whatever, that actually works. The one here is nice (in that it goes to where my grocery store is, where my girlfriend is, and to the airport) but I have to take a bus or drive to get to it.
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Alls I know is I've lived in three places big enough for a bus system of any significance: Syracuse, Los Angeles and New York City.
The buses in Syracuse and Los Angeles were disgusting, unsafe, slow as fuck-all and completely unreliable.
The buses in New York City are merely disgusting, unsafe, slow as fuck-all and mostly unreliable.
This might be different in Canada but Canada basically gets every public sector thing better than we do.
Still, even in a Canadian metropolis, if they have trains, the trains are probably still 1000% better than the buses.
The Toronto subway is probably like being in the fuck*ng Jetsons if they have one.
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Ha-ha!
/Nelson
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The Toronto subway is actually quite mild-mannered.
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Buses are the kind of horror that either disproves the concept of a higher power or, at least, proves there is a functional evil counterpoint to a higher power.
If I can never ride another bus again in my life, I will count myself as not having failed on that point.
My friend in Seattle posted this as her status last night:
Some dude just got kicked off this bus for smoking crack. Happy Friday, everyone!
I agree, buses suck. I may start taking the light rail to work (the light rail here is pretty good) but it's a pretty long walk to the closest stop. The stop does have a parking lot but some of the lots are notorious for break-ins (I've been a victim) so I might be taking a bus for a bit every morning.
Get yourself a 1982 boom box, blare some Berlin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pRUGsB1qGY) at the world for the day and film it.
This YouTube redesign is throwing me off. It took me too long to figure out which tab I needed to go to to hit replay on that shit!
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Buses suck if they don't let you smoke crack on them, that's for sure.
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Having ridden all forms of Toronto's public transit, which includes an inter-linking series of subways, streetcars and buses, and having only my lowly home town to really compare to (I've been on other city's public transit, but not in any in depth way) I have to say Toronto's transit system is pretty fuck*ng awesome. The last time I was on a subway in Toronto, I was on my way to my play's opening, wearing a gown and silver high heels, and I wasn't the only one that well dressed either. It seemed the subway was full of non scary, non pee-smelling people, so just that makes it totally different from my local transit. The thing that really pleased me about Toronto's buses is that unlike my local buses, which have two sets of two seaters with a tiny isle, the Toronto buses I've been on have one row of two seaters on one side of one seaters that allow the solo traveler to sit without having a stranger press against them. And, oh, yeah - you walk up to a stop for a bus/subway car/street car, and during peak hours, one just shows up shortly there after to get you efficiently where you need to go - no need to check a schedule or anything. If you tried that in my city, you could end up waiting a half hour or more, or even be standing at a stop that for whatever scheduling reason, the buses skip for no logical reason.
I guess part of the beauty of how it all runs so well in Toronto is that it's a city designed as a grid, so understanding where you need to go and how the transit system is designed is fairly simple. After my first week in TO I was giving other people directions. Seriously, a guy asked me directions and I could tell him where to go without a map. Unlike my city, which is spread over two major rivers that seem to have caused city planners to go "oh well, fuck it, we'll just put streets wherever, to hell with logic."
When it comes to my local transit, the riders are overwhelmingly of the marginalized set, so things get interesting fairly regularly. (http://www.winnipegbusstories.com/2011/03/winnipeg-transit-is-consistently-epic.html)
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St Louis is on a grid, but... all the good roads are not part of the grid. Also, train tracks and highways and a big river distort/destroy the grid.
In the north part of the city, where my internship is, the street grid was planned when that area was several separate towns. So the grid shifts at bizarre angles to follow the shape of the river.
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My favorite non-grid section of Portland (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=portland,+OR&hl=en&ll=45.508227,-122.648599&spn=0.009293,0.016329&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=42.85226,66.884766&vpsrc=6&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&z=16).
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the Toronto buses I've been on have one row of two seaters on one side of one seaters that allow the solo traveler to sit without having a stranger press against them.
NY has the same buses. Only the lines with the heaviest volume of passengers have 2 x 2's. The more common 1's + 2's tend to have a hossshoe of seating in the back of the bus behind the back door. Very useful for communal conversation. Five seats across the back, three seats along the doorside window, four seats opposite those, then three more opposite the back door which fold up for wheelchair seating. These are the best seats, because you can put your legs up and lay across several seats.
The danger with the single seat is that if the bus becomes crowded and there are no seats left, the single seat passengers become more likely to have a standing stranger's junk next to their face.
However I too vowed to never take a bus again. Since I received my license (a month away from ten years now, shit) I've taken one maybe twice. On numerous instances I've taken a 45 minute plus walk in lieu of taking the bus.