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@achewood Sssshhh...I'm discovering Sleater-Kinney. This is a special time in a boy's life.

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 on: Today at 06:41:06 pm 
Started by AugustWest - Last post by pmcd9
AW is wise.

True!

You are our collective large adult son, and we believe in you.

Also true.

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 on: Today at 06:33:40 pm 
Started by pmcd9 - Last post by pmcd9
But yeah, the "it's like" would help. Although Ash has a point, too.

I chose to clarify my post, but now I think I should have left it alone. My expectation, my hope that people would share with me my joy at seeing Pi's eyes light up when I handed him a huge juicy steak bone is now lost anyway. You may have noticed Alohadawg in there chastising me for my poor choice of words. I think he is sore because I like to give him shit over the Cleveland Browns.

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 on: Today at 03:59:38 pm 
Started by AugustWest - Last post by wombat
Wow, I'm not sure I'd call this a low moment, because this may be the only time in your life that you have a boss who's looking out for you to this extent. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything. Take this opportunity and make the most of it.

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 on: Today at 03:13:41 pm 
Started by AugustWest - Last post by Asherdan
ALSO: you're always going to have to learn new stuff, forever. Try to make as much of it as you can your kind of jam.

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 on: Today at 03:12:10 pm 
Started by AugustWest - Last post by Asherdan
Really good things from EggMan and The Mayor.

This is a great chance to assess where you are and where you can see yourself going now that you've been in the facility long enough to know shit from shinola. Really, you should be making this king of assessment more regularly than you'd like, it keeps you from running too far down poor pathways.

It's super-duper easy to come out of this kind of review feeling shitty because it's super easy to focus on your short comings. Please realize that your (very good) boss is doing this because he sees enough from you to care to try to help you develop, that there are worthy things about your skill set and approach already.

Hang in there, use what you know to use this time effectively for yourself.

Relax, it's only your life

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 on: Today at 12:54:31 pm 
Started by AugustWest - Last post by Carlos del Vaca
AW is wise. I would also add a) you are lucky to have a boss who cares about growing your career rather than just getting the job done, and b) the flip side of the Dunning-Kruger Effect is that imposter syndrome. You are probably much better at things than you think you are; realizing that you still have a lot to learn doesn't make you bad at your job.

You are our collective large adult son, and we believe in you.

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 on: Today at 12:43:45 pm 
Started by AugustWest - Last post by AugustWest

But that seems a little iffy to me-- whether I could really get to the point where I'm on the level of my colleagues who are more math-brained and math-trained than I am.


First of all, don't sell yourself short.  Why can't you learn these math skills?  Math ain't nothing but a thing.

Secondly, you don't have to be on the level of your colleagues who have been exercising this skill set for years already.  I'm sure your boss doesn't expect that.  Growth in the right direction is what he's looking for.  Baby steps toward minimum competency will take you a long way. As Jake the sage said, "sucking at something is the first step toward becoming sorta good at something."  You'll never get to their level if you don't start walking down the road.

Third, consider what you really want out of your work life.  Maybe you perceive your current job to be more prestigious or advantageous to your career than the Brooklyn section or some other job entirely.  And that may well be true.  But if what you do all day makes you feel miserable, or unqualified, or evil, or just unhappy then it is not worth it.  This is what you'll spend 2000 hours a year for the next 30 years or so doing.  It doesn't just affect your life, it IS your life.  Do something you at least sort of kind of enjoy doing, that's suited to your personality.  And I don't mean in a hippy dippy run off and join the circus kind of way (necessarily, although if you can pull it off, go for it!).  Even within the bounds of Good ol' normal American wage slavery there's plenty of room to find a job that's at least approximately right for you, especially for a fellow with your resume.  If crunching data ain't never going to work for you, trying to force it to is just going to make you miserable.  There's no shame in adjusting your career goals once you learn more about your own abilities and preferences.

Sorry to Dad out on you, but it took me a long time to find a job that I liked instead of a job that I was supposed to want.  You got this shit.

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 on: Today at 01:28:45 am 
Started by AugustWest - Last post by theinevitable
Real rough meeting at work today. My boss has mentioned several times that he wants me to "own" a project in the division (population analysis division) so I can learn and grow. Then today we had a meeting about it. He had written everything he has planned for the next 3 years up on the board, and then we went through together and crossed out everything someone else is doing, that I don't know how to do (statistics heavy or geographic analysis stuff that one of our PhDs should do), or don't want to do. The result was... very few things. Entirely things where I'd be helping someone else, doing repetitive double-check type tasks.

Yeesh.

He talked a lot about how he thinks I'm so smart, he enjoys working with me, etc, but also how he doesn't want me to end up like [two people who left this year] who eventually got in a rut and hated working here. He suggested that I take a few weeks to think over whether I'd be interested in transferring to the Brooklyn section of the Department of City Planning to do more traditional city planning stuff (neighborhood outreach, approving building plans, etc). The alternative is that we work together to come up with some projects to expand my skills here, doing data/statistical type stuff. But that seems a little iffy to me-- whether I could really get to the point where I'm on the level of my colleagues who are more math-brained and math-trained than I am.

He emphasized that he wants me to do what will make me happy and help me advance my career. He told me an anecdote about a time in his career where he had to make a big decision about whether to make a change and do something else and how he agonized over it.

And everything he said was true, and I've been saying ever since I started that my data chops are not up to working in this section, but it still sucked to hear. It sucks to feel like for the past year and a half he's been watching me and mentally noting all my weaknesses. I entirely believe he meant this in the most positive way and really does just want me to find the right place for me. But. Ugh. A low moment.

Came home and walked to the GF's house and she had ordered thai food and we ate it and then walked to get ice cream. It's a beautiful evening in Brooklyn. And it's so nice having someone to come (kind of) home to.

(we also discussed moving in together in 2019... lately I am seeing 1 bedroom apartments that are KILLING me with desire)

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 on: Yesterday at 07:41:29 pm 
Started by pmcd9 - Last post by wombat
When I read that I had like 50 milliseconds of panic - only exactly as long as it took to get to the second sentence. It's inexplicable that anyone could read the whole post, even before the edit, and be unclear what it meant. It makes me despair as a writer - god knows how few people actually understand my carefully composed articles.

It's probably also an effect of the context though - not only is Facebook a place on the internet that is not peopled by the cream of the crop, also, it feels to me like there's a whole lot of announcements of dead dogs there. But still, once you read the whole thing, WTF.

But yeah, the "it's like" would help. Although Ash has a point, too.

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 on: Yesterday at 06:54:26 pm 
Started by pmcd9 - Last post by Asherdan
I think you need not step in front of the hilarious train wreck.

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