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« on: August 08, 2003, 05:27:35 am »
Is there some sort of Zappa/Achewood axis?  I've noticed at least three of us (myself, Slink and El Guapo himself) are fans of Frank.  Anybody else?

Which period/types of Zappa's music is your favorite?  Ever see him live?  Will Mary ever make it back to the tool shed in Canoga Park?
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2003, 05:46:50 am »
I like to listen to him when ...umm... when the sign is "that life is awesome".
Makes me giggle,"right up the poop shute" *snort*
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2003, 08:43:42 am »
Well, I'm fairly fond of a lot of Zappa. He is in my opinion possibly the finest guitarrist to have ever lived, at least technically. I mean, Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan were great, but Zappa just had something they didn't - faster, cleaner, more imaginative I think.
The album that when I was a kid got me hooked was Joe's Garage. Hysterical album. And the Mothers were pretty damn fine.
I have to agree, when 'life is awesome' some Zappa goes down perfectly!
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2003, 02:34:27 pm »
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Is there some sort of Zappa/Achewood axis?


It's the Axis of Dweezil

I only wish I had made that up.
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2003, 03:49:52 pm »
Hot Rats = #1
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2003, 05:06:25 pm »
There are so many great Zappa albums...

Here's a short list of my faves:

Fillmore East, 1971
Hot Rats
Apostrophe
Overnight Sensation
We're Only In It For The Money
Burnt Weenie Sandwich
Weezels Ripped My Flesh
Cruising with Ruben and the Jets
Joe's Garage
Live in New York
Uncle Meat
One Size Fits All

And that's the *short* list.  There are over 100 Zappa albums now, if you include all of the officially released live and previously unreleased posthumous stuff.

The man was prolific, and he (rarely) repeated himself.

Just amazing...
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2003, 05:08:41 pm »
And I think the Zappa/Achewood affinity is simple:  both are very funny, and both are diligent artists (zappa more than onstad, but hey, he's young yet) and both took their silliness very seriously.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2003, 05:13:13 pm »
Favorite Zappa - You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Volume 2: The Helsinki Concert.
     The same band from Roxy and Elsewhere, but after having toured for a full year.  The band is on fire, and Zappa's guitar playing is unbelievable.  

     Also features the version of "Montana" where someone mistakes Frank for Duane Allman and requests "Whipping Post."  Hilarity ensues.

      I'm also fond of:

      We're Only In It For the Money
      Apostrophe / Overnite Sensation
      Sheik Yerbouti
      Tinseltown Rebellion
      Ship Arriving Too Late To Save a Drowning Witch
      YCDTOSA Vol. 3
 
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2003, 05:24:48 pm »
I very much agree with the lists presented.  Hot Rats and Burnt Weeny Sandwich are two of my all time favorite albums, bar none.  Joe's Garage is also wonderful, in my book it's the best of the humorous material.  Great instrumental work on there, too (especially Acts II and III, the guitar solos when Joe is in prison are astounding).

One album that I really like, but haven't seen mentioned is Sleep Dirt.  All instrumental, but a mellower feel than Hot Rats.  The Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar triology are great, too.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2003, 07:09:13 pm »
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 Joe's Garage is also wonderful, in my book it's the best of the humorous material.  Great instrumental work on there, too (especially Acts II and III, the guitar solos when Joe is in prison are astounding).


Yea, just to go with my finest guitarrist ever theory, the solo (song) Watermelon in Easter Hay, where he's just "worked himself into an imaginary frenzy during the fadeout of his imaginary song. He begins to feel depressed now, he knows the end is near..." is just sublime guitar work!
Ah, 9 years now and I'm still not that good. Goddamnit! One day...
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2003, 07:30:20 pm »
For my money, "Cruising for Burgers" is about the most insane guitar work ever.

Especially the live version on "Zappa In New York" (I don't even know if there's a studio version... dang, now I can't remember).

And said live album also starts off with the very funny "Titties and Beer" which goes from the ridiculous to the sublime in about six minutes.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2003, 07:47:06 pm »
Oh yea, you're right. Watermelon... isn't in any way his best guitar, it's just... beautiful. A real kind of melancholy, lie back, have life be awesome and pretend just for a moment you can play like that!
I desperately need to update my Zappa collection - like getting it on CD now. Where was I read that - Vinyl's are like velvet, CD's are like Linen sheets, and tapes are like a crinolyn sweater your great-aunt gave you for christmas... "Put it on honey, it *really* suits you".
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2003, 08:14:20 pm »
I went through a period of about eight years when the vast majorityof stuff I listened to was Zappa. Uncle Meat is probably my favorite album, particularly "King Kong".
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2003, 05:32:33 am »
Pulled out Fillmore East '71 to listen to as a result of this thread.  Excellent, excellent, excellent.  Nice mix of the bawdy and the divine.  Terrific version of Peaches en Regalia ('bout my favorite song, with Sofa #2).  Gotta go do the Mudshark now.  Bye.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2003, 05:40:08 am »
Oh yeah, almost forgot.  

Here's what the worthies at RealPlayer had to allow about FZ.  Came up when I stuck the CD in the computer.

"Incredibly influential musician who has had a direct influence on jazz, rock, Jazz-Rock, Comedy, and Captain Beefheart. "

...and Captain Beefheart.  Do I see a Captain Beefheart thread on the horizon.  And that could only lead to a discussion of Firesign Theater.
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