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Voting closed: December 23, 2004, 11:53:00 pm


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philelly

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« on: December 23, 2004, 11:51:15 pm »
Dear chris,
I'm a longtime fan, clothing buyer, serializer member, etc etc.  I loved the strip, but lately i think it lacks its former punch--i don't laugh out loud anymore.  has the direction of the strip changed?  are you spending less time on the strip, in favor of your business ventures, blogs, etc?  i love the blogs and other humor on the site, but i hate to see the strip suffer, because it is really the heart of the site, as well as the first thing that new visitors read.  you should devote your energy on what you see fit, but I think you should be aware of this perceived trend; I'm posting this here because I don't think I am alone in noticing this.

To those on the board: If you disagree, just don't post anything and this thread will disappear naturally.  I really don't want anyone to flame.

Sincerely,
A Concerned Fan

edit: added poll.  if you disagree, please let me know via the poll.
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2004, 12:17:04 am »
Please don't take this as a flame, because it isn't.  If you've been around here long at all you'll realize that we accept (welcome?) negative opinion as well as positive.  So you are free to express that thought in this forum as far as I'm concerned.

However.

I don't agree.  I think the strips lately have been wonderful.  Just this week, the manes thing has been great.  As far as the blogs go, I see them as another window in the Achewood -- another way to learn more about the characters and goings on in Achewoodlandtown.  To me, that's hardly a bad thing.
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2004, 12:36:32 am »
thanks for your opinion.  i'd be happy to hear if my view is not shared by any.
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2004, 01:41:43 am »
Phil, I can't get behind this. I love all of Mr. Onstad's work, and i just want him to like me.

Actually, I think the flavor of the strip has changed, but I don't think it is suffering any. I think we periodically see some of the old feel of the strip, but mostly I think he is stretching more now, and, as someone who has been reading since Nov/Dec 2001, I enjoy the whole Achewood experience more now than I ever did. I was going to say that I think it would be hard to give someone a single recent strip and expect them to "get" Achewood, but then I went back through and looked at this. Only two weeks old, and a perfect stand-alone strip.

Having said all that, please don't think that we reject a reasoned, well-thought-out addition to the discourse here just because it is critical. Criticism is welcome, certainly. Trolling, which we've all seen plenty of here and at the old place, basically drives me away for a while. So, welcome and happy holidays, philelly.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2004, 03:32:50 am »
Phil, respectfully, I think you're full of it. But this is a support group for people who are full of it, so welcome.
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2004, 03:38:16 am »
Quote from: "philelly"
To those on the board: If you disagree, just don't post anything and this thread will disappear naturally.


I just wanted to add that things don't work this way.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2004, 03:57:54 am »
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Phil, respectfully, I think you're full of it. But this is a support group for people who are full of it, so welcome.


Speaking personally, I think all wrong-thinking people are right.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2004, 04:27:01 am »
Bring back hanging and go into rope.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2004, 04:43:55 am »
Any creative artist who's been around a while gets crap like this. I've been getting emails telling me I've "jumped the shark" or "just plain lost it" since about October 2, 2001.

Seriously, folks, I never even had it in the first place. Stop e-mailing me.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2004, 04:49:54 am »
interesting avatar there, mr. onstad...do you have meconium yet?  if not, soon?  just curious.
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2004, 04:51:25 am »
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I was going to say that I think it would be hard to give someone a single recent strip and expect them to "get" Achewood, but then I went back through and looked at this. Only two weeks old, and a perfect stand-alone strip.


That's funny, cause that's the exact strip I showed my mom in an attempt to convert her to Achewood fandom. She laughed, though I don't know if she reads the strip every day now.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2004, 05:46:05 am »
I don't think the strip has been up to par in say, the past two weeks, but that hardly represents a *trend*.

And there's a lot to like about even the recent strips.  

Every artist will have a slump from time to time, but that's the price of free entertainment.

The strip hasn't really been as *edgy* in the past few months as it had a year or so ago, so maybe that's what you're picking up on.  But it's still bringing "the funny," sitting it down at the kiddie table, and cutting up its meat into bite-sized chunks.
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2004, 07:58:49 am »
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Phil, respectfully, I think you're full of it. But this is a support group for people who are full of it, so welcome.


Speaking personally, I think all wrong-thinking people are right.


Hey, no political talk in this thread!

Although that does explain a lot. ...
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2004, 05:17:02 pm »
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Every artist will have a slump from time to time, but that's the price of free entertainment.


Think of how badly some entertainers that require payment have slumped!

I'll leave the exercise of filling in specific entertainers to the reader, as your results may vary. But you know exactly whom I'm talking about.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2004, 11:21:01 pm »
I for one think Achewood hasn't jumped any sharks, nor do I see it doing so anytime soon. I just needed to say this seeing that tommorow is Christmas, today is Christmas Eve and yesterday was Festivus.

So to Chris I say: Thanks and Happy Holidays.
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