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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2005, 05:22:27 am »
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My aunt dated Jim Varney (Ernest) when she was 13. I'm not sure how well known he is, but, umm, yeah, this guy:


Oh yeah?  I have a cousin who dated Hunter S. Thompson in the 60's.

Also, don't diss Jim Varney.  He's a native Kentuckian (LEX) who made reasonably good.  Kinda like Ed McLanahan.
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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2005, 05:25:28 am »
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Also, don't diss Jim Varney.  He's a native Kentuckian (LEX) who made reasonably good.  Kinda like Ed McLanahan.

I can respect Jim Varney if only because he apparently managed to make a good living making Earnest movies, which seems like no mean feat. I know basically nothing about his life, but I hope it was a fulfilling career.
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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2005, 05:32:57 am »
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Also, don't diss Jim Varney.  He's a native Kentuckian (LEX) who made reasonably good.  Kinda like Ed McLanahan.

I can respect Jim Varney if only because he apparently managed to make a good living making Earnest movies, which seems like no mean feat. I know basically nothing about his life, but I hope it was a fulfilling career.

If Jim Varney is a little better looking, he's Jim Carrey.

Geez, I'm not trying to beatify the guy or anything.  He just deserves a li'l respect.  Sure he made up a goofy character.  But he made up a funnygoofy character.  No question, he's as lowbrow as it gets.  But he was a gifted comedian and there is unquestionably humor (OK, stupid humor) in his work.  The fact that we all know his name should indicate something.  Know what I mean Vern?
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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2005, 06:09:04 am »
Hahaha, I joke about Jim Varney, but I love the guy. KY WHAT WHAT.
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« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2005, 06:36:52 am »
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My aunt dated Jim Varney (Ernest) when she was 13. I'm not sure how well known he is, but, umm, yeah, this guy:


Oh yeah?  I have a cousin who dated Hunter S. Thompson in the 60's.

Also, don't diss Jim Varney.  He's a native Kentuckian (LEX) who made reasonably good.  Kinda like Ed McLanahan.


My aunt went on a date with Kevin Bacon.  Before Footloose, though.
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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2005, 06:49:52 am »
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Also, don't diss Jim Varney.  He's a native Kentuckian (LEX) who made reasonably good.  Kinda like Ed McLanahan.

I can respect Jim Varney if only because he apparently managed to make a good living making Earnest movies, which seems like no mean feat. I know basically nothing about his life, but I hope it was a fulfilling career.

If Jim Varney is a little better looking, he's Jim Carrey.

Geez, I'm not trying to beatify the guy or anything.  He just deserves a li'l respect.  Sure he made up a goofy character.  But he made up a funnygoofy character.  No question, he's as lowbrow as it gets.  But he was a gifted comedian and there is unquestionably humor (OK, stupid humor) in his work.  The fact that we all know his name should indicate something.  Know what I mean Vern?


Except that teeny tiny detail of the fact that he's been dead for several years. Pretty funny guy, though.
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2005, 02:29:40 pm »
Oy vey, you hardly have to be 'extremely conservative' to disagree with Chomsky's politics.

A short answer to what I have against him is difficult, but here's an attempt:  I felt that the cult of personality around him was very bad for the field of linguistics.  And I found there was a hypocritical disconnect between his political beliefs and his status in linguistics - he's all 'question authority' in politics, but anyone who questions his views in linguistics (despite the fact that he himself says opposite things at different points) is an idiot.

I could rant, but I'll stop there.
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2005, 06:04:10 pm »
God, wombat, that is seriously the best reason I've ever heard. I'm not even being a dick. The day that I am grown up enough to say, "I felt that the cult of personality around him was very bad for the field of linguistics.", will be the happiest day of my life. I always knew he was originally a linguistics person, and wondered if he really was as hot-shit as the documentaries made him out to be. Thank god we have a resident linguistics disestablishmentarian.
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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2005, 07:08:58 pm »
My cousin dated Vern for awhile.  He proposed to her and everything but then jilted her at the alter.

Bastard.
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« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2005, 10:05:01 pm »
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I always knew he was originally a linguistics person, and wondered if he really was as hot-shit as the documentaries made him out to be. Thank god we have a resident linguistics disestablishmentarian.


I have never really spent all that much time reading or paying attention to Chomsky, for some reason, but I know that my folks (psychologist and philospher in respect to these kinds of topics) weren't big fans of Chomsky when it came to linguistics. But like I say, Chomsky and linguistics isn't something I've ever got round to reading up on. I probably will do now, since I'm intrigued.

Also, Vern?
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« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2005, 08:51:10 pm »
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My aunt dated Jim Varney (Ernest) when she was 13. I'm not sure how well known he is, but, umm, yeah, this guy:


Also, don't diss Jim Varney.  He's a native Kentuckian (LEX) who made reasonably good.  Kinda like Ed McLanahan.


Also a Shakespearean actor at 16, apparently. And Daddy and Them.
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« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2005, 09:28:47 pm »
Sundance is coming, so there is always the possibility I will bump into more of our intellectual and physical superiors.  Last year, I saw Melvin Van Peebles, Mario's father, and director/star/etc of Sweet Sweetback's Baad Asssss Song, which screened because Mario's Baadasssss!, a documentary about it, played.  It was only at a Q & A session though, so I didn't meet him.  Also, I saw much of the crew and cast of MVP, a movie starring Wood Harris (of the Wire, he also played Hendrix in a TV movie--no, he wasn't there) which hasn't been picked up apparently.  I thought it was pretty good.

I also saw Robin Tunney at a bar in Park City during a Sigur Ros show.  I didn't talk to her.  I'm not one to approach a famous type person unless I actually have something to say.
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« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2005, 10:32:34 pm »
Hey Bozack, how old was Jim Varney when your aunt dated him? 27?
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« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2005, 11:15:19 pm »
Nah, they were both like 13. Younguns, man. They went bowling.
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« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2005, 11:40:39 pm »
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Nah, they were both like 13. Younguns, man. They went bowling.


Thanks. My wife was like "who the hell is Jim Varney", and after I showed her the picture and mentioned the dating thing, she was concerned that it might have been untoward. Not because of the KY thing, I don't think.
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