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[arkabee]

i would posit that a difference exists between speedo wearers,
such that there would be two Archetypes:

1- i wear a speedo because i swim competitively.  to the end that i will win my competitions, i will wear ridiculously tight and small swimming apparel and shave every single hair on my body.  you know that medieval torture device that your girlfriend uses to RIP the hair out of her body?  the one that makes you cringe thinking about it?  ya, i've used that.  i am a warrior, a water warrior, and i shall vanguish all that oppose me.  rhhaaaawww!!

2- i am at the beach, and i am sexy, and you know you want me.  where's my cd player, i have to put that Rod Stewart song on.  Garcon!  Bring me my drink that has an umbrella in it!  some sexy lady, immediately rub oil upon my body!

i would also posit that both are ridiculous, but for possibly different reasons.


my next step, of course, is to attempt to get a govt grant to continue this intrinsically important research.


to stay on topic, i think any gender and any size that wears an inflatable bra, and then they pump up the inflaters to the point that they pop,

now,

that's funny.

[V-Adore]

to stay on topic, i think any gender and any size that wears an inflatable bra, and then they pump up the inflaters to the point that they pop,

now,

that's funny.

Spontaneous lingerie explosions will never not be funny.

[AlohaDawg]

what if the rilly big and large garter belts, push up bras, and thong panties are for FAT MEN?

is it ok to laugh at that?

Yes, but kicking their ass down the alley you met them in is still unacceptable.

The unspoken thing throughout this discussion is the concept of 'fat acceptance' and what kind of amusement you derive from the image of an overweight  or obese woman in lingerie. I can find the concept funny, a cartoon might be funny, but a photo or a real woman in front of me in lingerie would not be funny. There is a difference between a humorous fictional concept and a cruel reality (the cruelty being amusement or entertainment derived by the objectification / depersonalization of the o/w or obese woman)

As for fat acceptance, if you want to comment on that, go ahead but that's a minefield. I personally believe that in most cases, being within a reasonable percentage of your 'optimal' weight for your body type is healthy and I try to look at overly skinny and overly heavy people as equally unhealthy although the panoply of bad outcomes is a little broader for those who are overweight. I don't think as a society it is good to celebrate or promote any inherently unhealthy lifestyle and it's really a public health issue that's only starting to get the attention it deserves.

[arkabee]

what if the rilly big and large garter belts, push up bras, and thong panties are for FAT MEN?

is it ok to laugh at that?

Yes, but kicking their ass down the alley you met them in is still unacceptable.

One would assume that it is ok to laugh at clowns, and yet own would also assume that it is not acceptable to kick a clowns ass down an alley.

The unspoken thing throughout this discussion is the concept of 'fat acceptance' and what kind of amusement you derive from the image of an overweight  or obese woman in lingerie.

when the thread was openned, and i first gazed upon the picture of the lingerie store sign and i saw "6x", a large woman did not materialize in my head, but a very large thing panty did.

is the comedy portion of my brane as stunted as the other portions, yes.  however, the juxtaposition of  the concept of a thong panty (to me, string with an extremely small "patch" of "material") versus the actuallity of a 6x size thong panty (to me, string with an extremely large "patch" of "material") is funny.

so, to me, the presented reality of something that is the utter opposite of my accepted, conceptualized, expectation is comedic.

so, for this particular person, the acceptance (or unacceptance) of the variability of a gender's weight had nothing to do with it.

from my point of view, those who are "Accepting" of gender weight variability are the ones who brought up gender weight variability to begin with, whereas those [specifically, me]  who thought the original pciture constituted "humor" and are now being accused of both being unaccepting of gender weight variability AND of beating up in alleys those with variabilty of their gender's weight had originally not thought specifically about gender weight variability at all.

 I can find the concept funny, a cartoon might be funny, but a photo or a real woman in front of me in lingerie would not be funny. There is a difference between a humorous fictional concept and a cruel reality (the cruelty being amusement or entertainment derived by the objectification / depersonalization of the o/w or obese woman)

indeed, there is a difference.  and while i certainly would accept the fact that i am an insensitive asshole, i assumed that when i looked at the photo of a storefront with no people or persons present, that i was looking at a photo-representational-concept of an incredibly large thong panty, as oppsed to the cruel reality of an incredibly large thong panty.

As for fat acceptance, if you want to comment on that, go ahead but that's a minefield. I personally believe that in most cases, being within a reasonable percentage of your 'optimal' weight for your body type is healthy and I try to look at overly skinny and overly heavy people as equally unhealthy although the panoply of bad outcomes is a little broader for those who are overweight. I don't think as a society it is good to celebrate or promote any inherently unhealthy lifestyle and it's really a public health issue that's only starting to get the attention it deserves.

personally, i had hoped that to a certain extent that the News Media would have used the soapbox it had built out of the Mrs. Schiavo Tragedy to educate the "public" a little in regards to the obviously (in regards to the Tragedy) inherent dangers within eating disorders.

[Carlos del Vaca]

Speaking as someone who presumably is in the target audience, I have never seen a guy in a Speedo who looked even slightly good in it.

Not even that Michael Phelps dude?  I thought the ladies lerrrrrrrrrved him.

[pmcd9]

Not even that Michael Phelps dude?  I thought the ladies lerrrrrrrrrved him.

Guys too, he's the hunkiest.

~Paul

[V-Adore]

Speaking as someone who presumably is in the target audience, I have never seen a guy in a Speedo who looked even slightly good in it.

Not even that Michael Phelps dude?  I thought the ladies lerrrrrrrrrved him.

Well, I don't.

Also, Arkabee, I am not sure if you actually made a good point or if I'm just blinded by what appears to be a reference to the platonic concept of 6X thong under#####, but... wow. The platonic concept of 6X thong under#####, from which all 6X thong under##### reflect like dim shadows on the walls of the cave. This is an excellent comedy idea.

[AlohaDawg]

By "platonic" are you referring to the inherent "pantiness" of a 6x panty? The essence as it were?

Also, Ark, I can't figure out from your post if you are calling me an asshole or not, so could you clarify? I just meant to point out the difference between laughing at something and laughing at someone is all, while secondarily musing over our society's occupation with image, weight, and norming of the human aesthetic.

[arkabee]

By "platonic" are you referring to the inherent "pantiness" of a 6x panty? The essence as it were?

Also, Ark, I can't figure out from your post if you are calling me an asshole or not, so could you clarify? I just meant to point out the difference between laughing at something and laughing at someone is all, while secondarily musing over our society's occupation with image, weight, and norming of the human aesthetic.

i am indeed NOT calling you an asshole.

i did, however, attempt to "call you on" what i perceived to be a slight, possible, attempt at suggesting that i was kicking fat people in lingerie's asses down dark alleys.  i do, in fact, NOT do that, nor do i find it funny in and of itself.  other, unknown aspects might lend humor to the situation, however, such as slippage on banana peels.

I appreciate your difference pointing out, and was attempting to conversate in regards to that subject, and not attempting to call you an asshole.

[AugustWest]

If you're walking down the street and you fall into an open manhole, that's tragedy.

If you see your boss walking down the street and fall into an open manhole, that's comedy.

[AlohaDawg]

I guess by quoting you, it looks like I was addressing you - I just used your post as a jump off, I wasn't responding directly...sorry if that was ambiguous.

So a Schlemiel is the guy that falls in the manhole and
a Schlemazzle is the guy standing under the manhole with the Schlemiel coming down? Is that right?

And which one is funnier?

[Ben-San]

Other than this spelling of schlamazzel which I've never seen before that's basically it. Iirc schlamazzel translates more or less as "Never anything good".