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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2005, 12:04:44 am »

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Also pretentious pseudo-intellectual grammar-cop-wannabes.


Can't argue with that-- Seeing as my plan is to go to grad school for editing after I finish the cultural theory/philosophy degree, I've pretty much reconciled myself with being pretentious etc.


don't we have this conversation all the time?
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2005, 12:34:11 am »

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Once I pointed out to someone that she had spelled 'a lot' incorrectly in a note she was leaving for a friend and she responded with "it's not even a real word."  I think she had a point.  


Lovely.  Almost makes me wish I still taught a class I could use it in.  

I will interject the ritual admonition, which is that, while some of these things drive me crazy too,  soon everyone who is bothered by all the usages mentioned herein will die, and those usages will become standard.  Resistance is futile.

I now return to my regularly scheduled frog-keeper persona.  Hopefully.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2005, 04:19:21 am »

For me it's a delicate balance.  I believe there are an ever-changing set of prescriptive grammar, usage and spelling rules out there.  The rules are constantly, if slowly and subtly, changing through a descriptive process.

As a lawyer, I respect someone who knows the current state of the rules and is capable of navigating them artfully.  Artful navigation may also include flouting the prescriptive rules (see, Clemens, Samuel.)
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2005, 07:55:08 am »

Did I miss something?
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2005, 12:50:00 pm »

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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2005, 01:24:24 pm »

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"An historic" is only correct if you don't pronounce the h. So if you say "an 'istoric" that's fine but nobody actually says it this way.


Seriously.  Who says "An history of the world?"  Nobody, that's who.  So why all of a sudden "An historic thingie?"
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2005, 02:01:33 pm »

This thread has given all it has to give, It is now a withered husk. Please lock it.
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2005, 02:19:11 pm »

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Quote from: "CortJstr"
"An historic" is only correct if you don't pronounce the h. So if you say "an 'istoric" that's fine but nobody actually says it this way.


Seriously.  Who says "An history of the world?"  Nobody, that's who.  So why all of a sudden "An historic thingie?"


I usually say "an hilarious joke," as in "There is no better way to kill an hilarious joke than to analyze clinically its diction and grammar."
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2005, 04:19:44 pm »

You guys should really read The Slot. His big pet peeve us people resisting the singularfication of "media."
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2005, 04:40:40 pm »

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You guys should really read The Slot. His big pet peeve us people resisting the singularfication of "media."


How do you like your multiple steaks?

Media!
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2005, 07:56:42 pm »

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I apologize. It is just a pet peeve of mine.  It grips my brain like some kind of terrible.. gripping thing and compels me to correct you. It is like when you drink coffee and suddenly have to poop. IT IS EXACTLY LIKE THAT.


I compulsively correct people when they misuse the word "literally".
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2005, 08:08:37 pm »

Misuse of figures of speech is troublesome because it means that the speaker doesn't really know what they're saying.  If they don't even know what they're saying how am I supposed to figure out what they actually mean?
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2005, 08:13:24 pm »

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Once I pointed out to someone that she had spelled 'a lot' incorrectly in a note she was leaving for a friend and she responded with "it's not even a real word."


There is nothing wrong with "a lot".  No, it is not "a real word", it is two real words.
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2005, 08:21:37 pm »

Seeing "alot" on two different episodes of Good Eats made me die a little inside.
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2005, 04:16:41 am »

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Quote from: "miles"
Once I pointed out to someone that she had spelled 'a lot' incorrectly in a note she was leaving for a friend and she responded with "it's not even a real word."


There is nothing wrong with "a lot".  No, it is not "a real word", it is two real words.


I meant that she spelled it "alot."
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