Ok, if you wanna know, but I'm afraid much of it will come across as condescending. For example, the "Spiderman" series: to me those plots were at level with that Power Rangers drivel. From the setup to the payoff, with a few bright spots here and there, flashes of wit which give way to alarming levels of unsubtlety (is that even a word?) so that nobody is left behind. A... "fusion reactor" or something, that was gonna blow at the end. Please.
And Batman, well, I think they wasted a good concept with bad dialogue (I don't care who you are or who you think you know, you put one one-liner in a "serious" movie, you taint it for good and forever). The whole thing of having Batman being trained with Ra's Al Ghul was brilliant, it would have given space for them to talk about some relevant issues, in a relevant manner: Terrorism, idealism, fanaticism, the possibility of promoting change by other means than violence, and on the other hand the fact that sometimes some pricks just *have* to die in order to effect change (in this case they lost a good opportunity of having Batman display the razor sharp intelligence he's so known for in the comics: in the scene in the train, when he leaves Ra's Al Gul to die. It's implied that his reasoning is that if he lets Ra's live there'll always be a threat of some 9/11-type of incident occurring sooner or later, but it's still badly done and too quick - Batman didn't need to have to make this type of choice so early in his career.
A much better approach would be, IMHO: Ra's incapacitated on the floor, the train is racing towards the tower, Batman is preparing to leave. The're exchanging quips about Batman's nature as a terrorist who'll be as ruthless as Ra's. Batman doesn't like that, grabs Ra's by the collar, shakes him, saying: "I'm not a terrorist. I never killed people". Ra's replies something along the lines of "Well, it looks like this is about to change. You cannot have me living, Mr, Wayne". Batman smiles and says "I don't have to worry about it, Ra's; Didn't you say at the party that you were immortal?". Ra's understands where Batman is going and starts laughing. He even applauds, groaning, because Batman pummeled the shit out of him. "Congratulations, detective. I will not underestimate you again." Batman says: "Say it, Ra's, just say you're not immortal and I take you with me". "Go, detective. I will make you beg." Batman turns and leaves. He jumps out of the train, turns mid air and looks. Ra's saying something, looking fixedly at Batman, but we cannot hear what it is. Boom, etc).
Then you have that limping spaz Jim Gordon being a total mongoloid throughout the whole picture... I know there'll be never the perfect movie, everyone has changes they would like to do, and so on. But I think those guys dropped the ball in missing some excellent opportunities to make some memorable scenes.
As you are probably beginning to notice, I can obsess about stuff. I just didn't want to nitpick obsessively over any of those films in depth, because in the end everybody has a different film in their heads.
You too probably would have done stuff differently. In the end I'm just grumpy, that's all there is to it =) I... I even hated the f-f-f-frikkin'uniform.
Is it the best Batman movie ever made? Yes, it is - that's the closest they'll ever get anyway, methinks =/
(And I like Batman *and* coffee)
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