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[sunnystar]

My first two points were already mentioned, of course:
1) The creepy mullet pit-stain vendor man.
2) The random unknowns on the menu board.

But is anyone else really worried that something may be not right with the polish Beef bought? I mean, look at that vendor! :shudder:

[Lister]

The first rule of Great Outdoor Fight is "Do not question the smelly food vendor."

The second rule of Great Outdoor Fight is "Don't mess with a guy whose last name is a first name and whose first name is a city."

The third rule of Great Outdoor Fight is "The red zone is for loading and unloading only."

[robot_god]

Two bucks for whiskey?  What is this place, heaven?

Oh god, I bet it's Jim Beam.  I guess I couldn't handle the Fight after all.

[Mr. Gary]

Beef could be backstabbing Ray. The fact that Beef (at least immediately) doesn't tell Ray that he actually did feed Hot Dog Chef (best job title) gossip.

He could also be setting himself up as a liaison between Ray and the outside world. What the assembling fighters have basically seen and heard so far is that Ray ate a prominent fighter's face, is the only son of Rodney Leonard Stubbs, and just ran over a dude. He's only been seen communicating with Beef, and noone else. If Beef keeps himself between the other fighters and Ray as a sort of secretary early on, that only increases the mystery.

[Bobby Isosceles]

Beef could be backstabbing Ray. The fact that Beef (at least immediately) doesn't tell Ray that he actually did feed Hot Dog Chef (best job title) gossip.

He could also be setting himself up as a liaison between Ray and the outside world. What the assembling fighters have basically seen and heard so far is that Ray ate a prominent fighter's face, is the only son of Rodney Leonard Stubbs, and just ran over a dude. He's only been seen communicating with Beef, and noone else. If Beef keeps himself between the other fighters and Ray as a sort of secretary early on, that only increases the mystery.

Mystery that can only be intensified by mysterious night reports of Stubbs, Jr. somn-onanizing throughout the camp. As if to show the world that barbs , be they physical or the stinging comments of his peers, cannot hurt his flesh or pride.

[bonaparte]

Also, the fact that the hot dog dude calls to "Tower One."  The idea of the Acres having (presumably) more than one Tower watching over the GOF, along with the razorwire fence, is just making this seem so much more mad, like Attica prison riot meets Lord of the Flies meets a microcosm of the first 10,000 years of human history condensed into three days.

[jough]

The Great Outdoor Fight is Burning Man for the Burly Man.

[Golfhaus]

I'd go to Burning Man if it had ten-foot fences with barbed wire...

...and $2 whiskey.

That menu board reads like the best Fourth of July picnic ever.

[sensate]

I just realized something. Rodney Leonard Stubbs was a badass, THE badass. I'll bet he got a lot of action. And he was (?) a cat. It's hard to have only one son in a single litter, and he was probably leaving 'em all over town. Either Ray's got scores of half-sisters, or Rodney was just this side of sterile.

[CortJstr]

I just realized something. Rodney Leonard Stubbs was a badass, THE badass. I'll bet he got a lot of action. And he was (?) a cat. It's hard to have only one son in a single litter, and he was probably leaving 'em all over town. Either Ray's got scores of half-sisters, or Rodney was just this side of sterile.

Maybe his lack of booty explains how he was such a good fighter. He had a lot of time to work out and spar.

[Hobo Frenzy]

I just realized something. Rodney Leonard Stubbs was a badass, THE badass. I'll bet he got a lot of action. And he was (?) a cat. It's hard to have only one son in a single litter, and he was probably leaving 'em all over town. Either Ray's got scores of half-sisters, or Rodney was just this side of sterile.

No way man, Ray's dad was a saint. A saint I tells ya! He was an honorable man that loved his wife. I can't see him cheating on her like that.

Quotes from Achewood regarding Ramses Luther from Ms. Smuckles:
"He would take me to the bars out in the avenues...and stand up to some of the rudest characters you ever saw." presumable standing up for his wife.
"...he was much too much of a gentleman to ever fight in front of a lady."
"...he took me to Bakersfield on his motorcycle and he won the GOF."

I think that describes him as a man of character and strong values. He dosn't seem like the type to break a woman's heart if he loved her.

[filas]

I'm surprised nobody is reading this as a backstab-in-progress by Beef. Seems to me what you have here is a case of pumping Ray up to make him a huge target while insuring that he has his own alliances to fall back on when the fight gets rolling.

i have three, well four, ideas about the arc:

1.  Beef is using Ray as a Leader, but the backstab can't happen until the very end.  what does Beef know that all others don't?  that Ray is a big fake.  that's Beef's advantage (with Ray's dependence) so he's got to ride it for it's maximum value.  

2.  as Beef said, its rumored that the Leaders don't really fight on the second day, so maybe Ray does get taken out on the first day, advancing Beef to day three when Beef takes over the army.

3.  Ray, in character, wins the fight because of perverse luck.

four:  Onstad keeps his streak alive and suprises me like always while i giggle and drool.  I LOVE this arc

i cannot wait to find out their fight names.  Cassandra Roast Beef = Canadian Ribeye Ben;  Raymond Smuckles = Romper-Stomper

##### - jim beam is excellent for the price.  
emergen c - big shots have drivers, unless they are tormented loners, so it makes sense to ride sidecar in this case

[LCB]

This is like something you'd see in a Direct-to-video action movie with a decent budget, a hand-to-hand melee on a grand scale with jaded, wealthy thrill-seekers putting bets on who will win. But instead of say, some kickboxing ex-Special Forces type forced to fight on behalf of one of these thrill-seekers, we've got two guys determined to be the winners, to test their mettle and emerge victorious in this vicious contest, like Van Damme in Bloodsport.


Roast Beef Kanzakis and Ray Smuckles in

FATAL COMBAT II: AN APPROPRIATE SUBTITLE WITH A WORD LIKE FURY OR BLOOD IN IT

[CortJstr]

Roast Beef Kanzakis and Ray Smuckles in

FATAL COMBAT II: AN APPROPRIATE SUBTITLE WITH A WORD LIKE FURY OR BLOOD IN IT

I can see this working. But they'll need some kind of special move. Does anybody remember if either of them have ever shot fireballs or anything?

[sensate]

I just though of something else. When Beef responded "Oh necessarily" to Ray's request that he be his roadie, I at first thought he just wanted to be close to the action, to see his best friend's American Royalty in action. He looked so jazzed about the fact Ray was Stubbs' son. But now it feels a lot more like Beef at that point realized that there was no way he could talk Ray out of going. The necessity was to keep Ray from getting killed.

When this is all over, I hope Onstad puts up the 2006 Results Bulletin.