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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2006, 08:43:14 pm »

I don't think this is a moment of Beef feeling betrayed, but rather amazed and impressed.  The point of the flashback (other than the Dagwood sandwich of wonderful side details) was that this was Rodney's exact thinking on the subject of the feast.

And don't sports announcers just suck?  The incredibly old dude that does the radio for the University of Georgia football team is cool, and he's basically the only good one I've ever heard.
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2006, 10:08:22 pm »

Very interesting segue from the flashback back to present day.

Inconsequential artistic choice or exposure of previously latent symbolism?
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2006, 10:21:42 pm »

Very interesting segue from the flashback back to present day.

Inconsequential artistic choice or exposure of previously latent symbolism?

I agree both panels have an interesting similarity in that they're both somebody calling to someone else to come get their food, dammit. But I dunno if there's any real symbolism there.
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2006, 01:05:30 am »

Well, after lurking for some time, I'm finally brought to register by this:

I like the strip and all, but usn't this "the food is for the army" a complete retcon?  '

Let's go to the tapes. 

February 6: Roast Beef says "Two armies typically arise and their pawns are sent to the front.  It's rumored that the army leaders only fight on days one and three and traditionally feast on turkeys and brandy on day two."  Later in the same strip he gets to the "weakest lay waste to the weakest, and so on in kind."

The implication here is clearly that on Day 2 the army leaders sit around and feast while their army is off fighting on their behalf.

It also implies that, umm, Roast Beef doesn't clearly know what happens - it's only *rumored* that this is what happens.  It seems unlikely he'd know any more details

February 24: [that is, er, last Friday]: Roast Beef says "Now that you've kicked the ass of the only other army leader it looks like you're dining alone tomorrow."

The sense here is clearly the same - Ray will be sitting around by himself eating turkey on Day 2.

I have to say that this is a grave miscarriage of continuity!</ridiculous pedantry>

The names of previous fight champions are indeed awesome, though.  I'm a big fan of Lord Brannigan - do we think that he's an actual Lord, or that this is a nom de guerre?

I also feel that a) Ray's facial expression in Panel 5 shows clearly that his principal motive here is that he wants to eat the turkey; and b) Beef is clearly impressed that Ray has somehow stumbled onto his father's strategy.
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2006, 01:12:57 am »

Lighten up, Francis. The talking cats and the alive stuffed animals don't actually exist.

Also, welcome.
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2006, 01:55:06 am »

mann...
I just finished being in a play (it was a musical... Guys and Dolls) where I played Brannigan, the feisty irish policeman.

we had a giant cow as a prop. in the context of the play, it was supposed to be a fake cow. one of the characters is in a wierd 1950's dance group, and they have a fake cow as a prop.
the last night of the performance, the stage manager decided to get inside the cow, and make it move.

character: hey there, bessie *pats cow jokingly*
cow: *looks at him* MOOOOOOO

we all nearly pissed ourselves. it was amazing.
that, and:

proper line: oh no! brannigan!
line delivered: SHIT! It's brannigan!

I dont' know. we're highschoolers, and that was the night the principal was there, so... we thought it was pretty funny.
that, and when I forgot to say my line because I looked at a girl's... callypygian form, and then tried to cover it up.

I'm sorry, I'm still in that post-play time when I get all nostalgic at the drop of a hat.
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2006, 02:06:14 am »

Don't listen to AlohaDawg.  Next he'll be trying to convince us that there's no Santa Claus.  And that he doesn't bring tiny cans of Dr Pepper to all the good boys and girls.
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2006, 02:40:07 am »

Let me explain what's going on here.  Some have postulated that since the leader usually chooses to feed his Turkey and Brandy feast to his Army it is in fact an army sized feast.  It's not, it's enough to feed one.  The giving of the feast to the army is a ceremonial gesture.  The minions will still be fighting on day two while the leader rests.  The bigger plot point that no one has commented on is that up til now, Beef has played Ray like a bass fiddle.  But Ray's decision to take the feast is clearly not what Beef wants.  Essentially, Beef has lost control of Ray.  Also, Beef is shaken by the fact that Ray has instinctively chosen Fathers path.  In the previous strip Beef tried to calm Ray because he is more useful as a pawn in Beef's game.  Beef got Ray this far and now Ray's Blood has taken over.  Now anything can happen and Beef is feeling vulnerable.  This is excitement my dear TOUAMBies.  Excitement.

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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2006, 03:16:16 am »

Ray will show Roast Beef what he is really made of. just because he never learned spanish doesn't mean he isn't good at the fight. he has a basic understanding of Cat nature which is essential, and which roast beef can never hope to achieve.

knowing psychology doesn't make you a good parent (or, person.)
knowing physics doesn't make you a good golfer.
knowing the great outdoor fight doesn't make you a good fighter.
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2006, 04:15:01 am »

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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2006, 12:25:42 pm »

This only just occured to me and I know it's probably too late to matter but Rodney Leonard Stubbs avoided all allegiances.

So how do we work this in? Was he just awesome enough that he had kind of a fan base that he decided wasn't getting any turkey or what?
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Re: 1 March 2006 - Bob Raffles was bascially the worst announcer ever
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2006, 02:06:35 pm »

This only just occured to me and I know it's probably too late to matter but Rodney Leonard Stubbs avoided all allegiances.

So how do we work this in? Was he just awesome enough that he had kind of a fan base that he decided wasn't getting any turkey or what?

Maybe he was just saying this as one of the reasons he had no allegiances. If you have an army they expect the food even if you give it to them it still won't matter come day 3.
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