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[Mite]

God wanted all the early nerds who are responsible and get to their jobs on time to die! Bwahahahaha.

At least that's the message I got out of that email. Though I do like that nobody made you to forward that email to 15 friends or you'd go to hell. God's love sure ain't dependant on email.

I like Christianity alright, it's just some of the christians I have a problem with.

[pmcd9]

God wanted all the early nerds who are responsible and get to their jobs on time to die! Bwahahahaha.  At least that's the message I got out of that email.

That's exactly the message I took from it too.  Get to work on time and God will kill you.

Though I do like that nobody made you to forward that email to 15 friends or you'd go to hell. God's love sure ain't dependant on email.

No, but I did delete all of the clipart of buterflies, puppy dogs, and teddy bears that Jesus is so fond of.

I like Christianity alright, it's just some of the christians I have a problem with.

Actually, the sender of that message is a very sweet lady friend of mine.

~Paul

[AlohaDawg]

I get that stuff too. I tend to believe that the real message is the intention of the sender, not the (usually unbearably sweet) message itself. The evidence of God here is that someone loves Paul and wants to remind Paul of that by sending a really silly e-mail. That's the message you really need.

[AlohaDawg]

It's very early, so I can't do this justice, but I'll point you toward the wikipedia article for the Strong Anthropic Principle. It's untestable, and therefore, not science. Sure it might be unlikely for a universe like this to evolve. But one obviously did, so let's study it. If a universe suitable for life to evolve didn't exist, life wouldn't be there to study it. It seems like a tautology, but it's subtle. I'll be available for questions after I've had coffee.

Yes, I am a (former) cosmologist. High-energy astrophysicist, actually. Well, I worked on couple of big experiments when I was an undergrad, at least. Would you believe I watched an episode of Cosmos once?

Cosmos? Wasn't Carl Sagan a professor at Cornell?

[pmcd9]

Dawg are you familiar with a book entitled "Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel.  It's been recommended to me and I want to know what you think of it.  Lest you think i'm trying to sucker punch you i'll tell you that i've already formed a negative opinion based on three lengthy criticisms I've found.  Apparently it's a very popular book to draw such widespread and in depth analysis.  I get the impression it's the go to book used by Christians to try to convince skeptics.  Unfortunately for me, my search for God is leading me away from rather than towards him.

~Paul

U2 Eucharist

[AlohaDawg]

Lee Strobel has written three interesting and thought provoking books. He was the legal affairs editor for the Chicago Tribune and they read fairly easily and quickly:

The Case for a Creator
The Case for Christ
The Case for Faith

Basically he interviews experts (scientists in the first, theologians in the second) and presents the arguments of skeptics. I can't say they are quite 'objective' but they do give you a lot of really interesting things to think about in the context of the questions surrounding these issues.

Read 'em and liked them. It would be wrong not to point out to you that Lee Strobel is a conservative Christian writer now, although before his acceptance of Christianity he was an avowed and very cynical atheist. He decided to research Christianity to talk her out of it because he thought she was nuts; he wound up talking to so many intellectually and spititually sound thelogians and believers that he wound up becoming a Christian himself. He was a legal affairs writer so he wrote the 'cases' out of his research.

[colmore]

man, when did it turn into daylight SAVING time...

hi-OH!