I feel like this conversation is going on in two separate threads?
Don't worry about that, we're merely approaching the event horizon of a Bullshit Crescendo.
When enough momentum builds from enough awesome people collectively riffing on the same topic, the conversation begins to mutate wildly and start crosslinking with other ideas and the entire entity becomes almost An Alive Thing...
Linear logic is discarded, intuitive leaps are made with ease and Cause-and-Effect... is not exactly violated, persay, though Cause-and-Effect begins to function exotically and functionally fourth-dimensionally.
It is sort of a cross between a hive mind and a rolling snowball.
A better analogy: you know how when, in Back to the Future, just before the car does an actual time jump, all sorts of sparks and explosions start wildly popping around the edges and it looks really cool?
That is where we are. We're at the edge of a Bullshit Crescendo and it is just achingly beautiful. We can witness Imaginary Idea Pairs dancing at the edge, mostly hell of annihilating each other but occasionally one breaking away into free space and becoming Real.
Ideation Aurora Borealis full-on charging ions and creating eerie fireworks in the sky.
Critical Bullshit Mass has been achieved, party person.
Awesome things are now functioning of their own accord.
The firebird Inspirado is rising from her ashes, resurrected by the electricity created by the cycling through of Crazy Ideas Spoken Anyway.
Do not fear The Bullshit Crescendo. She destroys only because that's what happens before creation.
Let her six blue arms take you into their embrace.
Nuzzle up to the bosom of cleansing madness.
It is the rudest bosom of all.