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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2007, 08:13:27 pm »
one of my friends here had a dream once that his dad, who is a Lawyer, got in a really serious car accident.
he goes to the hospital, and he says "Zach, there's something I've never told you. And I'm going to tell you now, because it's important. I draw and write Garfield. Jim Davis died in the mid-90's, and I've been creating the Garfield strip every day, ever since. And now, I need you to do it." He couldn't bear to tell his dad how much he hates Garfield, how much everyone hates Garfield... so he had to try to do it.
Then he woke up.

He also dreamt once that the Notorious B.I.G. came back to life, and that he had to protect him from the gang members trying to kill him.
At the end of that dream, Biggie got shot in slow motion. And exploded into rainbows.

Also: I can't get the audio on that site to load, but... based on the comments on the blog, fuck that guy. And fuck the "Brandon" guy, who had a long argument that went like this.
"No, seriously, can anyone explain to me why it's funny?"
"Because it's absurd, and surrealist, and (gives examples)"
"no, see, that isn't absurd. Absurd would be...
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A tangential absurdity would have been an end line of “Philippe is made of macaroni.” Situational absurdity would be “Philippe folded it into a schooner and is sailing to Mexico.” Even a simple absurdity would be him saying “Philippe is standing on it” and show Philippe NOT standing on it.
So, see, why is it funny?"

Why does it make people mad when other people like something that they don't?
PS this doesn't count for things that I like or don't like. only what I like is good. I reserve the right, as a human being, to continue believing this.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2007, 08:22:40 pm »
Quote from: theinevitable on March 20, 2007, 08:13:27 pm
Why does it make people mad when other people like something that they don't?

Jealousy.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2007, 08:42:16 pm »
People like Kurtz are threatened by successful entertainment product that does not fall into their tightly-constrained models of What The Rubes Will Ingest. This is what happens to people who view comedy as an equation and view entertainment strictly as a way of making money and getting famous.

I've been a Hollywood cog for a while now. I can say these things with some authority.

Kurtzes are threatened by creativity, fearing that they will be overtaken by these less formulaic products, fearing that someone has discovered a more successful formula that they don't understand, fearing that their formula will go out of style because of it.

But there's more to it than that.

Kurtzes also wish deep deep deep down that they COULD be actual artists or... actual entertainers and... have credibility. They CRAVE a way wherein they could be "edgy" and also still never deviate from their formula that pays the bills... but they wanna pay the bills more.

So they HATE it when there are motherfuckers running around getting credit for being edgy AND paying the bills. They operate as though you get one or the other but... holy shit, when someone does both, it drives them up the goddamn wall.

Scott Kurtz would be a very average mid-level executive at a movie studio.

This is my way of saying that he is a crap dude.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2007, 08:46:05 pm »
I wish there was a transcript of this thing. There are enough gems of stupidity throughout that debate to be quoted for weeks. But I can't be bothered to type it down.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2007, 09:26:10 pm »
good lord. I don't understand what these people are even talking about.
I mean... I don't "work hard" to understand achewood. I just read it, and laugh, and then go on to the next strip. Even the guy who likes it says you have to put a lot of effort into it. Which just... I don't really understand what he's even saying. these are not english words that he is using.

PS:
one guy: "I mean, the art certainly isn't anything to write home about."
kurtz, who draws fuck*ng PVP: "well, I mean... I don't want to give him a hard time about that, like..."
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2007, 09:32:59 pm »
Some people need to learn how to just say "No thanks, I don't care for it" and move on.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2007, 10:47:31 pm »
Yeah.  If only every webcomic could be just like PvP, Penny Arcade, ad nauseum.

I JUST CANNOT GET ENOUGH OF JOKES ABOUT VIDEOGAMES AND RPGS.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2007, 10:54:22 pm »
Penny Arcade doesn't deserve to be compared to PVP.

Awhile ago, in a thread, I said that Penny Arcade fell off but I take that back now, it's been pretty good and the next gen consoles made it relevant again.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2007, 10:55:53 pm »
Who is scott kurtz and what does he have to do with achewood?
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2007, 11:06:11 pm »
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Who is scott kurtz and what does he have to do with achewood?

Scott Kurtz is the author/illustrator of PVP, one of the most successful webcomics being produced today. He made some nasty comments about Achewood on a podcast for Digital Strips, a blog/podcast/review of webcomics. See the first post in this thread for more information.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2007, 11:12:18 pm »
no, the other guys started talking about how they don't like the art, and he was all "oh, no, come on guys, lets not..."

also, he keeps saying that Achewood breaks the "rules" of comics. He didn't really give any examples of this.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2007, 11:21:33 pm »
Right, so I enjoyed hearing about Achewood from another perspective, and while their arguments were a little flawed in places the reasons these people gave for disliking Achewood seemed perfectly.. well, reasonable, mostly.

But is there anything more irritating, condescending and pathetic in the world than trying to win an argument by saying that the only reason people who don't share your opinion like something is because they think it makes them cool? Seriously, it reeks of something unpleasant. Scott Kurtz and co., an industrial strength fuck you. May your condoms split and your eczema get raunchy.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2007, 11:21:44 pm »
These guys are boring the hell out of me. I am pretty ignorant to the whole webcomic universe and if its filled with people like this then I'm going to remain ignorant of it all. I didn't know there were people out there who thought so hard about comics or who formulated such negative opinions of achewood. Basically they don't get it. At all.
Fuck this guy.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2007, 11:32:43 pm »
I don't get the art bitch. I like too many comics that don't make any attempt at really solid art. I mean, some of them I could put together, because they are templates or clip art or whatever. GYWO is consistently very funny, and what the hell is it? Fuck, we aren't talking about Little Nemo here.
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Re: Scott Kurtz is a dick.
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2007, 11:40:52 pm »
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I don't get the art bitch.

Yeah, me neither. I mean, Achewood's art is typically simplistic, but it's distinctive, and it has serious moments of brilliance. But it's not like it's substandard.
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