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[Charles Nelson Mandela]

Ha - I feel like I've just been carded in a bar... Youth is not an excuse I can plausibly use, here.

Heh ... I suppose it's not a function of youth anyway. After all, practically everyone has at least a working knowledge of the Three Stooges whether they're 15 or 75, and last I checked they're not putting out much new material lately either. It is just a Sad Thing that Andy Kaufman's star is dimming in the world of pop culture.

Andy Kaufman is one of the people Who Died Young that I actually believe in my heart would have continued putting out truly brilliant material for decades. Cobain's sound would have gotten old fast (as it did for everyone else that copied him and the rest of Nirvana in the first place). Lennon would have ended up putting out sappy McCartney crap as he got older and mellower (and, worse, somehow managing to keep Yoko in the mix the entire time). Bill Hicks, I'm sure, would still be putting out kick-ass comedy albums, but that's all he'd be doing. But Kaufman ... he'd always be up to something new and crazy and super-intelligent. Or be Senator Kaufman.

(One of the only times I ever got carded in my life was on my 21st birthday. As a dude of intimidation (height x mass = grrr in the eyes of many), I was always assumed to be older. So when I finally became all Legal, I said "screw it" and left my driver's license at the dorm. But when we got to the bar, half the NYPD was in the park across the street conducting a massive drug sweep, so they were carding everyone hardcore if they appeared to be under 80. I wouldn't have cared so much except the dorm was a good ten blocks away from the bar, and I couldn't rationalize a cab for a "mere" ten blocks, so ... bah. BAH.)

[theinevitable]

Cobain's sound would have gotten old fast

you take that back right now

a-so: I know of Kaufman because I caught a special on him when I was home alone in like 6th or 7th grade. I remember enthusiastically telling my mom about my new favorite comedian, and both of my parents declaring that they hate him. because he's an asshole.

sometimes I just don't get them at all.

[jaydub]

I remember enthusiastically telling my mom about my new favorite comedian, and both of my parents declaring that they hate him. because he's an asshole.

They probably tried to heckle him back in the day and got pwned

Also, seconded on Cobain - but there's no way he'd still be alive even if he hadn't died that day in (1993?).  There was only one way that story was going to end.

[robot_god]

My parents went to Kaufman's show at Carnegie Hall where afterword he took the entire audience to get cookies and milk.  Whenever Kaufman comes up for any reason, my dad is hella proud to talk about that show.

You party people should at least see Man on the Moon.  If not for Andy, at least because it was Jim Carey's only challenging role.

[AugustWest]

If not for Andy, at least because it was Jim Carey's only challenging role.

Yep, and he pulled it off very well (I thought).  Just goes to show what the guy is capable of.

[isunklower]

If not for Andy, at least because it was Jim Carey's only challenging role.

HOW DARE YOU

what of The Mask

WHAT OF IT



(Seriously, though, doing all those early, wretched comedies he did was probably very challenging.  Who among us could sincerely deliver the line, "Ssssssmokin'!!!" without wanting to light one's self on fire?  That takes chops, man.)

[V-Adore]

I've had "Man on the Moon" in my head the entire time reading this thread. Thank you, board.

[coldfrog]

Not in that highest tier with John Lennon, Kurt Vonnegut, Axl Rose and Philip K Dick...

Lennon, vonnegut, Philip K, OK, I'm good, I'm on the level here, all worthy as respectable and worthy people to model a life after (in general).  I fail to understand how being kind of annoying sounding and doing mostly so-so songs fits in with these others.  I mean, OK, he did write some good songs, but (and I confess to not know much about him) what has he done to put him in this top level?

[linnea]

Lennon, vonnegut, Philip K, OK, I'm good, I'm on the level here, all worthy as respectable and worthy people to model a life after (in general).  I fail to understand how being kind of annoying sounding and doing mostly so-so songs fits in with these others.  I mean, OK, he did write some good songs, but (and I confess to not know much about him) what has he done to put him in this top level?

I fuck*ng hate Axl Rose. This is coming from a kid who had all the GnR albums in middle school.

[littlefallsmets]

Axl Rose was an emotionally-damaged hick who blew into L.A. and... basically on the strength of his own supreme arrogance and madness... became a tornado of misdirected rage with a hundred million dollars to spare. Dolphins? Why not dolphins. Puffy shirts? Why NOT puffy shirts, indeed.

What was the Hunter S Thompson quote about "too weird to die?"

Becoming the Howard Hughes of rock n' roll is a weird thing but... it's something to aspire to.

[robot_god]

Lennon, vonnegut, Philip K, OK, I'm good, I'm on the level here, all worthy as respectable and worthy people to model a life after (in general).  I fail to understand how being kind of annoying sounding and doing mostly so-so songs fits in with these others.  I mean, OK, he did write some good songs, but (and I confess to not know much about him) what has he done to put him in this top level?

Many months ago LFM wrote a post that completely changed my opinion of Axl Rose.  You can probably find it if you search the boards for the word "ridiculous."

[chuanoplast]

Is it this post?

[AugustWest]

Who is this "Axl Rose" of which you speak?

[chuanoplast]

He must be a wagon wheel hubcap carver from Oregon Trail 3.

[coldfrog]

He must be a wagon wheel hubcap carver from Oregon Trail 3.

Canned for completing the link from andy kaufman to Oregon Trail.
Hiram the Bartender offers you a drink.  Do you accept?