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[wombat]

Also your country has a hell of a lot of faith in the infinite wisdom of a bunch of dudes who died over a century or two ago.

Yeah well I guess it's a way to put an end to arguments that would otherwise go on forever, you know? I mean, rock-paper-scissors would be so undignified.

[smick]

Yeah well I guess it's a way to put an end to arguments that would otherwise go on forever, you know? I mean, rock-paper-scissors would be so undignified.

So, if you can Hitler an argument, does this mean you can Jefferson an argument?

"ugh... You know, once upon a time there was a man like you, and he drafted a document of his ideas. His name was Thomas Jefferson."
"Oh... wow... you know... maybe we're both right."

And then they hug, and buy each other novelty ice creams.

[AugustWest]

So, if you can Hitler an argument, does this mean you can Jefferson an argument?

"ugh... You know, once upon a time there was a man like you, and he drafted a document of his ideas. His name was Thomas Jefferson."
"Oh... wow... you know... maybe we're both right."

And then they hug, and buy each other novelty ice creams.

James Madison was the primary drafter of the Constitution.

[smick]

James Madison was the primary drafter of the Constitution.

Nazi.

*** EDIT ***

Jefferson views on Sodomy

In 1779, Jefferson prepared a draft of Virginia’s criminal statute, envisaging that the punishment for sodomy should be castration. [39]

The bill read: “Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.”

What the hell, Tom?  What's up with the nose thing?

[theinevitable]

WTF!
Why does TJ want to cut off my dick?

[jaydub]

Wear your dress when his ghost come clanking around with the chef's knife.  That'll confuse him.

[CortJstr]

Because 230 odd years ago there was different social mores and even on seemingly similiar issues there was differing points of stress, importance and hierarchy. Public, private and criminal behaviour were more strictly codified and those who were not in conformity were more harshly condemned for being wrong.

Y'all don't need to worry about TJ, you need to sweat that there's at least a jillion un-socially-evolved motherfuckers who would straight up do you that way for those same acts today if they could.

Geez, wonder whys there's dissension in the world?

I know mores are different and whatnot, but how could any man hate blowjobs that much? It boggles the mind.

[Doc]

Hnag on, I always thought sodomy was anal, not oral. I am recieving a dose of embarassingly public education?

[theinevitable]

a lot of people have had different definitions of Sodomy. Some folks argued that anything other than missionary-position sex with the man on top was sodomy, back in the day.

[linnea]

Hnag on, I always thought sodomy was anal, not oral. I am recieving a dose of embarassingly public education?

Yeah, the definition of sodomy has varied. Traditionally though it's a synonym for buggery.

[Lister]

Y'all don't need to worry about TJ, you need to sweat that there's at least a jillion un-socially-evolved motherfuckers who would straight up do you that way for those same acts today if they could.

And yet... there are also people who would do that crime, take that punishment, and then post pictures of it on the internet for other people to fornicate to.

And they all want to be your MySpace friend.

[smick]

WTF!
Why does TJ want to cut off my dick?

I think inev just confessed to being a polygamist.

[Doc]

there are also people who would do that crime, take that punishment, and then post pictures of it on the internet for other people to fornicate to.

It would be fantastic to go back and explain suicide girls to the founding fathers, they'd just tear up their constitution there and then.

[CortJstr]

Merriam-Webster says it's anal, oral, or bestiality. Gender doesn't matter. I'd always known the first two but the animals part is new to me.

[Doc]

You've got to hand it to those sodomites, those fuckers knew how to party.