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Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« on: September 08, 2007, 04:53:14 pm »

I'm doing research on Frieda Miller for my MA thesis (holy crap there is no wiki entry for her at all, I am going to have to fix that) and I have a cryptic telegram that no historian has been able to decipher.  You guys are brilliant; can you help? 

The background:

Frieda S. Miller was, among other things, the second director of the Women's Bureau in the Department of Labor from 1944 until 1953, when she was forced to resign under the Eisenhower administration.  She was also the mother of an adopted daughter, Elisabeth, and shared a townhome in New York with labor activist and socialist Pauline Newman.  It is clear from their correspondence (which I have seen with my own eyes) that they were a couple -- they raised Elisabeth together and lived together for more than thirty years, ending with Miller's death in the 1970s.  (There are Mother's Day cards from Elisabeth's two sons addressed with love to "Granny and Pauline.")  They were probably the cutest pair of historical lesbians I have ever encountered in my research -- their letters are absolutely fascinating, affectionate, and witty.  (If anyone is interested I can post the letter Pauline wrote to Frieda the day that Sacco and Vanzetti were executed.  It very nearly brought me to tears.)  At any rate, their relationship was clearly a romantic one and they were absolutely devoted to one another. 

Here's the part I need help with.  In a folder in Frieda Miller's private papers, I found a telegram that had been mentioned in another researcher's book and found it to be completely baffling.  (The other researcher quoted it, but also could not explain its meaning.)  The folder was marked "Leaving W.B. -- 1953" and contained dozens of letters decrying Miller's forced resignation (again, the details on this are unclear but apparently Ike wanted to bring in a Republican; the position had traditionally been non-partisan but perhaps he discovered Miller's relationship status?).  Among them was the message as follows:

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Dec 8 12:50 PM 1953 from Brooklyn NY:

“MISS FREDA S MILLER CHIEF WOMENS BUREAU

U S DEPT OF LABOR
8 LONELY LOURIAS CHANT COME BACK HOME ALL IS FORGIVEN

UNSIGNED”

Any guesses?  What the hell is a louria?  (Pauline's first language was not English and she was prone to spelling errors...perhaps this was one?)  This sounds like a literary reference, but a google search turns up nothing.  Does this ring a bell for any of you literary types?  I am fairly certain that this came from Pauline, but what on earth could it mean? 

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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2007, 09:03:59 pm »

A pet name or shared joke between two longtime companions?  Or a mash note from a deranged stalker?

That's about as far as my intuition takes me.
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2007, 09:17:19 pm »

Yikes.  14 views, one reply.  I was hoping somebody knew of an obscure Czech opera called "Eight Lonely Lourias" or something.  I mean, seriously -- I figured y'all's collective literacy had pretty much every base covered. 

Is it that obscure, or just that uninteresting? 

Clearly there's not enough cock in this thread. 

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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2007, 09:52:58 pm »

I have seen the term "ALL IS FORGIVEN COME BACK HOME" used in post WWII telegrams alerting those who had fled their home counties pre-war that they had been granted amnesty and could return home without persecution.  I seem to recall this was the specific terminology used in declarations of amnesty at the time.  I can't remember exactly where, but it was in my research back when I was working as a journalist interviewing war vets.  I'm pretty sure this would have even been the language used in newspaper headlines at the time - it was common language.  Undoubtedly the person who wrote this, in 1953 would be aware of this allusion.  The illiteration of "lonely" and "lourias" definitely points to a quote from poetry... It's likely the sort of personal poetry that may never have been read by anyone but Freda and the sender.  Certainly she was going through her own personal war at the time this was sent, and likely it points to someone wishing to assure her that she was still welcome "home" in spite of everything.
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 10:02:17 pm »

Yeah, that's about all I can make of it. "Lourias" is a total mystery to me.
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 10:22:32 pm »

smells --

I didn't know about the declarations of amnesty language -- that's an interesting perspective, and given that both women were children of European immigrants I imagine the phrase had special significance.  I will look further into this. 

I googled "lonely lourias" but didn't think to look at "all is forgiven come back home."  Neat. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2007, 10:32:18 pm »

I saw something about lourias meaning "low walls" in some dialect... but that doesn't seem logical here.
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2007, 12:21:13 am »

How many siblings did she have? Maybe she had been "disowned" earlier due to her preferences or something.
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2007, 01:08:11 am »

That is really fascinating, but I got nothin'. I have never heard a word remotely like "louria". I have this mental image of eight caryatids chanting "all is forgiven." Is there a mythological reference to one of the, say, Greek odysseys? Like...did Odysseus receive a vision of eight women telling him he could return? What's the significance of eight _____s chanting something?
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 01:21:53 am »

I am likewise intrigued but unable to help. Googling turned up nothing you wouldn't have seen, but both Louria (could have been plural) and Lourias seem to be family names, have you looked into their family trees?
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 01:26:51 am »

(If anyone is interested I can post the letter Pauline wrote to Frieda the day that Sacco and Vanzetti were executed.  It very nearly brought me to tears.)  At any rate, their relationship was clearly a romantic one and they were absolutely devoted to one another. 

Wow, I'd love to read that. Also, I had never heard about Sacco and Vanzetti before. Apparently they were executed over allegedly killing someone and heisting over $15,000... in today's money, that would be over half a million dollars. The anti-Italian stuff back in those days was also pretty crazy.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2007, 03:31:35 am »

Here's the Sacco and Vanzetti letter.  Like most of Pauline's letters to Friday, it was typewritten on onion-skin paper, and I left the spelling and grammar intact to show the change in her emotional state as she wrote. 

I think it speaks for itself. 

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A-37 Box 1, Folder 8 “Pauline Newman, 1927 – 1961”

New York City

Tuesday August 23rd, 1927. 

Dear Girl:

It is raining--and to-day it should.  Sacco and Venzetti have been officially murdered, and there is no place for sunshine to-day.  If there is such a force which manipulates these things, then it is well that the sun is hidden from our eyes to-day.  The rain, and the slight wind, the clouded and sumber sky is more to my liking to-day.  It somehow fits in with an aching heart and a very weary mind!  But to tell you all I went through since I left you, I must begin with my boarding the train.  As you know there is no newspaper to be gotten on the Bethel local.  But when we changed for South Norwalk, I tried to get one at the station only to find that the stand close.  On entering the train, however, I saw a man sleeping and a newspaper beside him.  In my desire to know what the latest news was, I picked up the paper, and there I saw that there is no hope left.  Every one, even Brandies gave his “reason” for not interfering, and there was no longer any hope any where.  And then I saw a letter Sacco had written to his son Dante, and began to read it but could no longer control myself and wept all the way into the City.  The horror of the whole thing just got hold of me and there was nothing left but a terrible helplessness and a feeling of utter hopelessness such as I have never felt before entered my soul.  For the longest while I could not make up my mind whether I am to go home or not, and suddenly remembered that there was to be a meeting at the Community Church.  Bought another paper and saw that the meeting was turned into a “Death Watch” meeting, so went into the League, got me a cup of coffee and with Agnes went to the meeting.  The church was packed, tho we found seats.  Men and women whom I have not seen since the days of my activity were there, and the chairman of the S. Party came over and asked me whether, if the meeting should continue until after midnight, I would speak, and I said “yes.”   For I was sufficiently stirred to speak, though I was not at all sure that I would be able to control my emotion and -- tears. 

But the delegation came back from Boston about ten o’clock and when we saw their faces, we knew that there was no hope left.  And then Mr. Lovett spoke, and except Thomas, his was the most wonderful speech I have heard!  He called Lowell of Harward first a lier and then murderer and the house was cheering for fully five minutes -- never shall I forget that moment.  And when the cheering and the tumult had ceased, he said, “I repeat, that if Pres. Lowell does not, before midnight, recant, he is everything I said he was!”  Will tell you more of his speech when I see you -- you should be proud of him -- I was. 

And then Thomas came forward -- asking not to interupt him with applaus, and Fried, I have listened to speeches for more than twenty-five years and heard some eloquent speakers, but never did I hear anything better eithet from the point of view of orator of material or feeling!  He was magnificient, and marvelous! 

Other speakers filled in.  Judge Panken told of his interview with Fuller, of the other editors and the plea of Edna St. Vincent M. all them on their knees before this one man who still had the power to show mercy -- if not justice, and then the announcement that the Governor is in conference with Mrs. Sacco and Miss Vanzeti, that and no more.  More waiting until at last the announcement that there would be no reprieve.  A grown from all of us, sobing, tears, men, big men weeping and standing silently with heads down while Thomas once more offered a prayer -- if you can call it that, but it was the saddest meeting I have ever lived through.  There was no need for words then -- we wept not so much for Sacco and Vanzetti as for America and for justice!  And then we walked to Fifth Ave and down to Union Sq. where a squad of police broke up a meeting for the communists.  We went into Childs -- an old group of men and women I knew when hope was in my heart that a better, mor just day is ahead of us -- and sat talking until the first edition of the morning paper came out -- 3 a.m.  It was four when I went home and brought Miss Dahme with me.  She lives way out in Yonkers ans there was no train until eight in the morning so she stayed with me and there was no sleep in us any way. 

I assure you that it is an effort for me to even think of anything else.  And yet, life goes on as before.  I got out and went to see afew people only to find that there was nothing doing in the shops.  No work and consequently to business for me.  I am terribly discouraged.  But will try to go out tomorrow again. 

…

I am sorry you were not with me last evening. I wanted, tho it be only sorrow -- to share it with you.  I am terribly up-set, and the nervous strain is hard to bear.  And yet, their families -- Mrs. Sacco, her two children -- and those who have been nearer to them than we are.  And the terrible horrible moments for the two men!  I suppose it is the mercy of nature that we cannot -- try as we may -- visualize the pain of those men!  Vanzetti’s last words were “I am an inocent man, inocent of all crimes”!  Sacco’s “Long live Anarchy!  Good by my wife and children, good by mother -- and that is that!

And as I said last night: “their agony is over, But, the shame, the grief, the suffering of a great wrong, the disgrace of our laws and courts -- are ours to endure!” 

It is still raining, and the heart is heavy while the spirit wanders toward you -- where it might find some peace! 

Pauline
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2007, 03:33:54 am »

How many siblings did she have? Maybe she had been "disowned" earlier due to her preferences or something.

She had one sister, but as far as I know they were not close as adults.  They had been raised by their grandparents as Miller's parents died when the girls were young.  I believe the sister was probably still in Wisconsin, but the telegraph was sent from Brooklyn. 

Interesting theory, though. 
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Re: Help me decipher a cryptic telegram.
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2007, 06:08:16 am »

Wow, I'd love to read that. Also, I had never heard about Sacco and Vanzetti before. Apparently they were executed over allegedly killing someone and heisting over $15,000... in today's money, that would be over half a million dollars. The anti-Italian stuff back in those days was also pretty crazy.

That's such a trip. It's so interesting to me to find out what people have been exposed to and what they haven't. You know about so much shit that I don't - I would never have thought you didn't know about S&V.

Also, this is a perfect opportunity for me to post a joke that I wanted to post a few days ago, but held off because it's outmoded, shall we say?


So this elderly woman is sitting around the house one day and the doorbell rings. She goes to the door and it's a Western Union guy. The kid tells the old lady he's got a telegram for her. She asks him if he does singing telegrams, because she's never had one and has always anted one. Kid says that he doesn't do singing telegrams, he just drops them off but the lady begs and begs, and the kid relents. He opens the telegram up, clears his throat, and belts out "Yoooouuuuur sister Edna's dead!"

I originally heard it as Rose, but in deference to you I changed it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2007, 06:24:38 am »

Woody Guthrie's best album is all about Sacco and Vanzetti.  Without that I never would have known.


Without Bob Dylan I would never had known anything.
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