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DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« on: September 19, 2007, 02:45:22 am »

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE&mode=related&search=

Kerry looks on as student is tazed by police at UF. The student asks Kerry why he conceded the election so early, and is quickly jumped and taken to the ground by police, yells "I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? DONT TASER ME, BRO, OWWWW AHHHH" meanwhile Kerry tells everyone to calm down and then answers his question. The andrew meyer was then taken to county jail.
So yea, this country scares the  crap out of me.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 02:53:23 am »

what scares the crap out of me, truly, is...
last year, when a kid got tasered in a similar circumstance, and then was tasered again and again for not standing up... AFTER BEING TASERED, my roommate watched, laughed, and said "what an asshole, he deserved it."

This guy... he is a good guy. I loved that kid. But... WHAT. THE. FUCK.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 03:15:52 am »

Both of you are sooo right.


Also, inev, I don't know what you mean with your signature but Bob Dylan is right,  He knows more about you then you could ever hope to know about him.  Can't you see the picture he is drawing for you.

Seriously though, I agree completely with Dylan there.  Also, I found the part about pictures awesome because he wrote many a great song by taking speed, chain smoking marijuana and looking at collages.  You can really see this in Bob Dylan's 115th dream.  Also because words are what got him where he was and he was saying truth was a picture.  Anyhow, I have that film but haven't watched it in five years, thanks for bringing it up--probably watch it tonight.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 03:34:10 am »

This kind of shit pisses me off to no end. It seems every time I turn around there's some innocent civilian getting shot in the face with a goddamn M16 because an overweight SWAT team broke into the wrong house to serve a marijuana arrest. I'm all for law and order, but stop giving overweight fuck*ng hillbillies weapons and an excuse.

Maybe if all they were allowed to carry was billy clubs, at least they'd have to get up close and personal, and then strike repeatedly, thus ensuring they at least know that the person they're harming is a middle-aged father of three, and not a 250-pound drug dealer.

Also, no more high&tights on police officers. Where do you think you are, the 1s Marine Division? Grow a moustache instead, at least it's traditional.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 03:47:27 am »

what is this "high&tight"? basically a buzzed head?
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2007, 03:57:19 am »

In Jarhead, pretty much everybody has one.




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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2007, 05:36:49 am »

Did I miss something?  Was he arrested for asking a question at a question and answer session?
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2007, 07:34:20 am »

At a friends house today they said he asked a question after question time had ended??
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2007, 12:42:14 pm »

When I read about this I thought it was just an over-reaction, something bad but nothing this crazy. The fact that they used the taser as a threat is the worst part for me, it's just nuts: there was four of them, they would have been able to hold him down and cuff him without resorting to that sort of violence.
Another vid with a bit better quality.

At the end of the day though I guess its just a couple of rent a cops who are on too much of a power trip and too simple minded to concieve that violence should not be your first resort when dealing with people.
Or another moral is: Do Not Question The System. We're the land of the free, got that? Questioning it sounds damn anti-american to me.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2007, 12:45:48 pm »

On the CBS radio news the version they're telling is that he kept yelling about his question, wouldn't stop talking when asked, wouldn't leave, and was warned before he was tazed. Of course they don't play any actual audio of the event or anything.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2007, 12:49:02 pm »

See this is technically true, and I can fully the support them removing him, the dude was being an annoying douche and it's well within their right to remove him. But uh... tasering him on the ground is a bit of  different matter.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2007, 03:23:34 pm »

Apparently instead of asking a question and sitting down, he asked a question and then continued making statements, then once his mic was cut began yelling, then when he was asked to sit down continued yelling, then when he was told to leave ran away from security and continued yelling.

Do I think he should have been tazed?  No.  Do I think he was a giant douche?  Yes.  Is he a martyr?  No.  Not in any way.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2007, 04:33:05 pm »

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ASSHOLES TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN THIS COUNTRY, GODDAMNIT!
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2007, 05:04:02 pm »

You have a right to be an asshole in your own forum, when the audience is there to see you being an asshole.

You have a right to be an asshole in your house.

Outside of that, if you interrupt a public forum, fail to comply with an order of law enforcement, violate the speech rights of someone by interrupting, taking the mike, or causing disturbance you are outside the law.

I find it interesting that the mode of protest now seems to have shifted significantly - whether out of laziness, frustration, or fragmentation I'm not sure. It seems to me that now, an awful lot of asshattery and/or criminal behavior (the riots around the economic summits and destruction of McDonalds franchises come to mind) has come to be more the norm versus demonstration, grassroots political organization, civil disobedience and the like.

The problem is, for those who aren't committed to a side, it doesn't really draw people to your side, and the people it does draw could be assholes too.

Although it's not a right/left problem, it appears that this happens more on the left than the right, though.
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Re: DON'T TASER ME, BRO!
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2007, 05:28:59 pm »

Four guys carrying the dude out against his will? Reasonable.

Tasering? Not... not so much.

But I do kind of understand the desperation factor in protests, lately, in just being a criminal asshat because... I mean... the entire idea of late 60s/early 70s protests have been pretty strictly co-opted. Started before they're started.

Everyone knows what's going to happen instantly now, we're at a point where the tightly constructed counter-protest shows up hours before the actual protest. The Fox News trucks are on the scene already practicing their dimissive reporting before the signs are even painted.

You get your permit by agreeing to be fenced into a little jail a mile away from whatever you're protesting or else the police are there to break it up before it gets a chance to start.

No momentum whatsoever. The people who DO organize mass protests, numbers no one can ignore, are so obsessed with coming off as squeaky-clean that no real sense of urgency or power or threat to power can actually be mobilized... so that they can protect THEIR political careers and the reputations of whatever "Names" they get to attend.

Everything is vetted, now, if you want the people who can get you people and coverage to show up.

Not to mention that we're living in an age where 83% of mass rallies are cynically and tightly-constructed parodies of mass rallies... grassroots is just a buzz word, now, an illusion, now, a joke now. No one would believe a huge event was actually grassroots even if it actually was.

Any hint of an opposition or counter-culture is quickly infiltrated by people trying to make a buck off it or... use it as a vehicle toward their ultimately much more moderate goals or... is overrun with people just wanting to do walking art installations or break some windows.

The idea of collective effort was made a farce by popular culture... and I think on purpose. Honestly espousing the idea that you can make large changes to the American system without giving up most of your ideals to get INTO the system is treated with all the dignity of a guy saying he saw a UFO.

At best, a pity... mostly a laughing condescension... occasionally a more vicious direct question of sanity.

Not to mention that the more teevee stations there are, the more internet news sites, radio stations, newspapers there are... the more we are innoculated with the idea that NOTHING is true. NOTHING is believable. EVERYTHING is a lie or a scam or, at least, potentially so.

Solid-thinking men and women are paralyzed by the realization that there's a good chance that what they strongly believe in probably isn't true or, at least, the whole thing's so mindbendingly complex that maybe they should just go about their own lives.

But more than that?

More than any of that?

To have a legitimate protest culture, you need a large and functioning middle class... a large base of people both educated enough to want to change things in a positive manner but comfortable enough financially to take time off their lives to do it.

Car loans. No health care. Student loans. Endless troubles, a suffocation of obligations.

Most of the people who could be effectiving change strongly and reasonably are too busy keeping head above water to even UNDERSTAND what they could do, let alone CONSIDER doing it.

So you're left with odd collections of con artists, street performers and strict crazies.

This kid was a bit unhinged, it sounds like, so of course he's not going to act sanely.

That's the point.

The sane-but-informed are so locked up by doubt and obligation that they CAN'T make any moves.

The momentum of our culture demands it, basically.
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