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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2007, 08:40:16 am »
Quote from: theinevitable on November 14, 2007, 04:09:45 am
man, I feel like it is more a thing where... people everywhere are jerks in their own unique ways.
This is basically true but most other countries don't demand the rest of the world subscribe to their worldview or face the threat of military force.
Also, easy target.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2007, 02:39:17 pm »
Yeah, it's more than that.  I mean I tell him I talk to nice Americans on a messageboard all the time and I point out that many of the bands and artists he enjoys are from the US of A.  He's not budging.  It's more tied to his strong opposition to the American governmental system, the idea of manifest destiny, a country who's wealth is tied to a history of slavery, and a lot of other stuff that makes him hella unwilling to spend his duckets south of the border.  I agree with him on a lot of these points, but he is also undeniably prejudiced against Americans.  So there's that too.
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2007, 02:56:12 pm »
Quote from: side_show on November 14, 2007, 02:39:17 pm
Yeah, it's more than that.  I mean I tell him I talk to nice Americans on a messageboard all the time and I point out that many of the bands and artists he enjoys are from the US of A.  He's not budging.  It's more tied to his strong opposition to the American governmental system, the idea of manifest destiny, a country who's wealth is tied to a history of slavery, and a lot of other stuff that makes him hella unwilling to spend his duckets south of the border.  I agree with him on a lot of these points, but he is also undeniably prejudiced against Americans.  So there's that too.
Hate to break it to him but Canada actually ended slavery AFTER the United States, and we both ended it over a hundred years ago. Does he also have a problem with spending money in Egypt because of their enslavement of the Israelites?
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2007, 05:26:06 pm »
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This is basically true but most other countries don't demand the rest of the world subscribe to their worldview or face the threat of military force.
Also, easy target.

That's why I hate all of western Europe, so I guess I see your point.
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2007, 07:38:41 pm »
If you go to Cuba, and if you like baseball at all, take at least a half-dozen brand new baseballs with you.  If you come across a bunch of neighborhood kids playing a game, offer them a new ball.  They will immediately become your best friends and ask you to play with them.
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2007, 08:46:24 pm »
Quote from: A-CAP on November 14, 2007, 02:56:12 pm
Hate to break it to him but Canada actually ended slavery AFTER the United States, and we both ended it over a hundred years ago. Does he also have a problem with spending money in Egypt because of their enslavement of the Israelites?

Why are you arguing with me about someone else's opinions?  He's... he's not even here.  I told you he was prejudiced against you... don't you understand that prejudice isn't rational?  That's how... that's how it works. 

Anyway, compairing slavery in the US to slavery in Canada is sort of apples and oranges.  The number of slaves in the US was in the millions, where as the number in Canada was under 5000 according to any records I've ever seen, hence his stance that the US's wealth was built on slavery.  I  never said anything about Canada not having slaves - more than half the slaves in Canada were Aboriginal don't cha know.  Conversely I try to remind him that our country's wealth was built on the genocide of a group of people to which I belong ancestorally, so ummm... he should hate our country more than the US because they tried to annihilate my peeps.  My peeps!  I mean, "now it's personal," as they say in the movies  Then he points out the same genocide was enacted in the US, and well... There's basically no reasoning with him.  Like I said, he hates Americans.  I don't.  I hate a lot of things about America, but I don't hate Americans. 

Basically what I am telling you is that I will never convince him to go to Arizona. 

Besides, I don't want to go to Arizona for other reasons.  Mostly because it's where old dried up Canadians go, and I want to go where young virile Canadians go, okay?  Is it okay that I want to go somewhere to drink and fuck?  Because that's my idea of a vacation.  Drinking, fuck*ng and a beach.  I mean, my grandparents had a trailer in Yuma, and as far as I can tell, all they did was play hossshoes.  There was no drinking, I don't want to think about the fuck*ng... and uh... Man, now all I can think about is old people sex.  For fuck sake! 

Anyway, A-CAP I appreciate your alternate views.  If you wanna continue the "America's Wealth, built on slavery: yes or no" conversation, start a new thread for it.  See how I mod?  With a soft hand and an open mind.  (Damn, even "soft hand" still has me thinking about old people sex.  Gah!)
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2007, 08:59:52 pm »
Change "beach" to "delicious food" and I'm right there with you.

Great, now all I can think of is old people gumming delicious food. Look what you did!
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2007, 09:03:34 pm »
ive got little interest in the slavery: Canada Vs. USA fight. It was more a visceral response to a loosely rational prejudice against me, an american.
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2007, 11:04:47 pm »
WTF? Weren't we talking about Carribbean vacations? Dang, you can't turn your back on a thread for a second around here.
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2007, 11:23:22 pm »
See if I went to cancuun (that right?) I'd worry I'd run into hell of drunken frat boys.
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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2007, 01:02:37 am »
yeah, see, depending on your vacation timing, going to the Caribbean or Cancun could lead to your SO turning homicidal.
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2007, 02:09:58 pm »
Quote from: Doc on November 14, 2007, 11:23:22 pm
See if I went to cancuun (that right?) I'd worry I'd run into hell of drunken frat boys.

There is that risk. If you're looking to stay away from that (and who wouldn't?), may I suggest Aruba or St. Lucia. Both have good reputations as vacation spots for adults.
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2007, 03:10:44 pm »
Quote from: Golfhaus on November 15, 2007, 02:09:58 pm
There is that risk. If you're looking to stay away from that (and who wouldn't?), may I suggest Aruba or St. Lucia. Both have good reputations as vacation spots for adults.
Florida is the florida of the 80s, cancuun is the florida of the 90s, europe is the florida of the 00s. Cancuun is old school by now, I dont think youd run into too many drunken frat boys. <-- Male Fraternity member
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Re: All Inclusives?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2007, 04:53:16 pm »
um, based on the tiny amount I have kept up with kids from my High School, A-CAP is not correct.
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2007, 09:08:11 pm »
Yes, several of the young'uns I know have been to Cancun and Mazatlan and found it to be frat/sorority-ville in recent years.  It's likely about when you go, and we are travelling during the Canadian version of Spring Break.  It's called Reading Week here (don't know if anyone outside Canada calls it this) and happens on different weeks in February depending on where you go to university.  I think we're a little old for frat-style partying.  We're "get drunk off wine people," not "get drunk off of the cheapest beer/tequila possible" people, or "smoke lots of weed people" (anymore).  Also, we're not really "stay up all night people" anymore.  And Inev is right, the SO would go totally fuckin' nuts if the timing was wrong.   Hence: Cuba.  One of our friends is going to an all-inclusive in Cuba next month, so we'll have to find out how that goes for him.

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