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Your Number One Election Issue
« on: February 12, 2008, 01:48:45 am »
So, by now most of y'all must know what it is you will be voting about come November. What are Achewood fans' number one concern? The War? The Other War? Healthcare? The holy-shit-they-just-went-up-another-nickel-while-I-typed-this-sentence gas prices? What say you?
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 02:38:07 am »
The fact that everyone else on the planet hates us so damn much. That's the issue that matters the most to me. My daughter is almost four. I don't want her to spend her life living in the country that is The Bad Guy.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 02:43:09 am »
The ratcheting effect of exploding blob sized government. Also, Blowback.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 02:45:40 am »
Quote from: Golfhaus on February 12, 2008, 02:38:07 am
The fact that everyone else on the planet hates us so damn much. That's the issue that matters the most to me. My daughter is almost four. I don't want her to spend her life living in the country that is The Bad Guy.
Wouldn't it be worth it though if you could have a charismatic evil dude as a leader? I don't mean wrinkled old evil like Cheney but a serious unrepentant evil sonofabitch with stylish black outfits with huge collars a goatee.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 02:48:09 am »
I swear, my number one election issue is on the verge of being, I won't vote for anyone who calls up my phone with a recorded message about voting for him/her.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 02:51:40 am »
Hot Coffee, idiotic over reactions to
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 02:53:05 am »
top three, probably:
the fact that people really hate us lately

the fact that we are destroying the environment and I worry that I will be living in a wasteland in 40 years when Sens. McCain, Clinton, and Obama will be dead or senile

the fact that torturing people is so incredibly stupid and inhuman and unamerican that it makes me want to slap people. it doesn't work, either. This is really the one, quite frankly, that is pretty make-or-break to me. The only time in my life I have gotten so mad that I started screaming at someone (and possibly used the word Fuck in class) was when this one guy tried to defend the use of torture. Although I have been a pussy about that other times.
I heard this one interview with a guy who was imprisoned in Guantanamo because he pissed off someone in government in some other country (Turkey), and he told his fellow prisoners "it's OK, we're being given to the Americans. They won't torture us. they're good, kind people. I've been to their country, and Americans treat everyone with dignity."
I also heard an interview where an Air Force officer who used to run some kind of interrogation unit in the 90s talked about how the methods being used in Iraq/gitmo/etc are ineffective, and we didn't even use them on Nazis in WWII because back then we knew they were so ineffective, and thought they were inhumane. We had a lot of success in WWII with getting captured Germans to talk by... treating them well and gaining their trust.
Both of those made me want to slap some people, and also cry for our country.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 02:56:02 am »
Quote from: Doc on February 12, 2008, 02:45:40 am
Wouldn't it be worth it though if you could have a charismatic evil dude as a leader? I don't mean wrinkled old evil like Cheney but a serious unrepentant evil sonofabitch with stylish black outfits with huge collars a goatee.

Only if it's Chuck D, and he brings the S1W with him.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 03:01:07 am »
I would like less war, please, and definitely less wars that can logically only lead to even more wars.

In a strong but distant second, socializing medicine. C'mon people. Everyone with electricity other than us fuckin' has this. Lets quit being piddling dicks about a little bit more in taxes and fuckin' get on it. Seriously.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 03:06:22 am »
... but Chuck D isn't awesome, he is like the best ever. I love Chuck D.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 03:29:20 am »
Yea, and he isn't evil.

One issue?  Well there are so many, but if I am going to be selgiraffe it is the other war.  If not, basically just someone who will completely reverse the last 8 years.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 04:20:07 am »
Out of curiosity what are opinions on the Afganistan war? It's certainly more well recieved over here since it's gone a bit more smoothly, seems to have a definite enemy and was, arguably, a much more horrible regime than Saddam's, but I find myself wondering how much of that is just media bias. There certainly don't seem to be as many people crying for us to pull our troops out of there anyway.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 04:32:15 am »
Quote from: Doc on February 12, 2008, 04:20:07 am
Out of curiosity what are opinions on the Afganistan war? It's certainly more well recieved over here since it's gone a bit more smoothly, seems to have a definite enemy and was, arguably, a much more horrible regime than Saddam's, but I find myself wondering how much of that is just media bias. There certainly don't seem to be as many people crying for us to pull our troops out of there anyway.
It has gone just as poor as the Iraq war. The Taliban is still very much alilve, as is A-Q and Usama. The upside is that the opium poppy, which was suppressed by religious fundamentalists, is at an all time high in production. Heroin is cheaper and more potent than any other time in history, and its coming from Afghanistan. The DEA has admitted our troops are essentially a free armored guard for opium production. Spike up, kids, we've exported democracy!
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 04:33:43 am »
I'm pretty sure that the number one attitude concerning Afgahnistan is a solid, emphatic, "meh." I mean, it's good we toppled the Taliban and all, but it is seriously on the way back burner in the minds of most Americans. And most Europeans, apparently, because our secretary of defense is having a heck of a time getting any of them to commit more than warm fuzzies to the endeavour.

Randall Flagg for President! Oh wait....nevermind.
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Re: Your Number One Election Issue
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2008, 04:57:48 am »
What's been horrifically poetic is that... y'know... the longer and the more force we put into the charade of the "improving" Iraq, the more Afghanistan regresses into great swirling bowl of senseless awful.

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