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[jaydub]

I'm stripped down to the loincloth and oiling up as we speak.

It could get ugly, if ugly's your thing.

Hopefully some tasteful manscaping has already been accomplished.  Oil on body hair....ish.

[Golfhaus]

I have been known to vote Libertarian in the past, and have had the "wasted vote" argument too many times to count. I've always said that I only waste my vote when I vote for someone I don't really want, but am choosing as the lesser of two evils.

That being said, I probably won't vote Libertarian this year - we've seen economic libertarianism in action since 2000, where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears. I started calling myself a Libertarian for their social policies, and it seems like that part of the platform is being ignored (see the rumors that persisted for so long that Ron Paul might run for the Lib ticket).

[jaydub]

Oh, my Lord!  Bush policies Libertarian?  Libertine, perhaps.  In the way of a sailor staggering drunkenly through the red light district with his pockets splitting from raiding the ships' treasury.  Clinton was positively stingy in comparison.  We're still paying people not to grow tobacco, stuffing public funds into the oil companies' exploration coffers, servicing a groaning deficit, and making sure that massive corporate farms get treated with the gentle kid gloves intended for family businesses.  There has been an explosion of bureaucracy and its attendant thirst for public money, and all that ignores the anti-Libertarian adventures of our militaries.  The Libertarian party can be accused of many shortcomings (not the least of which is total ineffectiveness), but to tar them with Bush's brush is ludicrous.

[Golfhaus]

Perhaps I'm a little off there - I retract the comparison.

That being said, I'm now convinced that without government stepping in and DOING something, the people who own the factories will continue to move them to China. The people who own the software will continue to have Koreans and Indians update them (and answer the phone when someone can't make it work). The number of people running their own businesses will shrink, as the Walmarts and Home Depots and Barnes and Nobles will use their size advantage to erect a barrier to entry so high that no mortal can hope to climb over it.

[jay-ell]

Watch out JL, I'ma in this one.

I'm stripped down to the loincloth and oiling up as we speak.

JL, rugby hardens the body and the spirit. My body is a machine with purpose.

You guys are making me all tingly.  Stop saying the right things! 

[jaydub]

Nationalize Micro$oft!

[wombat]

Did I mention, vote for Bob Barr, the Libertarian savior for America?

OK, I feel better now. Carry on arguing.

[smick]

Small businesses are still the largest employers in the U.S. Wal-Mart may be the largest single employer, but compared to all of the small businesses it works with, it is a drop in the ocean. 

Your body may be comprised of mostly non-cancer, but that's generally of little comfort.

[Doc]

American politics is the best spectator sport ever.
Just saying.

[jaydub]

Better than Taiwanese parliamentary debate?

[Doc]

The game itself isn't the most complex or entertaining, but the colour commentary is great.

[AlohaDawg]

The game itself isn't the most complex or entertaining, but the colour commentary is great.

Oh, shit, not the race card. TOO SOON!

Also, I ain't got no loincloth but I know where to get a sumo belt. Still not sure if I want a piece of this...

but really, people, what good is a 'protest vote' or 'third party' vote as long as the electoral college still elects the president anyway?

[Doc]

Oh, shit, not the race card. TOO SOON!

Not what I meant, but canned anyway.

[Ben-San]

Man, I ain't tying on the mawashi yet but I've gotta say the idea that total deregulation will make everything better is a fantastic load of hoss shit. I mean unless you're really into plutocratic feudalism, then total deregulation works pretty good.

Also I was fully expecting Hillary Clinton's big surprise speech to be her dragging a lookalike out on stage, shooting the lookalike, blaming Skrulls and demanding a rematch.

[Doc]

Also I was fully expecting Hillary Clinton's big surprise speech to be her dragging a lookalike out on stage, shooting the lookalike, blaming Skrulls and demanding a rematch.

So awesome.