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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #165 on: December 05, 2010, 03:47:51 pm »

You can go to high school games much more cheaply, and the kids really care about the game!

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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #166 on: December 06, 2010, 06:28:04 am »

Can't you see the man has a broken heart? Have some compassion!

How many of you have lost your favorite team?  Not due to lack of fan support but because the owner wanted to move them away so he could make even more money.

How would you feel Nabu if your Chargers just suddenly ceased to exist?
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #167 on: December 06, 2010, 08:06:09 am »

that's a major league disappointment there, it would leave me heartbroken. i might even give up on mlb and go back to the minors for my national pastime fun
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #168 on: December 06, 2010, 01:34:18 pm »

How many of you have lost your favorite team?  Not due to lack of fan support but because the owner wanted to move them away so he could make even more money.


Thankfully, it seems fairly unlikely that the General Assembly will decide to move the University of Kentucky out of state.  True, they've done plenty of dumber things, but I think we're safe on this one.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #169 on: December 06, 2010, 02:05:47 pm »

Hey Mayor, looks like they're trying out there in DC. Werth as a home player? Not bad.

Yeah, I'm as surprised as anyone.  Honestly, though, I'd rather have had Dunn for four years than Werth for seven.

Unfortunately, the Nats are the kind of team that has to overpay ridiculously (rather than simply overpay as the Yankees do) to get free agents to come to town.

The bonus is not only is it expensive, but many (most?) of the people who go to NFL games are absolute fuckheads.

Truth.  I would not DREAM of taking my children to a Redskins game, except maybe if we were going to be in a suite and I knew we could avoid the rabble altogether.  An NFL game is NOT a family-friendly event.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #170 on: December 06, 2010, 02:43:40 pm »

How many of you have lost your favorite team?  Not due to lack of fan support but because the owner wanted to move them away so he could make even more money.

How would you feel Nabu if your Chargers just suddenly ceased to exist?

Hey now, I wasn't kidding. There's a very real chance that the Chargers will move to LA, and while that's not anywhere near as bad as what happened to the Oilers (and, indeed, the Chargers started out in LA), I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of rooting for a team from Los Angeles.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #171 on: December 06, 2010, 03:03:12 pm »

haha, as if l.a. cares about the nfl. that's a usc v ucla town when it comes to handegg, and an nba town when it comes to anything else.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #172 on: December 06, 2010, 03:10:49 pm »

after that scarring you're gonna let the nfl come back to town to play? sure, and i'll trade you this twenty for your enzo.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #173 on: December 06, 2010, 05:14:37 pm »

Just by the sheer volume of eyeballs, LA is getting a team. The question is, Buff/Jax/SD/Minn (I'm pulling for Minnesota, just because of the Lakers thing).
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #174 on: December 06, 2010, 06:11:11 pm »

imma go ahead and predict that an nfl team won't stay in L.A. for more than seven years.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #175 on: December 06, 2010, 07:15:31 pm »

So it's just assured that LA is going to get a team and it's going to be an existing team?  Why don't they start a new franchise?  And while they are at it why don't they start franchises in other cities that would love and support one?
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #176 on: December 06, 2010, 07:35:47 pm »

So it's just assured that LA is going to get a team and it's going to be an existing team?  Why don't they start a new franchise?  And while they are at it why don't they start franchises in other cities that would love and support one?

There's a lot of reasons for this, but I'll wager a couple:
1.  There just aren't that many more metropolitan areas with sufficient population and interest to support an NFL team.
2.  The league appears to be at a pretty sweet spot right now in terms of number of teams.  The way the schedule is developed is genius in its simplicity, and there's a pretty good balance in terms of number of teams making the playoffs--enough to keep things interesting for many teams through late in the season, without letting damn well near everyone in like the NBA and NHL.  Making the playoffs is an accomplishment, but not borderline impossible for many teams like it is in MLB.  Adding more teams would screw all that up.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #177 on: December 06, 2010, 08:05:48 pm »

care to wager a bottle of bourbon, ash? winner chooses. seven years.

when i recently lived in santa monica, nobody even gave a shit about the nfl - nothing about it, not even the superbowl - except the cowboys fans and giants fans that were transplanted. cowboy and giants fans are pretty much firm in their compositions, in that if a new team shows up outside their door, they won't even notice until their own favorite team comes to visit.

now if the rookie season of any new l.a. team is made up entirely of recent trojans, bears, and bruins alum, then you might win that bottle, because the fanbase will be built in: "oh my school's quarterback is in the nfl and i can go see him play here in town" "oh man i went to school with the wide receiver and running back, and the free safety was a year ahead of me" BUT since the chances of that happening are approximately e^(i*pi)+1 then i'm pretty confident about my wager.
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #178 on: December 06, 2010, 10:36:27 pm »

No expansion team because that would screw scheduling up. 8 divisions of four teams apiece works. Otherwise you'd have to go up to at least 36 teams total, and even then each conference would have 3 6-team divisions, which would make ten games in the division (although as I think on this just now, the proposed 18-game schedule might accommodate that quite nicely).
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Re: False Baseball for the New Generation
« Reply #179 on: December 06, 2010, 11:17:03 pm »

If they go to an 18 game schedule they're gonna need *****ic players.  The physical toll on those guys is enormous.  Even dumping a meaningless preseason game from the schedule, when you add playoffs on top of it - there's gonna be a lot more injuries like Frank Gore's.
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