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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2010, 05:02:06 pm »
Quote from: AugustWest on August 19, 2010, 08:07:56 pm
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2010, 05:24:50 pm »
This is unfortunate.
http://mattbors.com/blog/?p=2439

(Matt Bors and Ted Rall are touring Afghanistan right now.  Their dispatches are fascinating.  Rall's updates are at http://www.eurasianet.org/taxonomy/term/3030/0)
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2010, 11:54:05 pm »
"We don't hate Muslims, we just think that it's disrespectful and insensitive to build an Islamic center so close to Ground Zero. They are free to build it anywhere else, and we won't raise a fuss."

Really?

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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2010, 12:09:06 am »
the thing is, that is a stupid thing to be "sensitive" about.

like, your "sensitivity" is based on ignorance and lumping people together who are not the same.

the guy's comparison to building a shinto shrine next to pearl harbor pissed me off, because the shinto religion is nothing other than the religion of japan. it's not like one tiny faction of shintoists got together and attacked pearl harbor-- the nation of japan is the sum total of all shinto believers.

plus, I am sure there are shinto shrines on O'ahu.

plus, there were already mosques and islamic cultural centers near the WTC.

I am in favor of being "sensitive" when it makes sense.
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2010, 02:13:55 am »
Utica has been actually been very open to their mosque getting built.

It has understood that they're lucky ANY immigrant group is moving into Utica, ain't no one else wants to be there, if it's Bosnian Muslims...

They're just happy to have SOMEONE paying taxes. Anybody. Martians, they don't care.

The pluralism of desperation is kinda rad. Kinda... American.
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2010, 02:24:46 am »
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2010, 11:08:09 am »
Quote from: Carlos del Vaca on August 31, 2010, 05:24:50 pm
This is unfortunate.
http://mattbors.com/blog/?p=2439

(Matt Bors and Ted Rall are touring Afghanistan right now.  Their dispatches are fascinating.  Rall's updates are at http://www.eurasianet.org/taxonomy/term/3030/0)

Well that ate a couple of hours. Thanks. I want more of this Ted Rall guy.
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Re: Ground Zero Mosque
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2010, 12:53:58 pm »
His regular web site is tedrall.com.  Not for everybody, as he's liberal as all get-out and has done strips with not-so-popular opinions.  But to actually go over to Afghanistan (he went in 2001 as well) and check out what's going on there, rather than just opine on it from afar as so many American armchair warriors, that takes hell of sack.
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