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[Arachno-capitalist]

The joke there is that Lloyd Blankfein would give the hippies the time of day. If I gave my opinion on this I'd come off as activating some kind of Internet Debate Machine and I burned that sucker down after the LFM ACAP Flame War of '07.

[greenkoolayd]

Thirteen Observations made by Lemony Snicket while watching Occupy Wall Street from a Discreet Distance

the standouts:

5. There may not be a reason to share your cake. It is, after all, yours. You probably baked it yourself, in an oven of your own construction with ingredients you harvested yourself. It may be possible to keep your entire cake while explaining to any nearby hungry people just how reasonable you are.

7. Someone feeling wronged is like someone feeling thirsty. Don’t tell them they aren’t. Sit with them and have a drink.


have a thank-you-can, wombrat.

[jay-ell]

I think this is amusing and well-put.

I also think the OWS people are, on the whole, idiots.

[theinevitable]

11. Historically, a story about people inside impressive buildings ignoring or even taunting people standing outside shouting at them turns out to be a story with an unhappy ending.

Don't tend to think they are idiots. I just wish they would stop drumming. I do think that my acquaintances who are attending the St Louis marches as anarchists are idiots.

Not really sure who Lemony Snicket is. I mean, I know he (?) is a character in a book, but these lines did not give me a sense of who this character is, other than kind of obnoxious in how he speaks.

[wombat]

This
http://www.theawl.com/2011/10/ask-an-activist-why-should-we-demonstrate
has some interesting points about why it tends to be drummers and anarchists and other sort of people who make one roll one's eyes, who start this sort of thing, but that that doesn't mean it won't become something bigger. The piece rambles, but parts of it have made me change my stance to one of reserving judgment.

[theinevitable]

If nothing else, OWS is worthwhile as a counter-balance to the Tea Party. There are mad people who you need to try to placate on both sides (or, in some cases, on the same side).

I really enjoyed this article and this related snarky blog.

Thanks Wombat, I like that article too.

[Nabubrush]

If nothing else, OWS is worthwhile as a counter-balance to the Tea Party. There are mad people who you need to try to placate on both sides (or, in some cases, on the same side).

Ah, something to this. I know it isn't going to help, but I sort of want someone on the left with Fred Phelps levels of crazy. It seems (to me) that the left is constantly given the "two wrongs don't make a right" treatment. How come Michelle Bachmann can be batshit crazy and run for president?

[Arachno-capitalist]

If nothing else, OWS is worthwhile as a counter-balance to the Tea Party. There are mad people who you need to try to placate on both sides (or, in some cases, on the same side).

I really enjoyed this article and this related snarky blog.

Thanks Wombat, I like that article too.

Yeah man I was just thinking what we need is more polarization in this country.

[Nabubrush]

Yeah man I was just thinking what we need is more polarization in this country.

I think that genie is long since out of the bottle.

[Arachno-capitalist]

I think that genie is long since out of the bottle.

That makes it right?

[KeithHernandez]

Y'know, it's kinda shooting the left in the ass, in a way. They just got to be the side, in the last coupla years, that could claim more rational positions and fewer crazy people and now they're blowing it.

Oh yeah?

Or... When Reagon got Alzheimer's how did anyone know?

[Nabubrush]

Y'know, it's kinda shooting the left in the ass, in a way. They just got to be the side, in the last coupla years, that could claim more rational positions and fewer crazy people and now they're blowing it.

Yeah, but fuck it, it's their turn. I mean, no one really believes things are going to get better at this point, do they?

[theinevitable]

Hm.

It seems to me that the Tea Party has gotten Republicans to pay attention to them. They get what they want because they make a big stink. Liberals worry about not looking stupid, so they don't get anything done. This country has moved massively rightward. We need a strong, populist leftist movement.

Do the OWS people seem crazy? I have seen, so far, one sign that said "Bankers = Nazis" or whatever. I don't see it.

[theinevitable]

I will say that OWS is as bad as the Tea Party when they get some insane, unqualified people elected to public office. If we started electing anti-statist anarchists who want to mandate that all schoolchildren be taught the evils of organized religion in schools, and let everyone from Mexico who wants walk in, and hands out free abortion vouchers at his/her/zir rallies.

[wombat]

I will say that OWS is as bad as the Tea Party when they get some insane, unqualified people elected to public office. If we started electing anti-statist anarchists who want to mandate that all schoolchildren be taught the evils of organized religion in schools, and let everyone from Mexico who wants walk in, and hands out free abortion vouchers at his/her/zir rallies.

I second this.