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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 12:52:59 pm »

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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2012, 02:38:02 pm »

Just answering the question.

You should, however.

OK - Negatives (aka eccentrics/overloads). What are pros and cons? Do they increase the ability to do a concentric or are they bull?
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2012, 03:48:55 pm »

Supposedly its good for stimulating the growth of connective tissue, which might ultimately increase your capability for hypertrophy and power generation.  Its also the mechanism that produces soreness, so if you're a masochist its probably delightful.
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2012, 04:08:43 pm »

Supposedly its good for stimulating the growth of connective tissue, which might ultimately increase your capability for hypertrophy and power generation.  Its also the mechanism that produces soreness, so if you're a masochist its probably delightful.

I'm trying to break through a bench plateau. 5RM @ 205, 3RM @215, so I loaded 225 and did a couple negatives on top of that

Next subject: Back-off sets, bullshit or no?

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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2012, 05:00:07 pm »

EDT is a nice plateau buster.  One thing that frequently holds back gains in one movement is insufficient strength in the antagonistic area.  Your body will tolerate a certain amount of imbalance, but its not good for long term shoulder health if your bench gets sufficiently far past your back strength.  EDT, with its focus on complementary supersets and submaximal loading, can provide a good platform for additional max strength gains down the road.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2012, 05:46:51 pm »

You should, however.


OK, I'll bite.  Why?

Right now I'm in the best physical condition of my life.  I haven't touched a weight in at least five years.  I'm very happy with where I am and with the progress I continue to make.  So why should I?
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2012, 07:04:05 pm »

What's your goal here, functional burst strength or what?

A back-off set is fine if you got the time. I like to drop to 75% of my max reps and blow out 10-12 reps and clear the pipes, big on form. Big. MAJOR.

I gave the weights the finger this morning and ran four miles. Feeling strong. Pondering a 10k.

I'm not so concerned about the explosiveness, but functional strength is good. I try to balance endurance and strength and power, so 5x5s seem to be good for me (I'm not awesome enough to get on 5/3/1 or Texas yet).

A little hypertrophy or a recomp wouldn't be a bad thing.
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2012, 07:06:49 pm »

By all means, follow your own path.  My own reason for continued weight training (other than for questionably advisable athletic purposes) is the loss of lean muscle mass associated with aging1, and a (negative) correlation between lean mass and catastrophic falls in old age.  In other words, I'm working now for a healthier future2.

1Approx 1% per year after age 30
2http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22030953
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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2012, 07:17:44 pm »

By all means, follow your own path.  My own reason for continued weight training (other than for questionably advisable athletic purposes) is the loss of lean muscle mass associated with aging1, and a (negative) correlation between lean mass and catastrophic falls in old age.  In other words, I'm working now for a healthier future2.

1Approx 1% per year after age 30
2http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22030953

I am 100% with you.  But I build my lean muscle mass with ashtanga/vinyasa yoga.  I have had exponentially better results with it. 

What am I missing by not lifting?
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2012, 07:29:16 pm »

Since I returned to the weight room in 2008, I've added 15-18lbs of muscle mass (22lbs total).  That's additional functional mass in the bank.  I had spent the previous 11 years doing TKD and jujutsu 3-4 days/week to stay fit, but I realized my actual strength was declining, and when I got a caliper estimate of my bodyfat %, I was astonished to find it at 22%.  At 29 I was 155 and about 10% bodyfat.  At 39 I was 165 and 22% bodyfat.  Despite gaining 10lbs on the scale, I had actually lost 10lbs of lean mass in 10 years, despite a pretty good program of fitness.
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