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« on: January 15, 2004, 07:01:01 am »
so i decided that most javascript is stupid and turned it off.  now i seem to have a problem posting on phpbb boards unless i turn it back on (though i can keep most of the features disabled).  without javascript phpbb decides that i have not entered a message and tells me to go back and try again.  i'm too lazy to view the page source and figure out why javascript would have anything to do with it, so anybody want to tell me? :)
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2004, 07:01:54 am »
oddly enough, i just added that topic without any javascript.  goes to show that this phpbb board is cooler.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2004, 02:56:01 pm »
I choose to lurk, but resist deletion.
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PS-Can I drink Javascript?
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2004, 03:15:32 pm »
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PS-Can I drink Javascript?


Yes, it's quite tasty.

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2004, 03:36:29 pm »
gah, forced to come out of lurking...

anyway. It seems that every damn installation of phpBB I come across behaves slightly different from the next. There's certainly a lot of scripted stuff that happens at some.

But why disable JavaScript? Apart from pop-ups (and that is no issue if you use a decent browser) it only seems to be causing trouble as so many sites now depend on it. I'm no fan of JavaScript myself but you seem to only be punishing yourself.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2004, 06:48:44 pm »
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But why disable JavaScript? Apart from pop-ups (and that is no issue if you use a decent browser) it only seems to be causing trouble as so many sites now depend on it. I'm no fan of JavaScript myself but you seem to only be punishing yourself.


The problem is the "decent browser" part. Firebird doesn't come with JavaScript. I broke down and installed it but I'm still resisting Flash, mainly because I don't understand what I need to do to the registry.

Although with the "click to play" button installed I guess it wouldn't be so bad.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2004, 06:52:13 pm »
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I'm still resisting Flash, mainly because I don't understand what I need to do to the registry.


As far as I can see, it only sets the autoupdate status in registry. It's a straightforward plugin, whereas Java/script needs access what with it trying to be so much more.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2004, 09:28:29 pm »
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The problem is the "decent browser" part. Firebird doesn't come with JavaScript. I broke down and installed it but I'm still resisting Flash, mainly because I don't understand what I need to do to the registry.

Although with the "click to play" button installed I guess it wouldn't be so bad.


Firebird is indeed a decent browser, and what I use at home. However: I have never seen a released version of Firebird without native Javascript support. XUL, the language of the interface of the browser, is controlled by javascript, just as your preferences are stored in javascript files. It's in there.

Yes, the flash "click to play" extension is by far the best thing to happen to my web-browsing experiment since installing a "hidden" browser on my system for ...uh, well, nevermind.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2004, 09:39:39 pm »
According to the FAQ the installer version of Firebird has Java but the .zip verion does not and I'm using the latter.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2004, 10:07:03 pm »
Well, if you're talking about Java, no. JavaScript, see is an entirely different beast-- and made much of in my current mode of employment.

You can see why I thought it wise to correct you above; I certainly hope I didn't come across harpingly.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2004, 10:23:25 pm »
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Well, if you're talking about Java, no. JavaScript, see is an entirely different beast-- and made much of in my current mode of employment.


Hence why I wish they had stuck with ECML for Javescript, since otherwise it can get confusing.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2004, 11:46:35 pm »
Well, the official designation is ECMA-Script (punctuation and capitalization may not accurately represent the official designation), but that's not very easily pronounceable.

Eck-ma? Essmay?
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2004, 12:17:01 am »
It's Eck-Ma.

But that's too "european" for yanks.

And what does a European Computer Manufacturer's Association have to do with client-side scripting, anyway?
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2004, 12:35:27 am »
Another grand point, boss. I don't think I'll ever understand that facet of it all.

Something about the juxtaposition of those letters, though, makes me want to say Eessma. Really, I couldn't tell you what that something is.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2004, 03:03:11 am »
Doh. Stupid memory of mine.
ECML being the European conference on machine learning, which I know through AI and *****ics interest.

But fuck-ups aside, they really shouldn't have called it Javascript. It's stupid.
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