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« on: February 15, 2004, 08:02:41 am »
I came across an interesing article over at FARK about a new Metallica documentary.  Apparently it's an unblinking look at the band in full spinal tap mode during the making of their latest record.  The critics are lovin' it as you might expect.  I'm sure they make themselves into very easy targets.  I'd like to see it because it's fun to see celebrities act like jerks.  I bought the album when it came out, but only listened to it once, it's pretty bad.   Just out of curiosity tonight, after reading that article I played the DVD which came with the album to make sure my first impression was correct. The DVD is a live in studio performance and it doesn't improve on the CD whatsoever.  I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt because they were such an awesome band at one time and it pains me to see them sink so far.  First their was the Napster fiasco and now there's this giraffe placenta of a record.  It's really horrible horrible music.  I am listening with incredulity, how can this be the same band that made For Whom The Bell Tolls?  Fade to Black?  Master of Puppets?  One?  Enter Sandman even?  It breaks my heart.

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2004, 03:17:59 pm »
I remember when that Napster hullaballoo first started, they had an interview with the guys in Rolling Stone or something, and Lars talked about hanging out with James and traading tapes of their favorite bands like Sabbath/Priest/Maiden, stuff like that. That just killed me.

Also, I'm with you. A buddy of mine got sent off to boarding school in the early 80s and came back for the holidays or something and brought back Kill 'Em All. Living in AK, it was hard to get exposed to new music. I was listening to Accept or some shit, along with the aforementioned bands, and I took to Metallica with a passion. I saw the Justice tour, and I thought that it was one of the best concerts I'd seen - complete with unintended pyro effects when a monitor burst into flames and they were unable to clear the building to deal with it (foreshadowing of the Great White thing, but my understanding is that this has happened before with Metallica as well).

That was pretty good shit, but once that "black" album came out, I had some sense that they were slipping. It just seemed like they weren't as vital, really. I still like their first four albums, but when it comes down to it, in the last 15 years they've released what, four actual albums? And I don't know if you call Load and Reload a double album that was released at slightly different times or what.

On top of that, what's with the treatment of Jason Newsted? Every time I read anything about when he joined the band, the main impression that I get is that the other guys felt like the only way to make him feel at home/make him understand that he would never be accepted was some kind of fraternity hazing ritual. He points out all sorts of treatment that would basically be gay-bashing in another context. And quite frankly, from everything I've ever seen of Kirk Hammett, I thought he was gay.

Sorry to ramble; these guys were really important to me at one point.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2004, 03:20:37 pm »
It's cool, man. I think we all had a phase of our lives where Metallica was authentically important to us.

Personally, I'm listening to "Master of Puppets," urged on by this thread. And it is good. It is sad what they have become, but once they were good, if only for a little while.

(I will confess I enjoyed "S&M" a lot, but it was a flagrant gimmick album. But a good flagrant gimmick album.)
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2004, 04:28:04 pm »
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It's cool, man. I think we all had a phase of our lives where Metallica was authentically important to us.


I didn't. Ever.
I've just always hated them. I don't know why but I just never liked the sound. Plus, Lars is a dick, and Hetfield's voice pisses me off.

I have to say though, I am not averse to metal, just all depends.

For instance, P***** - Grohl's long awaited, guest filled metal project has just been released, and some of it's quite good. Very heavy, and well, I need to listen to it all through properly, but it seemed like there were a couple of weaker tracks to me. But I digress.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2004, 04:28:19 pm »
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It's cool, man. I think we all had a phase of our lives where Metallica was authentically important to us.



Sorry, but no.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2004, 05:09:28 pm »
Big, big ups to Udo Dirkschneider, eh? What a peculiar little man.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2004, 06:22:02 pm »
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totally shooting down my assertion about Metallica

Well, fine, whatever.

... To be honest, the phase of my life in which Metallica was authentically important was... about a week. But I mostly intended it as a solidarity Brother sort of post anyway.

Bah!
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2004, 06:38:46 pm »
If you never enjoyed Metallica in any way (even ironic enjoyment counts) then you shouldn't be here. It's why I skip all VU threads. Also CCR, after I express my displeasure.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2004, 06:50:40 pm »
I didn't say there was anything wrong with enjoying Metallica, just that I never had.  I generally try to refrain from making fun of others' tastes (unless they're just too contemptible to ignore).  One of my major pet peeves is when someone makes fun of something I'm eating.  It irks me no end when some Yap asks me, "What's that?  Eeeeeeewwww, you're eating that?  Yuck!"  Don't like it, don't eat any.  So, no Metallica ain't really my cup o' tea, but I recognize that many folks enjoy their music.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2004, 06:52:56 pm »
I's just foolin'. After they all got mullets, I pretty much gave up. What would Cliff had said?
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2004, 07:29:10 pm »
I knew so many people so into Metallica. I never got it, either. I do, however, see the parallel here with so many once good or relevant bands: Time to stop touring now, Grandpa. Time for your medicine and a nap.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2004, 08:53:57 pm »
I learned to play guitar by learning Metallica songs - and while I enjoyed the Black album, it was "And Justice..." that signaled their downfall to me.

I mean, One?  That was pretty much "Fade to Black" but cheesy.

Master of Puppets is still one of my favourite albums from my adolescence.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2004, 04:17:58 am »
Master of Puppets is a genius album, but my favorite Metallica is the $5.98 Garage Days Re-revisited EP.  Twenty minutes of pure head-splitting goodness.

And Justice...was a huge letdown: too complex by half, no bass and what happened to the snare drum?  The Black Album had one good song on it ( Through the Never ).  The Load albums were horrible.

I thought Garage Inc. would be great, but other than the $5.98 tracks and the Justice B-sides, wow, what a load of COMPLETE fuck*ng KIBBLE.  Especially the acoustic version of "Tuesday's Gone," which may very well be the worst song I've ever heard.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2004, 05:50:28 pm »
I noticed that most of their covers really didn't make me want to listen to them. I like to hear a cover and think "wow, there's stuff there that is different and interesting" but there really wasn't much there, I thought. I felt pretty burnt by the "Whiskey in the Jar" cover, especially. Those and "Last Caress/Green Hell." It's like this Atari's thing - (and I hate to type this, but it fits) WTF?
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