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Trivial Pursuits => People & Places => Topic started by: linnea on June 05, 2006, 08:23:18 am
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DAMMIT. So I'm single and living the rad life in Alaska, a land where the odds are good but the goods are odd if you know what I mean. Anyway, I was visiting my moms and telling her about the new baby that some of my friends have.
Me: "Well, at least I have ten to fifteen more years to have a kid. I have no idea how to prepare for that. Who knows when I'll be ready."
Mom: "But you don't have 10 more years! You're 27 already! I was DONE with menopause when I was 42! So was my mother! and her mother!"
Me: "But one of the women in my town had her first baby when she was 40, and the second at 42! And they're both awesome and healthy!"
Mom: "Honey, I don't want to scare you but you definitely don't have that much time."
Sweet angry jeezus. I asked her if she wanted me to run out and get knocked up just so she could have a grandchild, and that made her pretty mad.
Is this for real? Doesn't modern medicine have something they can do to postpone menopause? This is crazy. If we can put people on the moon and if 68-year-old Italian women can give birth, then dammit so should I! How much does it cost to bank some ova?
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15k (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/21/health/21egg.html?ex=1149652800&en=18691e33f2eae32b&ei=5070) as of 2004, plus 40 bucks a month for storage.
As for delaying, it seems not, some people are kicking various ideas around regarding growing eggs from stem cells and similar but realistically it takes decade (usually closer to two) for a new drug to come to market so I wouldn't be holding my breath on being able to get people to grow you up new egg cells any time soon. And as far as I understand it hormone replacement therapy is only any good for the symptoms, not for pro-longing the baby making and apparently isn't such a great idea anymore anyway.
I'm sure I don't need to add this: But you can be a perfectly valid member of the human race without ever spawning, and doing it for it's own sake has always seemed like a bad idea for me (that said it seems to work out for most people so what do I know?).
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Doesn't modern medicine have something they can give to moms so they don't pressure their children to have children that they are not ready to have?
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So what's wrong with running out and getting knocked up?
Do you hate your mother? Do you not want to make major life changes just to make her happy?
Jeebus, Somebody nicetrousers. What kind of a daughter are you?
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hm.
I would say, 27 to 42 is a pretty good number of years.
there are plenty of chances to get to have a "bun in the oven" in that time.
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Having children after age 40 is still fairly risky but it's way riskier to rush into something for no reason. You were engaged to to crap-dude at one point, don't end up with a crap baby-daddy.
But then I hate children with an intensity most people reserve for Hitler so you might want to ingore my advice in this realm.
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You were engaged to to crap-dude at one point, don't end up with a crap baby-daddy.
Good point. Cort may hate kids, but he's good at keeping track of what happened to the characters in previous episodes.
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I hate children with an intensity most people reserve for Hitler
That's gross.
~Paul
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My mom started mentioning stuff about this like 4 years ago. I informed her that she also had a daughter who was planning on popping out mewling spawn like there was no tomorrow. This did not work.
I told her that there were quite a number of people in the world already who had it basically pretty shitty and I didn't really feel like adding to that pool at the moment. This did not work either.
I then told her exactly what sort of names I had in mind if I accidentally procreated in the near future. That seemed to work pretty well as I haven't heard much about it since. YMMV though, so you know, use it sparingly.
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My mom started mentioning stuff about this like 4 years ago. I informed her that she also had a daughter who was planning on popping out mewling spawn like there was no tomorrow. This did not work.
I told her that there were quite a number of people in the world already who had it basically pretty shitty and I didn't really feel like adding to that pool at the moment. This did not work either.
I then told her exactly what sort of names I had in mind if I accidentally procreated in the near future. That seemed to work pretty well as I haven't heard much about it since. YMMV though, so you know, use it sparingly.
See I'm an only child. I've been hearing about my parents wanting grandbabies since I was like 6. But I would make a horrible father because I just plain can't stand kids. I'm like the bad guy in a live-action Disney movie. Hell, I've never even seen a baby picture that I could call "cute" and those are silent.
Luckily the SO doesn't want kids either (although she at least has a healthier attitude towards them). So we're like a ZPG-credit for some family that has 4 kids.
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So we're like a ZPG-credit for some family that has 4 kids.
Dang, we ought to be able to get money for that.
My mother never bugged me about this. I don't know if this is because of some innate good sense on her part, or whether she mentioned it once a long time ago that I don't remember and I bit her head off. Seriously, I don't understand how someone who has children and knows what that entails, could possibly pressure someone to do it who's reluctant about it - you'd think that instead they'd tell you to think long and hard. I guess they just can't imagine the state of not wanting children, and assume that as soon as you have one of your own, you'll see the light. Because it can't be that they want grandchildren who are unwanted by their parents, right?
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I have lots of this sort of thing, just not about having kids (it's not like I need to contribute to Swindon's Highest Rate Of Pregnancy In Teens accolade.)
People from my very-Christian village keep asking if I am Christian yet. Like Wombat said about mothers, maybe it's hard for them to imagine being in a state of non-Christianity/non-motherhood, and don't understand why other people don't want God/bairns in their lives. They are creepy people but very nice.
My grandad keeps asking if I've got a girlfriend yet. I think he's afraid I'm turning out gay, as is the rest of my family. So it's always 'So son, ha'e ye got yerself a girl yet?' and then he punches me on the shoulder. I love my Scottish lineage.
But I needn't be forced into having kids, I have three strapping young brothers to fill out the grandkid quota. I'll just be the pyaner playin' bachelor.
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Dang, we ought to be able to get money for that.
You will. We are making the taxpayers and social security contributors and the caregivers of tomorrow.
As for kids, if you don't want them, please don't make them.
If you aren't ready for them or don't feel like you can provide adequately don't make them.
If you have a plan where you expect to get ADC or WIC or some other program, don't make them.
If your entire reasoning is to get your mom off your back or save a relationship, don't make them.
I love kids - I have very rarely met a kid I didn't like. In general, they are energetic, honest and interesting to be around. However I have met many, many parents who I can't stand though.
As for banking, paying big bucks for fertility treatments after 40, etc...I find the whole baby creating industry kind of unnatural, but I also know some really wonderful people who were in their 20s and 30s who had to resort to treatments to have kids, and they are great parents and great families. I also suspect some of the celebrity moms out there have an 'accessorizing' mindset when they have high-profile pregnancies and children with weird names.
Just be you, Somebody nice. If that you doesn't have kids, your mom will have to deal with that. If your mom is that type that will overparent you, parent your parenting, and counter-parent your kid, don't do it within 1000 miles of her.
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my parents know I love kids, so they assume this will translate into grandkids.
I think I probably will have kids. But not while I'm young... I'll wait 'til I'm older. that seems the most reasonable thing to do.
although, the kind of ladies I seem to fall for are always anti-kid (not like I ask them. as in "I hate babies and children with a fervor")
I constantly get "when you have kids..." comments. it makes me laugh.
we also learned in bio class that one american child uses the resources that like 100 third-world-country kids would. So maybe it's better to not have kids.
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My grandad keeps asking if I've got a girlfriend yet. I think he's afraid I'm turning out gay, as is the rest of my family. So it's always 'So son, ha'e ye got yerself a girl yet?' and then he punches me on the shoulder. I love my Scottish lineage.
I initially read this to mean turning out gay like the rest of your family. I assume that isn't right.
You should ask him if he's tried sex with men yet. That ought to be worth a punch in the shoulder. Or tell him you do, and she's saving up for her operation so you can consummate the relationship.
As for the Christian thing, it's a little odd to ask someone if they are a Christian 'yet'. I've never heard the question put that way.
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You will. We are making the taxpayers and social security contributors and the caregivers of tomorrow.
Well I hope your kids are going to change my diaper often enough in the nursing home then, since I don't have any kids of my own to nag them about it. I worry about this, but it's definitely up there with the worst reasons to have kids that I can think of (the other one is that a doctor once told me that my menstrural cramps would be less bad afterwards if I had a baby.)
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we also learned in bio class that one american child uses the resources that like 100 third-world-country kids would. So maybe it's better to not have kids.
Pffffft. What that has to do with biology I'm not sure. That's a socio-political statement and it strikes me as nothing much more interesting than liberal guilt. Of course, you can go to a third-world country to have your kids...
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we were learning about "current environmental topics". Population growth, global warming, etc. We learned that birth rates are a ton higher in less-industrialized nations, but that they use fewer resources. I would call that "the truth." The amount of oil, natural gas, etc. used per American is many many times higher than in other nations.
the "so maybe it would be better not to have kids" was my own conclusion.
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Well I hope your kids are going to change my diaper often enough in the nursing home then, since I don't have any kids of my own to nag them about it. I worry about this, but it's definitely up there with the worst reasons to have kids that I can think of (the other one is that a doctor once told me that my menstrural cramps would be less bad afterwards if I had a baby.)
Trust me, that was not a reason to have kids, just a response to your statement. I'm asking for euthanasia before diaper stage. Based on my experience with nursing home staff, you'll wish you had your kids around. It's not a good thing.
I have kids because I love kids, because I am confident that my kids will be successful, and because I believe families are the basic foundational unit of healthy, growing communities.
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we were learning about "current environmental topics". Population growth, global warming, etc. We learned that birth rates are a ton higher in less-industrialized nations, but that they use fewer resources. I would call that "the truth." The amount of oil, natural gas, etc. used per American is many many times higher than in other nations.
the "so maybe it would be better not to have kids" was my own conclusion.
The way I see it, you can't use resources that aren't there. If you dropped a family from one of those places in the middle of the US, do you think they could avoid using resources at a pace far beyond the possible where they came from? It's a silly argument to say that my kids have very much choice in terms of consumption - we can reduce, reuse, recycle, try to be energy efficient, conserve gas -so maybe if we did all that we'd be only 50 times the consumption. Here's the problem - we're now at half the consumption (good) but that family over there is in the exact same place (bad) no matter how we behave over here.
Americans give a lot to charity, probably leading the world in aggregate. The US government supports more aid programs in more places than anyone as well. The idea that when my kids throw a light switch or ride a bus, somehow that costs a child in a third world country something is not only pointless but is a backwards way to look at the problem. If you feel like you help a kid in Namibia out more by switching to lower wattage bulbs than by contributing to UNICEF or Oxfam, I think you are kidding yourself (unless you saved money on your electric bill and sent that to UNICEF or Oxfam).
I you choose to have kids, raise them to be consious and understand the world, and to make a difference. I don't think that's such a bad way to approach the problem either.
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Overpopulation is at the heart of every major problem the world faces.
~Paul
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The way I see it, you can't use resources that aren't there. If you dropped a family from one of those places in the middle of the US, do you think they could avoid using resources at a pace far beyond the possible where they came from? It's a silly argument to say that my kids have very much choice in terms of consumption - we can reduce, reuse, recycle, try to be energy efficient, conserve gas -so maybe if we did all that we'd be only 50 times the consumption. Here's the problem - we're now at half the consumption (good) but that family over there is in the exact same place (bad) no matter how we behave over here.
I think the problem is more systemic. Our society is set up to consume, consume, consume. Whether or not reducing our use of resources would help someone else, I don't think it's healthy for us. I'm afraid that our way of life is making us fat, jaded and lonely.
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I think the problem is more systemic. Our society is set up to consume, consume, consume. Whether or not reducing our use of resources would help someone else, I don't think it's healthy for us. I'm afraid that our way of life is making us fat, jaded and lonely.
Also, AD's argument overlooks the fact that we don't consume only our own resources, we take from the rest of the world.
~Paul
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As for the Christian thing, it's a little odd to ask someone if they are a Christian 'yet'. I've never heard the question put that way.
I usually hear it as "Have you found Jesus?"
I haven't, but I did find a $20 bill on the street, which brought me a lot more fortune than Jesus ever has.
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I usually hear it as "Have you found Jesus?"
I wish someone would ask me this so I could say "Why, have you lost him?"
I didn't know there were very Christian villages in England. This does not fit with my admittedly out-of-date mental picture at all.
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I think the problem is more systemic. Our society is set up to consume, consume, consume. Whether or not reducing our use of resources would help someone else, I don't think it's healthy for us. I'm afraid that our way of life is making us fat, jaded and lonely.
I think I can agree with that to some degree - but there was an attempt to link our lifestyle to a third world child's poverty and I don't think that is a really good connection. What I think may be true is that more people consider it a responsibility to help people in circumstances, and also that we find a way to give people good objective information about the performance of charitable organizations worldwide - that could give more confidence to people who want to give, and bring more accountability to the organizations.
I also think it's too simplistic to boil the world's problems down to a bumper sticker about overpopulation. As for overlooking our consumption pattern, I have to disagree - I pointed out that we pay for a lot or resources on a world market. We spend a lot of money for oil and fuel. We don't take resources from anyone, we even pay for oil from Iraq, where it would be most likely we could take it if we wanted. The problem is not that we are running around stealing from people - we don't now, and even in the 19th century and the run-up to WWI, we weren't doing it on even close to the scale that the powers of Europe were doing it during the empire-building phases of the UK, Germany, Belgium and France.
Sadly, none of this will prevent Linnea from going into early menopause.
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I think I only just convinced my family that I didn't get married "under circumstances", since it has now been roughly 9 months since we eloped, and I do not have a screaming banshee in my arms right now.
That shook my mom up enough, so it should be a long time before I get the grandkid pressure.
I worry about it, though. There never seems to be a good time, you know? Of course, as I think Dawg said once, you're never ready, you just have to do it. I think I still have to wait until the grad school is mostly done before I start popping out the kids.
And though liberal guilt has made me really want to be an adoptive/foster parent rather than contributing to overpopulation, my biological drive is just too strong to not at least try to have kids the old fashioned way. It's rare that I recognize evolutionary pressure in my everyday life, but my urge to propagate my genes is just too damn strong to head straight for adoption.
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I don't think you have to feel bad about not wanting to adopt. I mean, we're not talking about a puppy here.
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I don't think you have to feel bad about not wanting to adopt. I mean, we're not talking about a puppy here.
Oh, so I'm a puppy now, am I?
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Oh, so I'm a puppy now, am I?
If it makes you feel better cort, I think of you as more of a mongrel.
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<-- also a puppy.
I just hope more people think about adopting needy American kids before they go to China or Thailand or Russia.
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You have to admit 'cortjstr'ing has become a euphemism for going and fetching....
I'm not huge on the idea of kids though I know my girlfriend wants some someday. Either way it's not something I want to think about until I'm about 30, by which time I should actually be able to provide a decent life for any of the bottom feeding spawnlings that do show up and too old to actually have any fun anyway.
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about 30.... too old to actually have any fun anyway.
AAIIIEEEE.
And of course you all know I think there is nothing better than a puppy.
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I have kids because I love kids, because I am confident that my kids will be successful, and because I believe families are the basic foundational unit of healthy, growing communities.
I tend to be of a belief that one can be part of a family that deeply contributes to a community, without having any kids. Which is not to say that being a parent who raises good kids isn't of high value within a community, but one's family can contribute just as richly through other actions, if kids aren't in the mix.
Wombat raised the "dying alone" thing - you know the bane of the childless family? The cliche we hear in our heads from time to time? I tend not to worry about this. You basically don't have to be afraid of aging and dying alone if you are active within your community. I've been to enough funerals to know this.
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So what's wrong with running out and getting knocked up?
Do you hate your mother? Do you not want to make major life changes just to make her happy?
Jeebus, Somebody nicetrousers. What kind of a daughter are you?
Heh! That's why I <3 the Jough.
I have a very acute sense of unworthiness, as Americans hog a huge percentage of the world's resources. It is just how our economy was structured. I cannot ignore the fact that Americans' ecological footprints are huge. At the same time, there must be new seed to continue paying the social security and what have you. I guess for me it boils down to my faith in our culture. Are we really the new Roman Empire, which is getting fit to burn and end in a firey apocalypse? Or should I just calm the hell down and have children, as Gwyneth Paltrow encouraged (rolls eyes).
It is indeed tough. As CJ and countless others have stated, I was engaged to a crap dude. I certainly don't want to have a crap husband. I don't want to say "never", but I sure don't want to have a babydaddy.
I need to calm the hell DOWN. I don't know why I get so neurotic about this. I don't even have a boyfriend, let alone a husband who wants kids.
Crazy dreams: I dreamed last night that I was pregnant on our island (no hospital, just a clinic) and that I went into labour during my 8th month. I think that i had this weird-ass dream was because I was reviewing OB-GYN emergencies in my paramedic textbook. In my dream, I had abruptio placentae, and they had to do an emergency C-section and do a hysterectomy. I don't know how they did that, since we don't have an OR in our clinic. In the dream, I was totally in awe of the baby because I felt such love for her, but I also felt really sad that this was my first and last child due to the hysterectomy. I remember that I was very worried that I did not have a carseat or bassinet for the little baby, who was a girl. Then a bunch of people gave me a carseat and other necessities from the church. After that, in a separate dream, I dreamt that my teeth cracked and fell out. WTF?
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The hysterectomy thing kind of makes sense if you are worrying about waiting until it is too late, the teeth thing I have heard is meant to represent death. And not in the 'death can be symbolic of a new beginning' way.
That said I've had the teeth dream too and I'm still breathing (and keeping my murdering to a healthy and sustainable level).
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it's not something I want to think about until I'm about 30... too old to actually have any fun anyway.
:P
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Either way it's not something I want to think about until I'm about 30, by which time I should actually be able to provide a decent life for any of the bottom feeding spawnlings that do show up and too old to actually have any fun anyway.
I'm waaay too old to have any fun. I guess it's time I suicided myself.
~Paul
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No Paul! No!
Us oldsters must hang around to provide a grim example to these kids today. Also, who will keep the damn kids off'n our lawns if we are not here?
Plus, you are a rad friend.
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Wait wait wait... are you telling me I only have 2 years left to fit in all my fun?
Well shit... I guess I'm off to the brothels then; fuck this whole working thing. Fuck it with a 10 foot pole of fuckjustice.
(I am sorry board for all the unnecessary swears. I am sorry about this. ((Not really)))
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I tend to be of a belief that one can be part of a family that deeply contributes to a community, without having any kids. Which is not to say that being a parent who raises good kids isn't of high value within a community, but one's family can contribute just as richly through other actions, if kids aren't in the mix.
Wombat raised the "dying alone" thing - you know the bane of the childless family? The cliche we hear in our heads from time to time? I tend not to worry about this. You basically don't have to be afraid of aging and dying alone if you are active within your community. I've been to enough funerals to know this.
I never said childless people can't or don't contribute. But you have to admit a village doesn't last too long if noone has kids. And it definitely won't grow.
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My grandad keeps asking if I've got a girlfriend yet. I think he's afraid I'm turning out gay, as is the rest of my family. So it's always 'So son, ha'e ye got yerself a girl yet?' and then he punches me on the shoulder. I love my Scottish lineage.
If you are a teen whose family is worried about him turning out gay, leave the door unlocked while masturbating to lesbian porn. A moment of embarrassment is compensated by never again being asked if you are perhaps planning to run off and bang a dude. Unless, of course, you actually are turning out gay, in which case all I can say is get it over with and bring home someone strapping and clean-shaven with a nice haircut.
Either way I don't really think it'll help with the pressure-to-Christianize thing, but let's take things one day at a time.
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I never said childless people can't or don't contribute. But you have to admit a village doesn't last too long if noone has kids. And it definitely won't grow.
Oh, I was trying to expand on what you wrote, not dispute it... I didn't think you were saying families without children don't contribute, I just wanted to add on that even if you don't breed, you can still be just as important to the social fabric. Since wombat is, you know scared, and shouldn't be, and Somebody nice is not ready for mommyhood, but feeling the heat, it's good to cheerlead for not breeding as a positive choice for those who choose it. As for Wombat, she's good people, and zoo people too. If the zoo comunity don't love her enough to make sure she gets daily buckets of raw giraffe and a nice safe enclosure with water and such, or whatever her needs may be upon retirement, she has the messageboard people. I'll dabble your drooly chin wombat. Don't you worry.
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Thank you, Smells, I feel much better, especially because I really do love me some raw giraffe, you know.
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holy damn do not watch Rosemary's Baby.
all of my (female) friends are now afraid to have a baby.
and I think that Mia Farrow is gorgeous.
... I mean, yeah, I am scared of babies too.
instead of getting caught whackin' it, how about just ogle girls more obviously?
my mom got a real chuckle out of seeing me basically drool at this one girl.
that's a real swish way to do it.
did I use it right?
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Oh, I was trying to expand on what you wrote, not dispute it... I didn't think you were saying families without children don't contribute, I just wanted to add on that even if you don't breed, you can still be just as important to the social fabric. Since wombat is, you know scared, and shouldn't be, and Somebody nice is not ready for mommyhood, but feeling the heat, it's good to cheerlead for not breeding as a positive choice for those who choose it. As for Wombat, she's good people, and zoo people too. If the zoo comunity don't love her enough to make sure she gets daily buckets of raw giraffe and a nice safe enclosure with water and such, or whatever her needs may be upon retirement, she has the messageboard people. I'll dabble your drooly chin wombat. Don't you worry.
Thank you, smells. It is weird that my moms is making my biological clock tick by proxy.
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instead of getting caught whackin' it, how about just ogle girls more obviously?
Make no small plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood and probably will not themselves be realized.
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Make no small plans. They have no magic to stir men's blood and probably will not themselves be realized.
Daniel Burnham. Ben, are you in Chicago?
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Daniel Burnham. Ben, are you in Chicago?
Only in the metaphorical sense that we are all, to some degree, in Chicago.
Also, looking at that post in retrospect, it looks like Slam Bradley is making that pronouncement, which pleases me.
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Thank you, smells. It is weird that my moms is making my biological clock tick by proxy.
Moms do that.
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Only in the metaphorical sense that we are all, to some degree, in Chicago.
Is Chicago. Is not Chicago.
*alternatingly pointing towards self and then towards Chicago*
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Is Chicago. Is not Chicago.
*alternatingly pointing towards self and then towards Chicago*
That was the reference, Mr. Obvious.
Do I have to start taking cans away or something?
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Um, what was the reference?
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wombat: simultaneous reference to two Soul Coughing songs, both from the same album:
http://www.lyricstime.com/soul-coughing-is-chicago-is-not-chicago-lyrics.html
http://www.lyricstime.com/soul-coughing-screenwriter-s-blues-lyrics.html
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That was the reference, Mr. Obvious.
Do I have to start taking cans away or something?
Look man, I did not sleep last night. They can't all be golden alright? ALRIGHT?!
(I did, for extra points, include HOW that song was formed, so at least credit for that.)
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Though really, it's not too hard to figure out how a soul coughing song was conceived. As I recall, the stories all start out "So we were pretty high..."
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Though really, it's not too hard to figure out how a soul coughing song was conceived. As I recall, the stories all start out "So we were pretty high..."
Well in this case it was LSD and not weed, but essentially yes.
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I find it hard to imagine that Mr. Doughty ever restricted himself to just one drug at a time.
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I love how occaisionally, a band will come up that everyone knows. That I have never heard of. How do I miss these bands? I read so many books about music. All Music Guide is my life. But some of these just miss me entirely.
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Did I accidentally make a clever reference? I have never heard the songs under discussion. Am I presumed to have referred to them?
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Did I accidentally make a clever reference? I have never heard the songs under discussion. Am I presumed to have referred to them?
See jough? SEE?! I was not stating the obvious! I was giving Ben-AFK education!
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Man, Ben, you somehow managed to allude to like three different songs all from the same album in one sentence. It was, I thought, a masterwork of associative composition.
Obviously you must now go out and purchase Soul Coughing's "Ruby Vroom." It is a sign. The sign is that life is awesome.
Also, inev, it is likely that you were such as 13 years old when the band disbanded, and maybe ten or eleven when they put their first album out, so it is not unreasonable to expect that you may not have heard them. They weren't exactly Top of the Pops Radio Band.
Also, the other two Soul Coughing albums are also signs that life is awesome. They were such a good band.
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Mike Doughty's solo stuff is good, too, though I'll admit I've only really heard Skittish. Which I own on a little cd-r that I purchased from him following a show when he was touring around the country with just him and a guitar in a hatchback. Nice guy, too.
Asshole in the audience - "Freebird!"
Mike - "You! Freebird Guy! You are a cancer upon the body of rock!"
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Mike Doughty's solo stuff is good, too, though I'll admit I've only really heard Skittish. Which I own on a little cd-r that I purchased from him following a show when he was touring around the country with just him and a guitar in a hatchback. Nice guy, too.
Asshole in the audience - "Freebird!"
Mike - "You! Freebird Guy! You are a cancer upon the body of rock!"
You can now get Skittish and Rockity Roll on one convenient album. But I prefer Haughty Melodic. If for no other reason than that album names which are anagrams of the artist name rock my world.
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I have the double album CD but I have never actually listened to it. I heard it sucks and I just can't bring myself to hear it with older ears.
I should get Haughty Melodic, though.
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Man, I love coming back from long hiatuses (hiati?) I read the first couple of pages of the thread, which are on topic, then click to page 5 -- bam! All music! I'm surprised it's not about cats.
Have I mentioned that I love you people?
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I read early threads on this board, and you heathens used to close threads that had wandered off. How? Why?
I laughed pretty hard, once I figured out what was going on (ie: at first i said "wait, she's closing the topic? it's "Too Off-topic"... what does that mean?")
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I read early threads on this board, and you heathens used to close threads that had wandered off. How? Why?
I laughed pretty hard, once I figured out what was going on (ie: at first i said "wait, she's closing the topic? it's "Too Off-topic"... what does that mean?")
We've matured since then.
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Onstad used to have a tradition where whenever he'd get bored with a topic/thread he'd close it arbitrarily.
JL had a bit of fun for the first... year or so... doing the same.
I only closed threads that were LAME.