After posting this thread, I felt inclined to search for a particular comic from the archives. It's the one with older, fatter Philippe going "whatever, fag" to I forget whome. Anyways, seeing a fat Roast Beef from an alternate reality really reminded me of that strip. Hell if I could find it, though.

http://achewood.com/index.php?date=08012003

Good thread title.

This strip is solid. Onstad's been on fire of late.

This was a very compelling strip, something that's felt rare of late in Achewood. The panels were varied, the art carried the story, the dialogue complimented the whole presentation. Quite good.

I'm guessing that the subject line here was from an earlier incarnation of the alt-text?

Or were you just quoting the lyrics from Suzanne without quoting anything from the strip?

The latter. Change it if you will, but earlier ideas I tossed around were "SIDE B - LEONARD COHEN" and "a Walkman with orange foam headphones," but I decided to go metatextual on everyone's asses with the connection to oranges from the alt text and the song that should be mentally playing by reading this strip.

Just trying to change things up since the strip was so brief. Also, the song seems perfect for Beef.

I met a pimp today, and he said that he made more money than his "bitches".

What, from selling his own body? I'm confused on this one.

But seriously, pimps ain't cool.

They're certainly not.

God, Onstad's really taken a fall.  THis is one of Onstad's weakest strips.  Onstad truly has sold out.  Onstad's older work was better.  I feel like Onstad's older works should have a forum devoted to their discussion segregating them from Onstad's newer works.  Onstad's really quite awful nowadays.

I for one haven't been too happy with Onstad's recent output, but how has Onstad "sold out?" It's still a free, regularly-updated webcomic. He hasn't signed any publication deals with Dark Horse or anything (not that that would necessarily be selling out), hasn't watered down his creations into a televised program or web cartoon (not that that would be selling out), etc.

"Sell out" is a viable concept for many artistic creations. But a free webcomic with no major extra-electronic publishing?

I hope you're making a joke, because the only other option is that you're an unrealistic ass.

My first thought was "Great, now everyone at TOUAMB will be blathering on about how grand Molly is.. fuck that bitch."

Well, you hit that nail on the head. I just didn't feel until recently that much was being done with Molly. She's the only regular female character these days, but what purpose does she serve? I think it took Onstad a while to find sea legs with writing a female (the early Molly blog was so sex obsessed in comparison to the others that I had to cringe). Molly seems like the "straight man" character of the strip, much as Teodor is but without Teodor's insecurity. She needs something like this to define her, or else she's just there as background so Beef can blather about programming or vodka. I need a break from Ray and Beef.

http://achewood.com/index.php?date=05192006

My God, Molly comes into her own. This may make her smarter than Ray with his ball-sack technology.