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[Mantonio]

This place would be such a dull place if Jough was nice and had a pet bunny.

I thought Jough had a pet bunny...

...wait for it...

for dinner.

~Paul

Nah, I'm pretty sure it wassomeone else's pet bunny.

[Mantonio]

This place would be such a dull place if Jough was nice and had a pet bunny.

I thought Jough had a pet bunny...

...wait for it...

for dinner.

~Paul

Nah, I'm pretty sure it was someone else's pet bunny.

Holy Fuck, I suck at editing my own posts.

[V-Adore]

To jump in on the "Oriental" thing: I think it's definitely not as strongly offensive as many of the words for people of African heritage out there, but it's associated with an era of lack of tolerance; "Oriental" is associated with beliefs about "the mysterious Orient," right out of any terrible film noir movie you might care to name. I suspect it's more akin to terms like "colored" that are not so much deeply intrinsically offensive as it is representative of a more insensitive time.

[Bozack]

and Garden State tricked me into dating a girl who is like that. this is a bad idea.

I once dated a girl like that, until it came out that she liked me partly because she thought I was gay, and wanted to see me and some other dude fuck. That basically killed the romance.

[CortJstr]

and Garden State tricked me into dating a girl who is like that. this is a bad idea.

I once dated a girl like that, until it came out that she liked me partly because she thought I was gay, and wanted to see me and some other dude fuck. That basically killed the romance.

Just to drive home the point that Bozack always, always has the best anecdote for any thread.

[arkabee]

ok, so, i can't use the words "orient" or "oriental"?

how about "occidental"?

can i still say "fuck"?

oh, wait, that would offend the Olde Englishe, ande Wee Woun't Wante Thatte.

[antioch]

To jump in on the "Oriental" thing: I think it's definitely not as strongly offensive as many of the words for people of African heritage out there, but it's associated with an era of lack of tolerance; "Oriental" is associated with beliefs about "the mysterious Orient," right out of any terrible film noir movie you might care to name. I suspect it's more akin to terms like "colored" that are not so much deeply intrinsically offensive as it is representative of a more insensitive time.

I thought about starting to play Legend of 5 Rings. But the website is all, "the Game of Oriental Adventures." I also remember it containing phonoetically accurate place and character names. In the end my most important guide is whether I could talk about something confidentally with a friend or aquantance of a certain nationality. The answer, in Lo5R's case, was no.

[theinevitable]

antioch-- if I'm understanding you correctly, that's always been my guide. If you wouldn't say it in front of a person of that nationality, why say it?

Of course, my friends attack me as being ruthlessly PC. I didnt' realize politicians were big fans of screaming at their friends when they make racist jokes.

Also, did you know that ruthlessly comes from Ruth, a bible lady? She was somehow anti-ruthless. she was ruthful. I forget what specifically she did, but it sure was ruthey.

[Ben-San]

I thought about starting to play Legend of 5 Rings. But the website is all, "the Game of Oriental Adventures." I also remember it containing phonoetically accurate place and character names. In the end my most important guide is whether I could talk about something confidentally with a friend or aquantance of a certain nationality. The answer, in Lo5R's case, was no.

L5R is The Game Of What-Fanboys-Think-Feudal-Japan-Was-Like-Plus-Some-Maybe-Korea-Or-China-al Fantasy.

Not to dis the game too hard, as the RPG is nonetheless a load of fun and their methodology for the CCG metaplot is intriguing even if I can't follow the thing at all. Anyway, about half the hardcore players I've known of it were one kind of East Asian or another, so I figure it is a game the playing of which will not innately offend all Asians.

[LCB]

Put me down for Closer hate. All these critics blubbering about how the film is a piercing insight into the human condition or the relations between the genders or this modern world of ours...and it's four thinly drawn, incredibly obnoxious characters engaging in boring games of sexual one-upmanship and awful dialogue. The whole film is just quivering and wobbling from the strain of the actors and scripter and director trying too hard and failing miserably. And again, Portman is supposed to be playing a cold-eyed, mindgaming stripper yet once again she comes off as a chirpy little twerp. But even she pales in comparison that Julia Roberts in yet another "LOOK I CAN ACT REALLY LOOK I'M MORE THAN JUST ANOTHER PRETTY FACE HONEST PLEASE BELIEVE ME" role.

[arkabee]

my mom and dad rented the movie closer, they (or mom at least) are big fans of Julia Roberts.

they did not enjoy the movie, i think she said they stopped watching it.

they did not approve of the language, amongst other things.

[CortJstr]

my mom and dad rented the movie closer, they (or mom at least) are big fans of Julia Roberts.

they did not enjoy the movie, i think she said they stopped watching it.

they did not approve of the language, amongst other things.

They had probably chosen the french audio from the DVD menu by mistake. Had they been listening in english I bet the language would've sounded much better.

[side_show]

Closer comes from a long history of excellent plays interpreted into terrible films... Actually, I haven't seen the film version, but the play was beautiful, and I know just by it's content and presentation that it will not, and should not have been, translated into film.

When it comes to Orientalisms, I took a whole bloody university course on the subject.  In the end, I don't think anyone would call you a hood-wearing racist if you called someone Oriental, but some would think you sort of ig'nant.  It's just a broad sweep to refer to so many different an varied cultures under a single stereotyped catogorical name. Then again, the local Chines cultural centre puts on a presentation every year that they call the Mysteries of the Orient, so I don't know...  In the end I think that Orientalisms are a lot like Westernisms - broad asumptions - some inaccurate, some not - that typify how one culture views the other from one or two steps removed.

[aparrish]

It's okay to say "oriental" but only if you're describing the Top Ramen flavor.