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[AlohaDawg]

very holy jesus, american drinking is all crazy
it's pretty plain simple over here: off-licences sell alcohol of every kind to take away, pubs sell alcohol of every kind to drink in. both stop serving at 11.
you get late bars, and clubs, but there's nowhere to buy a 4-pack or anything after 11. which is gash.

Here they can't sell between midnight and 6am and can't serve after 1:59 (to prevent bars from staying open an extra hour for Daylight Saving). Oh, and a certain percentage of business (I think it's like 20%) must be food to keep their license.

Some places (I think Louisiana is one) have different licenses and some places stay open til 6 am. I was in a bar once until sunrise drinking heavily and it was all legal.

When I was in college, every year there were big parties that first weekend in November - we'd all be in the bar. They call last call at 1:30 and at 2:00 am the lights go up. Then this guy comes out and turns the big clock back, the music starts up again, the lights go back down, that bar gets going again. That was fun.

[miles]

Some places (I think Louisiana is one) have different licenses and some places stay open til 6 am. I was in a bar once until sunrise drinking heavily and it was all legal.

In Utah, it's illegal to get drunk at a bar, as I understand.  Bars have been fined for serving to drunk patrons, and the penalties are stiff enough that some bars have had to close down.  In addition to the fine a bar will have to shut down for some time, losing a lot of money.  There are actually state officials here that patronize bars undercover to look for such violations as serving to people who are drunk.  Also, you have to buy a membership or be a member's guest to go to a bar.  You can't go anywhere and just order a beer.  You either have to buy a membership at a "Private Club for Members" or order food with a beer or drink.  It's crazy here.

[Nabubrush]

I think most places have laws where a person who is drunk can't be served. The membership thing, though, that always cracked me up. I went to Provo for a conference and I had to physically be off of the campus to smoke a cigarette. There were to large candy stores in the student union building, though. Them folks love their candy. In the interest of full disclosure, I should say that 99+% of my family is Mormon.

[CortJstr]

In Virginia the police have started going into bars around 1:30 and arresting people for being drunk in public. Which of course surprised a number of people who didn't realize that the inside of a bar was considered public.

[Bozack]

I'm not sure when bars around here close; I was in one with some folk until around 3, when they did last call; however, when the bar "closed," they just closed the door and told everyone they could start smoking.
Dang, that Utah stuff is nuts. I'm glad I live in a place where the police attitude towards drinking, etc., is basically, "Hey, as long as you're not shooting anybody."
Except for the smoking ban, but that was more of Dept. of Health.

[andalucia]

Except for the smoking ban, but that was more of Dept. of Health.

Oh man, I can't believe that New York has that, when drunken smoking is so lovely, and being able to get away with smoking pot at shows is pretty great.  Good thing Montreal has that wannabe-European complete acceptance of smoking.

[Bozack]

Oh man, I can't believe that New York has that, when drunken smoking is so lovely, and being able to get away with smoking pot at shows is pretty great.  Good thing Montreal has that wannabe-European complete acceptance of smoking.

I'm not a smoker, other than the ol' hookah, so I wouldn't really know. Smoking pot at shows is pretty cool (BONNARROOOOO OHHH FIVEEE). but I'm actually pretty cool with not smelling like smoke for a day after, as it is in Kentucky, where cartons of cigarettes are basically 25¢.

[Bobby Isosceles]

In Virginia the police have started going into bars around 1:30 and arresting people for being drunk in public. Which of course surprised a number of people who didn't realize that the inside of a bar was considered public.

What alternate universe NoVa are you living in, Jstr? I've seen people stupid drunk in Clarendon as a matter of practice.

[slink]

I have to say, I dig the idea of a place where people aren't allowed to even get drunk in public. But then I keep spending time in Newcastle, which is renowned for it's drunken assholes wandering the streets problem. And, they're making all the bars there 24 hours... Saaaaweet.
As far as the whole public smoking thing (what with Ireland having it's ban on smoking in bars now, and much of the UK wanting to follow suit) I am unsure. I know it's not good and everything, but it is mostly when I am having a drink that I really crave a smoke. That said, I've just quit again, literally today. It's more of a habit than that clawing at the throat 'I have to smoke' feeling though now.
I definitely agree that it's nice to be able to pass off pot as a cigarette at gigs and whatnot. Then again, I think the stuff I get now is a little too pungent for me to attempt it now. Depends on the venue really. I guess at the end of the day I consider smoking in public much of a let-people-do-what-they-want thing. But then again if I'm in a quitted phase, I tend to feel a little differently.

[CortJstr]

In Virginia the police have started going into bars around 1:30 and arresting people for being drunk in public. Which of course surprised a number of people who didn't realize that the inside of a bar was considered public.

What alternate universe NoVa are you living in, Jstr? I've seen people stupid drunk in Clarendon as a matter of practice.

It was mainly in Fairfax. Actually it might only have been in Fairfax. I just remember reading about it in the Post and a bunch of people at work were talking about it after it was on the news.

[Nabubrush]

That said, I've just quit again, literally today. It's more of a habit than that clawing at the throat 'I have to smoke' feeling though now.

Seven and one half months! I'm rolling!

[slink]

That said, I've just quit again, literally today. It's more of a habit than that clawing at the throat 'I have to smoke' feeling though now.

Seven and one half months! I'm rolling!

So. Um. Let's all just ignore that I said I had quit today. I found change down the back of the couch. And the clawing came back.
I will for sure try and quit soon though. I am kinda sick of smoking tobacco only 'cause I smoke weed. I need to get back to only smoking bongs so I don't use any tobacco and then it will be easy.
But kudos for the months! I managed to do so successfully twice for about that length of time, and it feels really good in the end just to not smoke.

[Carlos del Vaca]

Pennsylvania has a no-serving-drunks rule.  Specifically, it's illegal to serve someone who is "visibly intoxicated."  So if someone holds their liquor really well, you're off the hook.  We only exercised that specific right if someone was clearly out of control, and it was probably just as well to get them out of the bar.

"You know what, Bob?  You're FLAGGED!  Have a good night!"  Bob became apologetic mighty quickly.  Ah, memories.