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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2005, 05:05:13 pm »

I can remember having walked out of the theatre for three movies:
1.  You've Got Mail
2.  The Passion of the Christ
3.  Whatever Emir Kusturica's last movie was.  I was a little surprised at seeing something so bad I had to leave even a pretentious indie cinema.

Other movies that make me angry to think about are the Lord of the Rings movies and the Star Wars prequels.  And, I mean, I loathe the Lord of the Rings books, and I'm entirely indifferent to the original Star Wars trilogy, so it's not any kind of purist thing, just the thing where I think they are hell of lame.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2005, 05:40:52 pm »

Hmm.

There is a very funny Roger Ebert book I recommend called "I Hated. Hated, Hated this Movie". It's a collection his funniest bad reviews of horrible movies and it's pretty funny.

I personally hated:

Last Man Standing (almost walked out on that one)
The Cook the Thief his Wife and her Lover (Egad)
Fantastic Four had massive suckitude IMHO

I'm finding that I have a limited amount of patience for Bruce Willis in general and by the end of a movie where he is the central character I want him dead whether he's the good guy or not.

If Choop doesn't mind, I'd like to posit the converse question: What movie/s did you expect to suck so bad and they were actually pretty good?

My vote: Love Actually. I figured it for a chick film but it was well written and paced and came together nicely (happy ending for Colin notwithstanding - that made no sense but was good fantasy fodder)
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2005, 06:11:34 pm »

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Meet the Parents.


Pretty much everything Ben Stiller has ever been in for me. Except the Royal Tennebaums. That's the only exception. I hate Ben Stiller.
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2005, 06:16:09 pm »

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Meet the Parents.

Pretty much everything Ben Stiller has ever been in for me. Except the Royal Tennebaums. That's the only exception. I hate Ben Stiller.

I thought Dodgeball was funny. Especially the alternate ending.

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If Choop doesn't mind, I'd like to posit the converse question: What movie/s did you expect to suck so bad and they were actually pretty good?

Fight Club. Based on the commercials I thought it was going to be like Bloodsport

Oh, and Mallrats. I thought it would suck because they profiled it on Entertainment Tonight and that show only discusses shit.
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2005, 06:31:10 pm »

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Speaking of Bill Murray - Lost in Translation.  And I was positive I could at least tolerate any movie set in Japan.


I take it, then, that you actually saw it?  If so I respect that opinion (although I disagree with it).  I had a conversation about Lost in Translation with someone who hated it sight unseen, because she thought it was all "old guy scores with a hot young chick."  And it's not like that.
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2005, 06:33:41 pm »

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I take it, then, that you actually saw it?  If so I respect that opinion (although I disagree with it).  I had a conversation about Lost in Translation with someone who hated it sight unseen, because she thought it was all "old guy scores with a hot young chick."  And it's not like that.


not that there's anything wrong what that.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2005, 07:26:56 pm »

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I had a conversation about Lost in Translation with someone who hated it sight unseen, because she thought it was all "old guy scores with a hot young chick."  And it's not like that.


Yeah cause if you're looking for that I have some vids on my computer you can have... er.. wait.


I had the same reaction to Fight Club but for different reasons: in such as I hate Chuck P.'s writing.  Form-u-lay-ick!  

Turns out his writing makes a better movie than a book, who knew?
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2005, 07:29:24 pm »

Lost in Translation was made by Sophia Coppola, who is neither male nor middle-aged.

LiT and Sideways are, however, two of the best films I've seen in the past couple years.  

Here's another couple that I hated, when reminded of bad Bruce Willis movies:

The Whole Ten Yards
Unbreakable (I liked it better when it was called "The Dead Zone")

Movies that I thought I'd hate but really enjoyed?

Love, Actually would be on that list.  I actually bought it without ever having heard of it before at Walmart because it was dirt cheap ($5.50 bin) and because two pretty hot MILFs were swooning over it and I figured it was something I could watch with the gf at the time who pretty much liked nothing but romantic comedies.

Fight Club looked really awful in the trailers, but once I saw that it was directed by Fincher I went opening night.  I'm pretty much on board for anything the guy does.  He has never made a bad movie (Alien3 and Panic Room weren't masterpieces, but they were entertaining enough).

Kingpin was one that really surprised me. I was dragged to that one, but figured Bill Murray was in it, so at least it would have that.  I've never laughed so much at a movie, at least not since A giraffe Called Wanda.  Kingpin is still the funniest movie I've seen since then, and that's going on ten years now that I haven't seen a funnier movie.

Dumb & Dumber is a pretty accurate description of the progression of that film's arc.

I know that even fanboys like to rag on the Star Wars prequel trilogy, but I enjoyed it, and was happy that each one got better.  I think Attack of the Clones was probably one of my most-replayed DVDs.  I can still pretty much put it on anytime and enjoy it just as much as I would the original trilogy.  

Actually, in order I think I liked:

Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars
Revenge of the Sith
Attack of the Clones
Return of the Jedi
The Phantom Menace

But I still saw Phantom Menace at the theatre four times.  And I was excited to have *some/any* Star Wars on DVD when it came out.

And yes, I fast-forward through the parts I don't like and that has kept the movie much fonder in my memory.

Oh, Alien Resurrection is one of my most hated films.  I was in a perpetual state of WTF? while watching that one at the movies.

1941 was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and especially disappointing considering the talent involved.

The new Dukes of Hazzard movie was beyond awful.

I just saw "The Faculty" for the first time last night and couldn't believe it was made by the same people who made Desperado and Sin City, and Scream.  WTF?  Awful!

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie probably killed H2G2 for more people than it helped convert to reading the books.  Who would've thought it would make the BBC series look better by comparison?

Gus Van Sant's latest, Last Days, was probably the dullest film I've ever seen.  

A Love Song for Bobby Long couldn't even be saved by Scarlett Johanssen's luscious lips.

National Treasure was probably the dumbest movie of 2004.

Zoolander was a waste of time (okay, there were one or two funny parts, but c'mon, three funny jokes does not a film make).

Saw wanted so very badly to be Se7en.

The Skeleton Key was full of hoodoo.

I've kept a list of all of the movies I've seen since 2003, and have rated them for myself.  Those are all of the one and one-and-a-half star movies I've seen lately.

I was actually surprised by how well The Village held up.  Even the "surprise," which was pretty obvious, was handled so well that it didn't seem like the POINT of the film was the surprise, unlike The Sixth Sense which holds up well only on two viewings - one where you don't know the ending and then once again once you do.  After that you start to notice things you're not supposed to notice, like how shallow and weak it is.

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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2005, 07:31:25 pm »

i still think of SwimFan as the worst movie i've ever seen, if only because i have a bad memory, and keep forgetting the others.  It made me uncomfortable to watch, and the only reason i didn't stop watching it was because of who i was watching it with.

Alone in the Dark made me angry, because i thought it could, maybe, have been, while not good, at the very least a fun/scary scifi/fantasy horror type thing.  it made me so angry, in fact, that for SEVERAL DAYS i talked, at length, about how much i did not like the movie and that i had HALF A MIND to go and DEMAND my money back from the rental agency.  obviously i did not demand my money back, and now that i'm no longer angry, i don't even have half a mind anymore.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2005, 08:10:41 pm »

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Lost in Translation was made by Sophia Coppola, who is neither male nor middle-aged.


Yes, I know.  Mysterious.  I can only assume it is due to having been raised by wolves - er, moviemakers - instead of having had a normal life.

Carlos  - yes, I did see it.  Every infuriating minute.  I'm sure I can also name movies that I didn't see because I hated the mere idea (um, maybe most movies, actually, being not a big fan of movies in the first place) but unfortunately this one I actually saw.

Is Unbreakable the Bruce Willis movie where he's some kind of weird superhero? I, um, liked that one.  Now that I look back on it,  I am surprised.  But I am a sucker for that concept - take something mythical (werewolves, zombies, etc) and see what it would be like if one really lived in your neighborhood today.
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2005, 08:19:10 pm »

I saw this one Jarmusch movie that made me forever hate all Jarmusch movies (Mystery Train was tolerable) and I keep trying to give Jarmusch more chances, ( I want to see Broken Flowers) but everything I've seen of his was overly cinematic (if that makes sense) and heavy handed with the symbology.

I really hated Ghost Dog and I really really hated the one with the people that drive from NY to Cleveland and then to Florida, mostly in black and white, with 20 minutes of dialog and 90 minutes of stuff going by as they drive. (had to look it up. Stranger Than Paradise.)

I'm sure it was very artisitic and no doubt some critics peed a little they thought it was so good but I thought it pretty much sucked. Still looking forward to Broken Flowers though.
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2005, 08:44:56 pm »

Frank confession: I still have an irrational hatred of Se7en. I guess it's well-made for what it is, but... it's both stupid and reprehensible. I have sort of resigned myself to being the only person in the universe who feels this way, though.

As for surprisingly-good movies: I recall Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back being a pleasant surprise. So was National Treasure, in the sense that it was surprisingly enjoyable despite being an aggressively stupid film. I watched it with friends and enjoyed myself, and that's more than I can say for, say, The Bicycle Thief.

On the "outright schlock" front, the SO has almost managed to convince me that Manos: Hands of Fate is underrated. But you know what was so horrible that it wasn't even funny? Night of the Lepus. Not even enjoyable as schlock. Just wretched.
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2005, 09:24:53 pm »

The third school of thought: movies you hated, movies you thought you would hate but loved, and movies SO BAD you love them.

I nominate "They Live" starring Rowdy Roddy Piper, Killer Klowns from Outer Space, Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead, and Count Yorga the Vampire (Vampire + Hippies = hilarity)

Also I love Silly Black Exploitation films as a genre. Come Back Charleston Blue, Cotton Comes to Harlem, and any of the the three Cosby/Poitier movies are always good.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2005, 09:30:13 pm »

I will freely admit to a sick fondness for Hell Comes to Frogtown. It's just... too silly to hate. The sequel is also good for this.
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2005, 09:37:13 pm »

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I saw this one Jarmusch movie that made me forever hate all Jarmusch movies (Mystery Train was tolerable) and I keep trying to give Jarmusch more chances, ( I want to see Broken Flowers) but everything I've seen of his was overly cinematic (if that makes sense) and heavy handed with the symbology.

I really hated Ghost Dog and I really really hated the one with the people that drive from NY to Cleveland and then to Florida, mostly in black and white, with 20 minutes of dialog and 90 minutes of stuff going by as they drive. (had to look it up. Stranger Than Paradise.)

I'm sure it was very artisitic and no doubt some critics peed a little they thought it was so good but I thought it pretty much sucked. Still looking forward to Broken Flowers though.



Ooh!  Ooh! Watch Down By Law!  This is very important.  Tom Waits and Roberto Begnini escaping prison into the bayou?  You had better believe antics ensue.  I've not seen many of Jarmusch's films (just this and Coffee and Cigarettes, I think), but I like this one a lot.  It is cinematic- shot in black and white and whatnot, but not, I found, intrusively.  It's still a fun movie to watch, you do not have to just Appreciate it.
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