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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2006, 01:31:55 am »

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My girlfriend told me that if I ever said "that tortilla thing" again, she would... I don't remember. She just said that it was a particularly bizarre and ineffective metaphor. Everyone else I have ever said this to has responded similarly. But I thought it made sense, so...

yes. I enjoy the beatles a lot. I can go back to them time and time again. But, any band gets old after over-saturation. I can understand how constant hyping of a band can make them seem horribly overrated.

Anyway, my top 15 or so, in some very vague pretense of reasonable order are:

Nirvana/ The Beatles
Velvet Underground
Fugazi
Pixies
My Bloody Valentine
The Replacements
Led Zeppelin
Sonic Youth
The Feelies
The Doors
The Stooges
Weezer
Built to Spill
Flaming Lips
and The Talk (but I don't know if they count. they're a local band, and I love them because I've met them many times, their label is owned by my girlfriend's old neighbor, I've seen them, etc. Their first cd was recorded the day I got my first guitar.)

Of course, this is probably weighted based on what I've listened to lately.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2006, 01:33:28 am »

I guess it's only fair to list mine since I came down so hard on the apparently sacred and ineffible Beatles.  I will try and compile something later.

If it makes you feel better inevitable, your metaphor was fine for me too, but I don't really want to be your boyfriend.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2006, 02:09:59 am »

BUT WE WERE SO GOOD TOGETHER!
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2006, 04:18:03 am »

I still ain't see no list of 47.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2006, 04:43:27 am »

I'd say Bowie at least belongs somewhere in the 10-20 zone. I am also suprised that no one has mentioned Dylan yet, you'd think he'd be a top contender.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2006, 05:05:59 am »

Oh he is.  Dylan's up there.  I'm just not posting my list because I'm a revovering list addict.  I was busted for the production and distribution of lists a few years back.  But the temptation...it's so...strong....

1. Built to S...

I really can't start again.  It's a problem.  I'm serious when I say this.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2006, 05:17:24 am »

I agree with The Inevitable  tortilla metaphor.  I also agree with Wombats assessment to a certain degree.  I stopped listening to Led Zeppelin for a long, long, long time because I had listened to them so much back in the day that I couldn't imagine squeezing any further enjoyment out of yet another listen of Dazed and Confused.  I didn't really pick them back up until the totally fuck*ng godhead How the West Was Won came out a couple of years ago.  Absense does indeed make the heart grow fonder.  I can now listen to those old songs again and they sound totally fresh.  Just the other day my i-pod chose When the Levee Breaks and I was just listening in awe at the genius of Jimmy Page.  All piling layer upon layer of guitar sounds, each one unique, yet totally in sync with each other.  All of the parts being played with bombast, yet crisp and precise.  And i'm marveling at what a completely natural talent Robert Plant is.  He is truely one of the greatest singers ever.  It's a crying shame his instrument no longer works as it should.  And i'm also being totally blow away by John Bonham.  Does this guy create a groove so fat you could drive a semi through?  (Yes, he does).  And then there's Ol' John Paul Jones quietly (or more precisely very loudly) standing his ground playing his melodic bass lines that counterpoint Jimmy's guitar perfectly and anchor and beats being layed down by Bonham.  So yeah, even the best tasting tortilla can go stale if you eat it too often.  But then again, there are some groups that I just never get tired of and The Beatles are one of those.

Other Tortillas that never go stale for me...

Paul Simon
Paul McCartney
Queen
AC/DC
Neil Young
The Who
Jimi Hendrix
Roy Orbison
Steely Dan
Todd Rundgren

But if you asked who is my favorite band right now i'd probably say Wilco.

~Paul


 
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2006, 05:22:22 am »

pmcd9 (I want to say your name is paul for some reason?)-- which Wilco record would you suggest to listen to first? I've heard that they are a band which is good to listen to.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2006, 05:31:09 am »

They are indeed a good band to listen to.  I recommend you listen to Being There first, but then move immediately to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, then a Ghost is Born.  Then go back and do Summerteeth and AM.  After building an appreciation for those things, listen to Kicking Television, and make sure you're not wearing your good socks, because they'll be BLOWN OFF.

Actually, listen in whatever order you want - YHF is my favorite, followed by Summerteeth and then a Ghost is Born.  Kicking Television I'm not going to include, since it's a live compilation, but it is AWESOME.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2006, 05:44:14 am »

pmcd9 (I want to say your name is paul for some reason?)-- which Wilco record would you suggest to listen to first? I've heard that they are a band which is good to listen to.

The first Wilco record I got into was Yankee Hotel Foxtrot which I played almost daily for months.  It's a beautiful record.  When A Ghost is Born was released I was prepared for a disapointment because there was no way it would be as good as YHF right?  Wrong, it was better.  Many disagree with this opinion, but I just love this record.  It reminds me very much of Ram era Paul McCartney if Paul McCartney had a broken heart.  He (Jeff Tweedy) is Paul McCartney with a broken heart.  Simply gorgeous.  More recently I have gotten more into the earlier albums.  Being There is a great album.  So If you like beautiful pop music tinged in sadness then Wilco is the band for you.  I would reccomend A Ghost is Born, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, or Being There very highly.  Their other two albums A.M., and Summerteeth are also very good so you aren't going to go wrong no matter which one you choose.

~Paul
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2006, 05:47:21 am »

Bach.
Beyond that, it's too hard. There is simply too much damn good music.
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Re: Ranking Music (or, Do the Beatles Suck?)
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2006, 07:28:54 pm »

i'm deeply confused by the lack of appreciation for Clutch that this board shows.

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Re: Ranking Music (The Beatles Are better than Jesus)
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2006, 09:41:16 pm »

Nice ninja edit on the topic, Paul.
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Re: Ranking Music (The Beatles Are better than Jesus)
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2006, 09:53:59 pm »

Nice ninja edit on the topic, Paul.

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Re: Ranking Music (The Beatles Are better than Jesus)
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2006, 10:37:32 pm »

Limmo, you that old?

This reminds me of this argument with a self-described "Zeppologist" who, faced with the argument that Led Zeppelin may not be the greatest Rock and Roll band of All Time would end his arguments with "I know that is your opinion, but it's WRONG".

No, I was born in 1967 - representin' for Gen X, yo.   

Actually, if I were being honest, I'd have put Zeppelin first.  I know the Beatles are better than Led Zeppelin, but I'll never love them the same way.  There's a passage in Chuck Klosterman's Killing Yourself To Live that sums it up better than I can, but of course I don't have the book handy when I need it. 

Don't be hatin' on your Zeppologist friend just because he was RIGHT.

I didn't get burnt on the Beatles because I didn't listen to them until I was 20 and working in a CD store.  The Beatles CDs were just being released at the time in batches, and I started working there the week Help, Rubber Soul and Revolver came out.  And we were required to play only those three CDs for a full week - the owner threatened us with "big trouble" if he came in and heard anything else playing.  ( I think "big trouble" would have amounted to extreme glaring. )  I had resisted ever listening to the Beatles up to that point, thinking it was either mop-top crap or music for cartoons about flying blue gloves.  So I reluctantly put in Revolver and about an hour later had a new favorite band.

It was the best possible exposure, because from that point on, a "new" Beatles CD came out every three months.  So I had all of June and July to fully absorb Sgt. Pepper's, and then in August it was time for Magical Mystery Tour.  Etc, etc. 

The Beatles just wrote more great songs than anyone else ever.  Someone called them "the greatest sustained artistic miracle of modern times" and I agree.   Though I'm still not crazy about the mop-top stuff. 

Ooh! Someone just posted Zeppelin's first-ever recorded show from 1968 at dimeadozen.org!  Gotta go!
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