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March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« on: March 10, 2006, 09:45:01 am »
So Beef still lives.  Well, everyone saw it coming. 

This one doesn't really do much for me humour-wise, but it has much needed exposition, I guess.  Still, that kick in the last panel is pretty dang cool.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2006, 09:55:14 am »
Certain things I loved.

The startled jump Ray makes when the lid opens.

The buddy-buddy handshake.

Fourth row, last panel: I just really like this one. It's like Beef has now accomplished a dream he has had for so long. Very emotional.

The mean mouth on Ray in the second-to-last panel. And man, he doesn't even wait for Rudy to react to the trash talk, just cold kicks the dude in the head HARD.

Did Beef have an extra pair of goggles?
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2006, 10:26:10 am »
Called it!  Woo!

I'm not sure how I feel about Beef's self-sacrificing though.  This may be that I just really want him to win, but I don't think I buy it.

I mean, yes, Ray's BOC and so he can claim being the heir to the throne, but Beef's the dude who memorized the interviews, plotted for years, and actually cares about this thing.  Ray on the other hand just realized his lineage a couple weeks ago and joined on a lark.

I mean, would you make maps and break into credit records if you just wanted to see the Fight from the inside?  I would just operate the crane.

Actually, I think that would be a pretty sweet job.  I would do that anyday.

I think Beef is still plotting.  Just like Ray's Hat of Menace, Beef still has his Goggles of Secret Motivations.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2006, 10:32:47 am by Cynicar »
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2006, 11:46:01 am »
Slap, dap.

So cool!
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2006, 12:17:08 pm »
Quote from: Cynicar on March 10, 2006, 10:26:10 am
Called it!  Woo!

I'm not sure how I feel about Beef's self-sacrificing though.  This may be that I just really want him to win, but I don't think I buy it.

I mean, yes, Ray's BOC and so he can claim being the heir to the throne, but Beef's the dude who memorized the interviews, plotted for years, and actually cares about this thing.  Ray on the other hand just realized his lineage a couple weeks ago and joined on a lark.

I think I totally still agree with you. Beef's still in his element and is probably still playing Ray. At least this strip basically cleared everything up? And the takedown of Rudy is great, with the no-waiting-for-reaction...Dammit, only 3 posts and already everything I meant to say was said. I need to wake up earlier.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2006, 12:22:21 pm »
Roast beef will be all "aren't you forgetting something, ray?" and cold destroy him.

Now that Ray has said he would beat down roast beef, roast beef is OK in beating him down first. once one has broken the pact of friends since small times, the other is no longer bound.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2006, 12:33:02 pm »
But then the question is: if Roast Beef knows everybody's secret weakness, whether juvenile cross-dressing or fiscally lax significant others, what's he going to use to stone cold take down Ray? Birthday cake and booty?
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2006, 12:45:47 pm »
Not much to say here, a lot of open exposition which is really jarring for Achewood.


All these quick summaries and Beef's acceptance just seems;  too easy.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2006, 12:57:40 pm »
That's like comparing a lunatic to a pissed man with goals.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2006, 01:06:25 pm »
Quote from: wombat on March 10, 2006, 12:57:40 pm
That's like comparing a lunatic to a pissed man with goals.

I'm not sure I believe that Beef is going to "stone cold betray" SoRod. He's not that cold a dude in real life. Beef was not the type of kitten to want to BE the champion, just to want to be close to him. That being said, I doubt he just takes it.

So, is that dude dropped, or will Ray have to finish him in the next strip? Or will he get back up after Beef takes out Ray, and win it... ? <DUN DUN DUN>
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2006, 01:16:34 pm »
Damn, Ray has Technique! All flying kick and such as. I don't think it's about the Fight. I'ma guess Beef goes down (most humorously) and Ray wins. I mean, if it's wrong that Ray wins after only beating 3 asses, how would it look for Beef to win, having beaten only one, Son of Stubbs or no? Besides, can anyone here imagine Beef as some kind of asskicking legend? Picture the after celebration--the guy from the Californian going like "So how does it feel to be The Baddest Dude?" and Beef all mumbling into his shorts. Not to mention Ray feeling hugely betrayed and humiliated. They wouldn't be friends anymore after something like that. I don't see it.

Still hoping for something unexpectedly absurd and humorous, but Beef winning isn't in the cards. I'm betting Ray humiliates himself right after he wins.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2006, 01:26:23 pm »
And I just noticed this: Rudy Cava is the only one in the fight besides Ray & Beef (oh, and Sikes) without facial hair.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2006, 01:29:54 pm »
Quote from: sensate on March 10, 2006, 01:16:34 pm
Damn, Ray has Technique! All flying kick and such as. I don't think it's about the Fight. I'ma guess Beef goes down (most humorously) and Ray wins. I mean, if it's wrong that Ray wins after only beating 3 asses, how would it look for Beef to win, having beaten only one, Son of Stubbs or no?

That would cold make you a Judas. There have been a few of those -- in 1981 Hector Trampoliño -- and they are always shunned at the winners' parties.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2006, 01:30:15 pm »
Quote from: sensate on March 10, 2006, 01:26:23 pm
And I just noticed this: Rudy Cava is the only one in the fight besides Ray & Beef (oh, and Sikes) without facial hair.
And Leander.
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Re: March 10, 2006 - The dude so raw he beat down his oldest friend
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2006, 01:44:41 pm »
The buddy-buddy pound shared in panels 5 and 6.

Best subtle touch in the strip in a long-ass time.

Rest was alright too.
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