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[littlefallsmets]

I bet Emeril really really hates the REAL Emeril.

I would suspect that he respects Emeril's cooking and likes that type of food... but dislikes "real" Emeril's empty showmanship.

Probably detests the "Emeril Live" show, with its lame music and guests and such, but likes "The Essence of Emeril" a lot more than he'd care to admit.

[AlohaDawg]

I would suspect that he respects Emeril's cooking and likes that type of food... but dislikes "real" Emeril's empty showmanship.

Probably detests the "Emeril Live" show, with its lame music and guests and such, but likes "The Essence of Emeril" a lot more than he'd care to admit.

I doubt this too. The premise is that a hot dish cools faster, but the rate of cooling must go down as the hot dish cools. So it stands to reason that it would spend the most time in a lukewarm state - the slowest cooling according to the premise - and therefore, the blooming of bacteria would still occur. The only difference between leaving it on the countertop to cool and putting it in the icebox or a sinkfull of ice or whatever is the ability of the fridge to actively push energy at the problem by kicking on the compressor when the inside of the fridge gets too warm - but by then you're risking all of the food getting a bacterial bloom.

All the arguments on either side notwithstanding, humans lived for thousands of years before refrigerators and some people believe that the utter paranoia with which we protect ourselves from inocuous germs by routinely and sometimes needlessly disnifecting will lead to the evolution of ubiquitous unkillable pathogens.

Now there is something to be afraid of.

[Lister]

The concept of the emergency party is awesome.  "Get me a copy of "Shout" and a bag of chips STAT!" is how I imagine things going down.

As for the hot things in the refrigerator discussion:

Taking soup off the boil and putting that pot directly in the refrigerator is bad.  It will heat up the whole thing and probably do something nasty to the plastic shelves.

Letting a huge hot pot slowly attain room temperature before you put it in the refrigerator is bad too, but only for the stuff in the pot.

What I do is put the pot in the sink, run cold water around it, then throw some ice in the water and stir the pot until it stops feeling hot to the touch.  Then it goes in the fridge, and neither my cheese nor my shelves melt.  Plus I don't run out of patience.

That's it, I'm making chili.  Mmmmmmm.

[Drastic Action]

Yeah, that would be fine.  And I'd imagine that anything left out to cool could gather bacteria.  So.....  you make a turkey for thanksgiving, how long is there turkey sitting around?  Howsabout a block of cheese at a party?  You know, these are things I really don't concern myself with, so I'm not going to lose sleep at night because my pot of curry, filled with crazy spices, is going to start growing awesome bacteria.  Especially since I'm going to boil the ##### off it when I go to eat it next.

[AlohaDawg]

You'll be fine for the most part if you don't eat anything that is obviously spoiled.

Seriously, for all of human history prior to about 70 years ago, no fridges and humanity survived.

[AugustWest]

What I do is put the pot in the sink, run cold water around it, then throw some ice in the water and stir the pot until it stops feeling hot to the touch.  Then it goes in the fridge, and neither my cheese nor my shelves melt.  Plus I don't run out of patience.

That's what I do too, only without the ice.  Still seems to cool down very quickly.

[Hobot]

All the arguments on either side notwithstanding, humans lived for thousands of years before refrigerators and some people believe that the utter paranoia with which we protect ourselves from inocuous germs by routinely and sometimes needlessly disnifecting will lead to the evolution of ubiquitous unkillable pathogens.

Now there is something to be afraid of.

Our immune system has memory cells that prevent us from getting re-infected with something our B cells (which secrete antibodies) or T cells (lymphocytes) have encountered in the past.  If we shield ourselves from common pathogens with antibacterial hand soap and antiviral tissues, we are crippling our immune response by not allowing our B and T cells to react and clone themselves into the aforementioned memory cells.  This, in effect, encourages spontaneous mutation of the pathogens into a form that cannot be killed with antibacterial and antiviral products, and the result is viruses and bacteria that can do a lot more damage than can the common cold.

[AlohaDawg]

Our immune system has memory cells that prevent us from getting re-infected with something our B cells (which secrete antibodies) or T cells (lymphocytes) have encountered in the past.  If we shield ourselves from common pathogens with antibacterial hand soap and antiviral tissues, we are crippling our immune response by not allowing our B and T cells to react and clone themselves into the aforementioned memory cells.  This, in effect, encourages spontaneous mutation of the pathogens into a form that cannot be killed with antibacterial and antiviral products, and the result is viruses and bacteria that can do a lot more damage than can the common cold.

Well, crippling is a strong term and so far, no massive community outbreaks of deadly ubiquitous pathogens have happened (plenty in hospitals, which disinfect constantly though, and what does THAT tell you) but, yeah, too damn much use of disinfectants makes it worse and not better.

Last night, a guy died of massive overwhelming infection 3 days after falling into gross poopy water in Honolulu. Only in his 30s.

[Omegatron]

All the arguments on either side notwithstanding, humans lived for thousands of years before refrigerators and some people believe that the utter paranoia with which we protect ourselves from inocuous germs by blah blah blah

You've never had food poisoning, have you?

Both ends, man.  At the same time.

[jough]

You know how flu shots work, right?  They give you the flu, but just a little bit of it, and then your body produces the antibodies but never really gets sick.

I think my not worrying about letting food sit out, and living in a house with 3 2 a cats has actually made me healthier.  I haven't gotten a cold in about three years.

[wombat]

I hate to drag a thread back on topic yet again - sorry, a lot of catching up to do lately - but I've just noticed that Phillippe has the oddest hands in the first panel of the last line, like little cloven pig's hooves.  I know he might not have the hands of real otters (like these) and that the more relevant reference would be the fifth picture here, which seem to correspond to other renderings of his appendages.  But where did he get those disturbing little hooves.  Ick.

[Hobot]

I hate to drag a thread back on topic yet again - sorry, a lot of catching up to do lately - but I've just noticed that Phillippe has the oddest hands in the first panel of the last line, like little cloven pig's hooves.  I know he might not have the hands of real otters (like these) and that the more relevant reference would be the fifth picture here, which seem to correspond to other renderings of his appendages.  But where did he get those disturbing little hooves.  Ick.

Ew, you're right!  Also, I noticed that it looks like he is wearing the Walk-Around Butt in panel 6 (or at least that his little stuffed otter bum is unusually well-defined, but that makes me feel like a stuffed otter pedophile, which is not what I'm going for at all).

[robot_god]

Ew, you're right!  Also, I noticed that it looks like he is wearing the Walk-Around Butt in panel 6 (or at least that his little stuffed otter bum is unusually well-defined, but that makes me feel like a stuffed otter pedophile, which is not what I'm going for at all).

There could be many explanations for Philippe's ass.  In the past, he has been known to gain weight sporadically and wear exceptionally baggy #####.




Whuddaya know, it seems that I am more like Philippe than I previously thought.  But they don't get that baggy.

[wombat]

Ew, you're right!  Also, I noticed that it looks like he is wearing the Walk-Around Butt in panel 6 (or at least that his little stuffed otter bum is unusually well-defined, but that makes me feel like a stuffed otter pedophile, which is not what I'm going for at all).

Uh oh, Hobot digs ladies, fellows and otters, people.

[Hobot]

Uh oh, Hobot digs ladies, fellows and otters, people.

And now you know my Terrible Secret.