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Re: Dying
« Reply #345 on: June 29, 2006, 01:27:42 am »

Jough: crispy like fried chicken skin?  Do you have a BBQ?  If so, make beer butt chicken with a nice rub on the skin.  If you are specifically craving crispy + meat this will likely be very satisfying for you.  Even though chicken skin is pretty fatty, in the case of beer butt chicken, at least you're letting a lot of the excess fat drip off, and not putting the meat anywhere near a deep fryer, yet creating the crisp + meaty combo.  I actually had that last night, and it was very nice.  I don't have the achewood cookbook, so I went with my own recipe, but it was lovely.  Also, I bought a set of beer butt chicken stands, which are everywhere this summer.  If you want the recipe, let me know, it's really easy.

As for me, I have having a different quandary:

Pro: In regard to cravings:  I have none.  Seems the medication I started taking four weeks ago makes me totally disinterested in food, which is a drastic 180 from me a month ago, where I would see something or hear vague mention of it, and then I would want it in an obsessive way.  This is a good thing.  I do get hungry, but the hunger is never tied to some specific craving, so making healthy choices has been very easy.  The med's are for getting me into deep sleep, but since they alter my brain chemistry, they have also effected my entire psychology in subtle ways, and I count the loss of cravings as a big bonus.

Con: I have been having horrific night terrors where I awake mid-scream, often having thrown myself out of bed, three times being convinced that someone is looming over the bed, getting ready to strangle me.  In the month that I have been on the med's, this has happened three times, including last night, plus another night terror involving the wall behind our bed crumbling, and me screaming at my SO from the foot of the bed to get up before he's crushed by the collapsing wall.  And I don't just wake with a start, I awake as I hit the floor with my back/tailbone (ouch) having thrown myself out of bed, and always, always screaming at the top of my lungs.  I know that I am actually screaming both because I wake my SO up (who sleeps like the dead) and because my throat is raw and sore the next day.  In my dream state, my eyes are already open when I "awake," so there is a short period where I'm pretty confused and question whether my dream was real or not.  It's been fairly horrific, and I've been drenched in sweat with my heart pounding very time, yet, every night, I've basically calmed myself down and gone back to sleep, though I'm starting to be a bit paranoid about hitting the hay, and had one night after the most vivid of the terrors, where I fought hard against going to sleep in fear I would have the dream again.  My theory of the terrors is that I am in deep sleep with my eyes open, and my dreaming brain imposes the image of someone in the room to me, yet it also recognizes my real surroundings, making for a confused state combining dream with reality, and basically making for some very realistic, and terrifying dreams. 

I'm due back at the doctors for follow-up next week, so I'll discuss it with him.  I'm not too sure what to think - in a way, I wonder if it's possible that since I've gone so long without getting to the stage of deep sleep, that now that I am getting there, my brain is over active in that state either because of the med's or because it's making up for lost time.  Does the brain get "hungry" for dreaming?  Is my brain now dream-binging like a beggar at the feast?  From the quality of rest and energy level I've been experiencing, all I can say is that overall the med's seem to be helping in a very significant way, yet these nightmares are the worst I've ever had in my life.

(edit: but say, some of you thing fear is the road to slimness... But I don't want to be skinny and dead of a heart attack via Freddy Kruger, just alive and fit, via good sleep)
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Re: Dying
« Reply #346 on: June 29, 2006, 01:33:17 am »

Crunchy (although not crispy):  I know no one is going to believe me, but good quality freshly popped popcorn is really good without butter or anything at all added except salt.

To add more non-fat flavor, cayenne or garlic in the salt is also good.
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Re: Dying
« Reply #347 on: June 29, 2006, 01:43:37 am »

Oh, one more thing, I thought of AD briefly when I took the day off today to go to the beach.  When I arrived, to my absolute horror, there was a film crew there shooting the horrible Canadian version of Dawson's Creek at the beach (this is there second season of the shitty, shitty show).  I retreated to the far corner of the only stretch of beach they were not occupying, and occasionally someone yelling "Action" or "Cut" was carried over to me on the wind, but it was otherwise lovely.  I also got to hear one of the locals complain about how the shooting schedule was ruining the community.  I concealed my saggy old bathing suit under a tank top and got some sun and good exercise in the water, which was very nice.
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Re: Dying
« Reply #348 on: June 29, 2006, 01:58:42 am »

To add more non-fat flavor, cayenne or garlic in the salt is also good.

Or curry powder.  Celery salt can be good too.

We get almonds roasted in the shell and crack them open like peanuts.  Good stuff.  You can get them salted or unsalted at Wal-Mart (which is about the only good thing you can get there...)

I agree with Paul.  You have to let yourself have some treats, just in moderation.  If you decide "I'm never going to eat anything bad for me again in my entire life," you're setting yourself up to fail.  I think a better approach is to make permanent changes in your approach to food.  Eat better 90% of the time.  Then eat something you crave every once in a while -- in limited quantities.  Don't beat yourself up over it -- that's counter-productive.

Since about the 1st of April I've been losing roughly a pound a week, with next to no effort.  All I've done is quit drinking, cut back on sweets & snacks and avoid buffets at lunch.  And continued my exercising.

Obviously not everyone can cut out the vast number of calories I was taking in each day in vodka; you may not be able to exercise the way I like to.  But the point is I've changed my routine and my attitude toward food.  I don't feel like I can't have something if I really want it.  I don't have to spend a lot of conscious mental effort on what I should or should not be eating at any given meal, I think this is working for me because I'm confident that over the long run I'm training myself to eat (and burn) a healthy amount of calories in a day.

I don't feel like I'm expressing myself well (which always irritates the fuck out of me anyway...)  I guess what I feel like I've done is work on adjusting my metabolism, attitude toward eating and activity level to a healthier state.  I don't worry about individual meals or lapses, but I might worry about a trend toward overeating or skipped workouts.  Does that make any sense?
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« Reply #349 on: June 29, 2006, 04:40:57 am »

Tonight is my weigh in night.  I am down 4.0 pounds from my last weigh in.  I am down a total of 18 pounds in 4 weeks.

I am trying to get back to virgin weight loss, that is weight I haven't already lost once before.  I began my weight loss quest on my birthday January 14, 2003 where I weighed 417.8 pounds.  I reached my lowest weight of 304.8 pounds on December 12, 2005.  As has been well reported on this board, I have been through a LOT since then.  I finally decided to get my shit together and get back to losing weight.  I rejoined Weight Watchers on May 31, 2006 weighing in at 329.2 pounds, 24.4 pounds heavier than my december 12th. low.  I've lost back 18 of that 24.4 pound backslide.  I currently stand at 311.2 pounds.  I need to lose 6.4 pounds to get back into virgin weight loss.

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Re: Dying
« Reply #350 on: June 29, 2006, 04:45:03 am »

I can attest that letting yourself have something you crave occaisionally is the best.
because it's never as good as you remember it being.

I know this from when I had a really unhealthy habit where I basically only ate Kraft Macaroni and Cheese. Like, there was a big scene where my parents confronted me about it and I cried. It was horrible. Because of my school/play practice/sleep schedule, I was basically eating 1 meal a day. which consisted of macaroni and cheese.
and they threw all of it out. and all I could think about for like 2 weeks was "Krack Macaroni and Cheese." And then one day I had it, and realized that it's really really shitty macaroni. Now I just have it occaisionally when I've had a bad day.
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Re: Dying
« Reply #351 on: June 29, 2006, 12:33:22 pm »

The update-

 week 1. I have successfully cut back to one pack a day and two glasses of whiskey a night, each containing no more than two fingers after the addition of four ice cubes. There have also been two days when no alcohol passed my lips all day.

The drinking is not really the difficult issue here, as I feel no insane compulsion to drink, and have no withdrawl when I don't. The smoking is proving to be tough, but I am finding ways to cut back. My goal is to be completely smoke free by september 1st, which is roughly the 10 year mark of the day I started.


also: Congratulations everyone on your successes. Once I quit smoking, I'll probably have to jump on the weight wagon with you all. small price to pay I suppose.
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Re: Dying
« Reply #352 on: June 29, 2006, 02:25:50 pm »

Good work, Jeepers.  Keep it up.  And kudos to everyone else for their weight loss.

I'm getting ready to go on the Abs Diet, and once I've got the plan in place, I'll say something in this thread.  I'll also be using the webpage that AlohaDawg uses to publicly keep track of my progress.  That way, you guys can mock me furiously when I fuck up.  Which I will.  Often.
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Re: Weigh in Tonight
« Reply #353 on: June 29, 2006, 03:37:16 pm »

Tonight is my weigh in night.  I am down 4.0 pounds from my last weigh in.  I am down a total of 18 pounds in 4 weeks.

I am trying to get back to virgin weight loss, that is weight I haven't already lost once before.  I began my weight loss quest on my birthday January 14, 2003 where I weighed 417.8 pounds.  I reached my lowest weight of 304.8 pounds on December 12, 2005.  As has been well reported on this board, I have been through a LOT since then.  I finally decided to get my shit together and get back to losing weight.  I rejoined Weight Watchers on May 31, 2006 weighing in at 329.2 pounds, 24.4 pounds heavier than my december 12th. low.  I've lost back 18 of that 24.4 pound backslide.  I currently stand at 311.2 pounds.  I need to lose 6.4 pounds to get back into virgin weight loss.

~Paul


 How do you like Weight Watchers? One of my best friends joined when she started toeing the line of "of gravity", and really liked it. I was doing the program along with her to help her out, just not as an official member, and ended up learning a lot myself. What I liked about it was that it seemed not to emphasize "dieting", but rather focused on teaching you what your body actually needed, and teaching you how to eat properly. I liked the program all around, would definitely become a member if I ever noticed my belts getting shorter.
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Re: Weigh in Tonight
« Reply #354 on: June 30, 2006, 06:44:29 pm »

How do you like Weight Watchers? One of my best friends joined when she started toeing the line of "of gravity", and really liked it. I was doing the program along with her to help her out, just not as an official member, and ended up learning a lot myself. What I liked about it was that it seemed not to emphasize "dieting", but rather focused on teaching you what your body actually needed, and teaching you how to eat properly. I liked the program all around, would definitely become a member if I ever noticed my belts getting shorter.

I like WW quite a lot.  You are right, the WW "diet" is basically eating properly.  That is, eat less calories and make better, healtier food choices.  By the same token, they encourage you to not give up the foods you love because you think they are bad for you, only eat less of it, less often.  They strongly emphasise that it's not a diet, but a lifestyle.  I know the WW program chapter and verse, but I continue to attend and pay because I like having a regimented time for the weigh in.  It's like a weekly reckoning.  Also, the weekly meeting where we get encouragement, offer support and exchange ideas about what works really helps me stay focused.  It's also nice to see the other members sucesses, when their weight loss starts showing up on their bodies in a noticable way.  It's a very strong motivator, like a competition.  If they can do it, I can do it too.  Just like this thread, Side Show is a genius to turn this thread into a competition.  Even if there is no monetary pay off, winning, losing the weight, being more healthy, is reward enough.   It also makes you feel good when your friends suceed so it's a total win/win.  You're gonna win J, i'm gonna win, we're all gonna win.

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Re: Dying
« Reply #355 on: June 30, 2006, 08:50:42 pm »

Paul, you are one positive motherfucker.  I am proud to know you.

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Re: Dying
« Reply #356 on: June 30, 2006, 09:23:51 pm »

Down another 2-3 lbs, bitches.   Who is your daddy again?  What is his name?

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Re: Dying
« Reply #357 on: June 30, 2006, 09:49:36 pm »

Jough.  His name is Jough.
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Re: Dying
« Reply #358 on: June 30, 2006, 10:09:09 pm »

Jough.  His name is Jough.

Last night I had a dream where Jough was paying me to write a song for him (don't ask) and it was really easy to write because I made 'Jough' rhyme with everything.

Some rhyming couplet examples:

He's ultra fine, he's super tough
He rules us all, his name is Jough (Juff)

He'll entertain, put on a show,
You won't be bored 'cause he is Jough (Joe)

He sneezes at times, he'll sometimes cough
It shows he's human... his name is Jough (Joff)

He's quite the fellow, he ain't a cock
You'll know this well if you know Jough (Johkh, which I think is the Manx way of pronunciation)

He woos the women, he's skilled in lurv
Who's your daddy? His name is Jough. (Jurv)

(I'm not sucking up to him; would YOU write nasty things about our Dear Leader?) (Plus, all the above is true anyway)
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Re: Dying
« Reply #359 on: June 30, 2006, 10:28:47 pm »

Jough approves.
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