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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2007, 05:41:47 am »

I subscribe to the opinion that all lacrosse players are total douchebags. See: any lacrosse player, ever.

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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2007, 06:52:11 am »

It is my contention that Australian Rules Football is the greatest thing ever.
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2007, 01:36:45 pm »

It is my contention that Australian Rules Football is the greatest thing ever.

I can only assume you mean "greatest sports-related thing ever." Because dude, tits. Also, oral sex.
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2007, 11:29:03 pm »

yea, that.
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2007, 11:31:41 pm »

I can only assume you mean "greatest sports-related thing ever." Because dude, tits. Also, oral sex.

I dunno, man. There have been some marks in Aussie Rules that have almost made me spooge.
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2007, 04:26:23 pm »

This morning on Sports Center, Kirk Herbstreit said that even if South Florida runs the table, he thinks a one-loss LSU or Oklahoma team would be more qualified to play in the national title game.

Man, fuck YOU.  What more can USF do to earn a shot at the title?  If there are teams that you think categorically shouldn't win the national title even if they go unbeaten, why let them in Division I-A at all?  This is why college football is so much bullshit.
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2007, 08:16:10 pm »

College football is so much bullshit.

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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #82 on: October 18, 2007, 04:34:30 am »

So Much!

They still play that shit?
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #83 on: October 18, 2007, 04:43:13 am »

The reason that the NFL works so well and college football does not is that...

Every win count equally. Wins are wins, losses are losses, that is it.

If you have the most wins in your division, you get into the playoffs. If you have the most or second-most wins of a non-division winner into the conference, you get into the playoffs.

You beat Buffalo, you beat Indianapolis, it don't matter. You won one-sixteenth of the season by doing this and it is all that matters.

College basketball defeats this problem in the opposite way by basically letting anyone proven even marginally competent into a giant playoff, so giant that the only teams left to bitch about the arbitrary choices of the last few spots are so meh that no one really cares.

Six major conference winners and the two top "ranked" teams who didn't win their conferences.

Three round playoff. Real easy.

Not perfect but much better and real easy. Enough games are played in a college football season where no one outside of that set would reasonably have an argument toward being the number one team.

At least close enough where it seems tenuously legitimate.

It is so easy that it is stupid.
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #84 on: October 18, 2007, 02:36:11 pm »

This morning I read on some sports blog that "Every week is a playoff!  If you lose any game, your chances of winning the national championship are pretty much gone."

Soooo... how come a 1-loss LSU is a better candidate than a 0-loss South Florida?  Seems a bit contradictory, there.  (Acknowledged, above comment was not posted by Kirk Herbstreit.)
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #85 on: October 18, 2007, 02:59:37 pm »

"Every week is a playoff!" might be the most absurd, disingenuous bullshit I have ever heard from the Internet.

You let me down, Internet.

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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #86 on: October 23, 2007, 06:59:03 am »

This morning I read on some sports blog that "Every week is a playoff!  If you lose any game, your chances of winning the national championship are pretty much gone."

Soooo... how come a 1-loss LSU is a better candidate than a 0-loss South Florida?  Seems a bit contradictory, there.  (Acknowledged, above comment was not posted by Kirk Herbstreit.)

One reason is the small number of games that make up a football season. How do you recover from losing one out of your 12 games? How many schools across the country go undefeated? Can they ALL realistically be better than a 1-loss LSU? How do you decide?

A one loss LSU could be a better candidate than a 0-loss South Florida if that South Florida team ran the table on an extremely weak schedule, and LSU had a measurably tougher schedule AND their loss came to a team that is also winning through a tough schedule.  It's the same reason why a club fighter who beats up all the punch drunk-palookas doesn't automatically get to fight for an WBA title just because he wins a lot. You need quality wins for consideration.

That's why the BCS polling includes a composite of computer rankings. The computers look at the strength of schedule multiple opponents deep. This allows at least some consideration beyond the human factor - realistically, how can coaches watch every game played and analyze them? They can look at stats, but they won't look beyond the front-runners in major conferences, or historically good teams.

I agree with the notion of a playoff through the Bowl Season, culminating in a national championship game between the winners of a bracket populated by the top 16 teams. But no matter how you slice the issue to get to a playoff, you still have to select 16 teams from among hundreds, and someone with a very good team and a very good record will still be left out, guaranteed.
 
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #87 on: October 23, 2007, 05:24:20 pm »

A one loss LSU could be a better candidate than a 0-loss South Florida if that South Florida team ran the table on an extremely weak schedule, and LSU had a measurably tougher schedule AND their loss came to a team that is also winning through a tough schedule.  It's the same reason why a club fighter who beats up all the punch drunk-palookas doesn't automatically get to fight for an WBA title just because he wins a lot. You need quality wins for consideration.


What if you can't get quality wins outside of your conference because nobody will schedule you?  The Boise States and South Floridas of the college football world can't get non-conference games against the traditional powerhouses, because the latters prefer to schedule the likes of Troy State and New Mexico State.
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Re: Kawlidj Futte-bawl
« Reply #88 on: October 23, 2007, 11:43:45 pm »

It seems like the best way to prop yourself up for BCS consideration is to join the Big East.

If you're pretty good, you can beat up on a lot of crap teams but still be able to say that you're just playing out your conference schedule in a BCS conference. If you can hang for a season without losing, you're in the conversation...

While getting to play, like, Syracuses and Connecticuts all year.

It's a pretty rad way of going about matters.
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