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[jay-ell]

Hey, hey, my my.  Rock and roll will never die. 

Just hang your hair down in your eyes and make a million dollars. 

Does anybody remember Todd Snyder (besides me)? 

[theinevitable]

Hey, hey, my my.  Rock and roll will never die. 

Ah!

See, for some reason I wanted to post the lyrics to Keep on Rockin' in the Free World, but I wasn't sure why.

[littlefallsmets]

Sharing my feelings on Dylansteencamp with other internet friends, someone pointed out that there are two kinds of people in the world... Neil Young people and Bob Dylan people and... yeah, she's probably right.

[Doc]

I'll be a Leonard Cohen person if I can restrict myself to listening to people who've covered his stuff.

[Victoria Waterfield]

Sharing my feelings on Dylansteencamp with other internet friends, someone pointed out that there are two kinds of people in the world... Neil Young people and Bob Dylan people and... yeah, she's probably right.

I am both those kinds of people, so, no.

Unless there is some Venn-diagramness going on.

[jay-ell]

I've met and interacted with two of the three that sMets is setting on fire so his opinion on them is pretty much amusing self-conceptions to me.

Amuse me some more, dude, tell me what you think about Willie Nelson!

Story Time! 

[lprkn]

Any country crooner who does a song about gay cowboys is alright in my book.

[wombat]

Sharing my feelings on Dylansteencamp with other internet friends, someone pointed out that there are two kinds of people in the world... Neil Young people and Bob Dylan people and... yeah, she's probably right.

Um, no, at least three... Do we really have to choose between whiny-non-singing-voice pretentious baby boomer political singer-songwriter or the other? Can't one abstain?

[jay-ell]

I will let her know, Ash. 

I knew you had met Some Dudes but I can't keep track of who all.  I was hoping for...I dunno...narrative examples of how nice people can be? 

I have read some such things about Scott Bakula but am sort of curious as to what it's like to hang out with The Coog.  I mean, I think I can imagine it, but you can never tell how much of a person's attitude is just stage presence, you know? 

Just tell me it's exactly like you'd expect, and I'll be happy. 

[jay-ell]

 

[colmore]

Go to Brooklyn.  Transfer from the G train to the L train on a Friday or Saturday night.  those are f u c k i n g hipsters.  Not college radio types.  Not indie rockers.  Not scenesters.  Not art kids.  Not well dressed 24 year olds.  Not party people.  Not cokeheads.  HIPSTERS.  Everything else this side of Berlin is an imitation. 

Hipsterism is way more than music.  Lots of those kids don't give a shit about Animal Collective, Vampire Weekend, or whoever.  It's about projecting an extremely calculated form or privileged-cool.  And cool is about the shittiest concept we ever came up with as a culture.  The whole point of it is to put model-years on everything so no matter what you like, you have to be constantly buying the new version of it.

I was an indie rock teen in the 90s and then went to college in new york in 2001.  2000s capital h-Hipsterism is a weird small little thing, and it's hella obnoxious.  My response to it was to buy the Harry Smith anthology of American folk music and quit going out to live music for 4 years.  This made me sad, and even worse made me realize that rock and roll has not had one single new idea since the 80s.  Lo-fi was the last cutting edge, and Neutral Milk made the last decent Lo-fi record in 1998.  Rock and roll right now is jazz circa oh 1976 or so.  There's still lots of good people doing good work, but innovation has vanished and the audience is going away.  In 10 years it will be nothing but nerds and geezers.  Rock and roll will never die, but it will only live in the same sense that 18th century Venetian waltzes are still alive.  Want to hear rock and roll's death rattle?  Watch Scrubs.

Cool on the other hand is frikkin immortal.  And rock and roll had a lot to do with that.  It took the edge and energy of black underground culture and mainstreamed it, making a boatload of money in the process and turned cyclic media addiction into cultural currency.  Rock and roll is a corpse to be thrown over the railing, but Madison Avenue will keep cool alive until the bombs start falling or the aliens show up or the extinction virus / self-aware-international-banking-computer / or whatever else kills us all.

These days I'm just trying to see as many of the 50s greats as I can before they all die.  I got to meet Bo Diddley a couple years ago, and that was just the coolest thing in my entire life ever.

Hmmm that got depressing.  I need more sleep.

[theinevitable]

Everything else this side of Berlin is an imitation. 

my possibly-best-friend/future roommate who is from Brooklyn says the same thing. He laughs. "These people think they're hipsters? hilarious."

I don't know. There's plenty of music in the world which isn't anything new, and it's still good. I am OK with seeing bands that I enjoy that don't have any new ideas, just new songs.

[littlefallsmets]

cool is about the shittiest concept we ever came up with as a culture.  The whole point of it is to put model-years on everything so no matter what you like, you have to be constantly buying the new version of it.

Want to hear rock and roll's death rattle?  Watch Scrubs.

So much wisdom here.

You are canned and "Scrubs" is terrible and the sky is blue.

[theinevitable]

I hate when I realize that I hate something so much (scrubs, 95% of family guy) and my roommates all love it unconditionally.

[littlefallsmets]

Scrubs is the living breathing oozing horrifying television version of "twee".

"Gosh, aren't we clever? Aren't we so amazingly clever? I mean, wow, we just can't get over ourselves and how clever we are? Oh man, we're meta and it feels so good!"

Oh man, when the revolution goes down, involvement in "Scrubs" is definitely gonna involve a coupla years breakin' rocks and stampin' out license plates.